How the hell do you fight in this game?

[Lunos]

Ok I honestly think this game needs some kind of practice or tutorial on how to do melee combat because after attacking a guy once my guy simply just stops attacking. He literally goes full ♥♥♥♥♥♥. I backstabbed the soldier in the supermarket doing like 90% damage and after that my guy just walks forward like he's trying to move where the soldier is while getting his face wrecked. No matter how many times I click on the white knife symbol on the soldier. I simply don't get it, I have the knife equipped obviously since it has the knife circle symbol. Is he just incapable of straight forward attacking?

The combat in this game in general is probably the most irritating and poorly made aspect with all the bugs. I had another character die in a previous playthough because after killing one guy from hiding I couldn't get back into the closet because of some animation bug (I had to move slightly first then get into the closet again). Having my character die over and over again to circumstances like this make me wish I had a save option to just avoid needlessly stupid deaths.

[xlockeed]

Stealth killing is your number one go to. As for fighting another when they are aware it is pretty dicey. Civilian verse a soldier that is trained in hand to hand combat means you are going to have a bad time. Now if your guy is trained in combat then you should have a better time. Shotgun is a good tool for close combat, while a knife, shovel, hatchet or crowbar in a stealth location are key. You also have to factor in if the target is armored or not.

Super market one can play out better if Ramon takes him down or if your lucky and a shovel hit makes him fall down and plea for his life. Remember most the survivors want nothing to do with the war. So this means if they are put in a spot to kill another they will not just automatically follow through. Thus the weird controls when fighting an aware target. Just imagine a scared shovel wielding civilian up against a fully armored soldier holding a gun. Fight or flight runs through ones mind and thus the hesitation. I personally like how it forces you to keep on your target if you fail to one hit them.

Edit - It's always a good practice to shut doors behind you and jump into a stealth spot. If they see you hide you will be shot. Try and plan out a route then execute it. The click and hide does happen but that's a result from left and right mouse clicking that confuses the action. It's best to click a few times on stealth location to fully move.

[EN16M471C]

Originally posted by Todoroki 肉は大好き:

The combat in this game in general is probably the most irritating and poorly made aspect with all the bugs. I had another character die in a previous playthough because after killing one guy from hiding I couldn't get back into the closet because of some animation bug (I had to move slightly first then get into the closet again). Having my character die over and over again to circumstances like this make me wish I had a save option to just avoid needlessly stupid deaths.

Someone posted here on forums a little trick regarding that. Switch quickly from combat mode to scavange (combat again), so you can hide again. However I never tried it myself.

But yeah combat is a bit clunky until you grasp it. I would say that along "stealth" kills from shadow places, it's also important to learn enemie routes. Once you learn them it should be easy to pick them one by one. Another "trick" you could use, if you find yourself in danger is luring enemies to climb up ladders. You just wait them on top and shoot them.

I would also say avoid "open" melee combat (including kills from behind) with all characters except Roman. It's really more like "turn based" system involving too much "RNG" with others who are not so crafty with melee combat.

[Bad Whippet]

The combat is the only thing wrong with this otherwise-excellent game. It's pretty atrocious. Your person won't respond half the time (won't swing the axe or fails to fire a shot at all, or sometimes doesn't run away when you tell them to - game over for that person). It's frustrating and can render some locations out of bounds in the later game because you'll be entering a boxing ring with your hands tied behind your back. Stealth is your best option, and come out of hiding with an axe if you're lucky enough for an enemy to walk past your hiding place.