Raids

[Razter]

So I just loaded this game back up after quite a long time. I remember from playing before that, although you would get raided sometimes, it wasn't that frequent except maybe during a crime wave.

However that seems to have changed.

Day1 - Doesnt count, cant be raided.
Day2 - Raided
Day3 - Raided
Day4 - Quiet
Day5 - Raided
Day6 - Quiet
Day7 - Raided
Day8 - Raided AND someone died.

WTF? Was there a change to this mechanic? This is nuts. Especially when you're just trying to get started at the beginning of the game.

Seriously not fun.

Oh and just to test, I restarted the first game after turn 7 to see if I was just having bad luck. But the same thing happened again.

And on a side note...

I did a quick couple days with the Marko story..
I had a kid come by asking to stay with me. Sergei or something. So I said yes.
The kid immediately starts bawling after he comes in. I talk to him which basically does nothing.
The kid goes up to an empty room and just sits there and cries. I cant do antyhign else.
I go out and scavenge, I come back, and the kid is gone "and probably won't be back"?

Once again...wtf? This kid comes by asking for help, stays for about 10 hours, then runs away?

[Mrs. Boogie]

Well first off, if you're getting raided and dying you might want to think of boarding the place up and installing a reinforced door (tier 3 of the workshop) and make some knives and leave them with your people. I play every day and although they do raid sometimes, they don't raid all that much basically and I have the DLC and make sure my game is updated so I really don't know if you're just being a little bit dramatic or whether there really is a glitch with the game that I haven't seen or heard of on here.

To be blunt, if you're dying in raids you're doing something wrong.

Also, a lot of people have problems with the kids staying. Seems to me no matter what you do they run out on you in a day so there's no point in building anything for them or wasting your resources on them.

Hope that helps.

[MarQan]

So far I haven't seen anyone who had The Little Ones DLC AND the kid ran away without a reason. If oyu don't have the newest DLC: kids appearing is either a bug itself (and the fact that they run away) or is a teaser for the DLC.

As tritonneptunus said it helps a lot to leave at least 1 weapon at home: a gun, a Knife, or a Hatchet (in order of usefulness).

It also matters which survivor was your Guard (Anton and Cveta are terrible), his/her crises if there was any.
I don't know if raid frequency was changed, but in some Scenarios you just get more. In some of them you get bombarded by them early on.
In Marko-Solo I got raided about 2/3rd of the time before someone joined.

[Razter]

Originally posted by tritonenneptunus:

Well first off, if you're getting raided and dying you might want to think of boarding the place up and installing a reinforced door (tier 3 of the workshop) and make some knives and leave them with your people. I play every day and although they do raid sometimes, they don't raid all that much basically and I have the DLC and make sure my game is updated so I really don't know if you're just being a little bit dramatic or whether there really is a glitch with the game that I haven't seen or heard of on here.

To be blunt, if you're dying in raids you're doing something wrong.

Also, a lot of people have problems with the kids staying. Seems to me no matter what you do they run out on you in a day so there's no point in building anything for them or wasting your resources on them.

Hope that helps.

This isn't my first time playing this. I know all about securing the building.

But do please enlighten me on how you can have the whole building boarded up and have the reinforced door in 7 days.

I posted exactly what days I got raided...and it's way too much. That was the point.

Plus it didn't happen in just one game. When starting a new game, the raids still hit just as frequently.

Given how hard it is to find food, it's crushing to keep getting raided. Sure you can fend a few off but eventually some get through. When they do get through they hit your food supply (usually taking 3-4 food each time).

So in both instances, my game was over in 7 or 8 days since all my food was pillaged.

[Mrs. Boogie]

I have the whole place boarded up and secured in 7 days? It's easy, just spend a lot of your time upgrading the shop, sir.

Try to have all holes fixed within the first 3 days (only build one bed and rest someone during the daytime then alternate) then try to have the shop upgraded by the 4th, build the reinforced door by the 5th.

Also, it's not that hard to find food either, and if you trade with the people in the garage and the villa AND with Franko it's even easier. Just invest in making moonshine and instead of healing minor sickness and wounds, let them rest two days.. and then you can sell the bandages and meds to franko or the other people which gets you a LOT of stuff. Also build a few traps so you have a constant supply of food. It's a strategy game for a reason.

I don't know anything about the "solo" but I'm guessing it's the same concept.

The game is not that hard, I think you are over complicating things.

[mintycupcake]

I get the impression that you are playing the story where you start with just Marko? If so, that is the hardest of the pre-made stories and could be why you are getting raided so much.

[kuyssohh]

Basically,

Day 1 - Shovel and Crowbar (upgrade to workshop 2)
Day 1 NIGHT - Prioritize Wood and Components Scavenge.
Day 2 - All holes should be boarded by now.

If you can, get the reinforced door asap and always leave a weapon at the shelter when scavenging.

[Daemonjax]

Yeah, a raid every other day on average during non-crime wave period is normal now.

Get used to it. The fastest I ever got the reinforced door up was day 5.

You have to plan as if you'll be raided every night. The reinforced door is critical during a crime wave. Otherwise, it's not neccesary. You need either:

1 really good guard (just Boris and Roman fit this bill)
2 normal guards
1 normal + 2 bad guards (most women and elderly)

Some characters are better/worse guards than others. The game doesn't provide that information, you have to look it up on the wiki here:

http://this-war-of-mine.wikia.com/wiki/Guard#Guarding

For the most part it makes sense (sorta): women (and the elderly) make for poor guards. Except for Zlata and Arica -- they break that rule, just because.

And everyone needs weapons (shovels/crowbars are fine... there's no defensive bonus for firearms whatsoever -- it's just a binary check: everyone has weapons or not).

If you're doing the solo Marko scenario, then you don't guard at all (Marko cannot successfully guard solo during a crimewave no matter what), you just leave it undefended and lock up all your gear or take it with you.

Use the radio to let you know if a crime wave is coming.

If you do it right, no one ever gets injured using just shovels/crowbars/axes.

Sell firearms and ammo to franko. You don't need them (except for dealing with the snipers quickly) since anyone can stealth kill and anyone can kill anyone with 2 hits with an axe without getting injured if they get the backstab in first (you don't need Arica or Boris/Roman for this to work). Don't bother making moonshine unless you have bruno -- just sell the sugar. Going to the military base is a waste of time if you're there just to sell moonshine.

Once you learn how to play the game, all this becomes too easy.

[Artuurs|Sick]

Originally posted by Razter:

Originally posted by tritonenneptunus:

Well first off, if you're getting raided and dying you might want to think of boarding the place up and installing a reinforced door (tier 3 of the workshop) and make some knives and leave them with your people. I play every day and although they do raid sometimes, they don't raid all that much basically and I have the DLC and make sure my game is updated so I really don't know if you're just being a little bit dramatic or whether there really is a glitch with the game that I haven't seen or heard of on here.

To be blunt, if you're dying in raids you're doing something wrong.

Also, a lot of people have problems with the kids staying. Seems to me no matter what you do they run out on you in a day so there's no point in building anything for them or wasting your resources on them.

Hope that helps.

This isn't my first time playing this. I know all about securing the building.

But do please enlighten me on how you can have the whole building boarded up and have the reinforced door in 7 days.

I posted exactly what days I got raided...and it's way too much. That was the point.

Plus it didn't happen in just one game. When starting a new game, the raids still hit just as frequently.

Given how hard it is to find food, it's crushing to keep getting raided. Sure you can fend a few off but eventually some get through. When they do get through they hit your food supply (usually taking 3-4 food each time).

So in both instances, my game was over in 7 or 8 days since all my food was pillaged.

Litearly what i just went trough for my very first time today playing the game and had to review the game negatively for it, its just not fun.

[B✪✪tsy]

Raiding does not seem balanced at all. I have secured the whole house (boarding + door) and I still get raided every other day and I waste 10 bullets on it every time. I guess I will have to mod this as well to get balanced gameplay.

[galensgranny]

When you first start and go through the piles/cabinets in the house, only take out parts to start making things for your home. Anything left in the piles/cabinets does not get stolen when you get raided. When you get the stove built and have some food, cook as much as you can at one time- it doesn''t go bad and cooked food on the stove never gets stolen. If you play the game starting with Marko only, take things you don't want stolen with you when you go out at night. For the first few days, only get parts and a small amount of food. After someone else moves in, then you have someone to guard.

[B✪✪tsy]

After someone else moves in? I never have that happend in my playthroughs. I start with 4 people and at day 80 it's still 4 people.

And I have disabled the raiding as I could not find a way to reduce the ammo usage when guarding other than taking all the ammo with me when scavenging.

[galensgranny]

Originally posted by B00tsy:

After someone else moves in? I never have that happend in my playthroughs. I start with 4 people and at day 80 it's still 4 people.

And I have disabled the raiding as I could not find a way to reduce the ammo usage when guarding other than taking all the ammo with me when scavenging.

I was commenting on if you start with Marko only, just him. When you start with only one or two people, after several days another person comes asking to move in.