The Last Broadcast all endings

[[SF]Lone_Walker]

Can someone tell me what happens in all 6 endings ?
Mine Malik died and i run away on a boat with Esma and her son

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ok thats 2 then with this : Malik died and his sons continuing the broadcasting work.

[Zyryanoff]

Originally posted by gamerusagi:

ok thats 2 then with this : Malik died and his sons continuing the broadcasting work.

Actually, "his SON and wife"

[Joba]

The "Heir"-ending is what I had aswell. I would assume it counts as an ending, if Esma dies on one of her scavenging-runs, which would put an end to Malik aswell due to him not being able to support himself?

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

The two main endings + achievments seem to be for

1. Malik gets killed by the army, and his son repairs his broadcast-system and becomes his heir.
2. Malik leaves his family cause his wife lied to him, and becomes a member of the rebells.You try to apologize to him via radio via broadcast, but he gives a s*

Thare are some more random endings, with sailing away, diying, a.s.o..

[Sami Nordlund]

Originally posted by Schrute_Farms_B&B:

The two main endings + achievments seem to be for

1. Malik gets killed by the army, and his son repairs his broadcast-system and becomes his heir.
2. Malik leaves his family cause his wife lied to him, and becomes a member of the rebells.You try to apologize to him via radio via broadcast, but he gives a s*

Thare are some more random endings, with sailing away, diying, a.s.o..

I assume #2 unlocks Remorse? What about Malic on duty and Roll-up master?

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

Originally posted by Sami Nordlund:

Originally posted by Schrute_Farms_B&B:

The two main endings + achievments seem to be for

1. Malik gets killed by the army, and his son repairs his broadcast-system and becomes his heir.
2. Malik leaves his family cause his wife lied to him, and becomes a member of the rebells.You try to apologize to him via radio via broadcast, but he gives a s*

Thare are some more random endings, with sailing away, diying, a.s.o..

I assume #2 unlocks Remorse? What about Malic on duty and Roll-up master?

Yes, indeed.

Malik on duty -> Just make sure to use your broadcast system every day and use the mic to broadcast every news

Roll-up-Master -> Craft 100 cigarettes. Its quite easy in the scenario. Workshop for cigarettes is already build and make sure to craft the cheaper ones.

[Sami Nordlund]

@Schrute_Farms_B&B Thank you. :-)

[Zyryanoff]

Ep.2 sucks. And very few see the obvious fact.
I hope devs will choose or have already chosen better scriptwriter for Ep.3, not a BBC employee. Her naive approach can confuse those who understand what kind of values This War of Mine protected before Ep.2. And the division of two sides of the conflict into "good and evil" is clearly not one of them.
The game forces you to take a side in the war - that's good!
But throughout the whole storyline, you will be very clearly repeated "Military did it... military killed civilians... evil military"... But what about rebels? "Rebels helped, rebels are not like military"
I haven't enjoyed that, it spoiled the whole base concept of "surviving civilians who don't want war".
I hoped for "not everything is clear with those responsible for the atrocities" until the final. Suggested for myself that maybe Malik and Ezma have become only a weapon of propaganda of one side. But no.

[LifeWithoutHope]

Honestly, I don't see the repels are better than the military. Malik and his wife risked their lives to seek for information and broadcasted them to warn the repels sometimes, and yet the rebels didn't even care to help them when they were in danger.

I can see that if the military win the war, Malik and his wife can be enlisted at the country's traitors who gave out false information and supported the terrorist (the repels).

If the repels win, Malik and his wife will be used as the heroes of war who risked their lives to help the repels and they will become heroes of the country, so that they can use them to gain support of the civilian, that's called the effect of heroes. It will not be a surprise if their names appear in history books, with some little tweaks so their actions can be more heroic.

Propaganda for its fitnest and finest.

But it showed that in war, we either kill each others or gather as much as advantages for us, both the military and the repels did the same things, the lives of others and such don't matter.

[Zyryanoff]

Originally posted by LifeWithoutHope:

I can see that if the military win the war, Malik and his wife can be enlisted at the country's traitors who gave out false information and supported the terrorist (the repels).

If the rebels win, Malik and his wife will be used as the heroes of war who risked their lives to help the repels and they will become heroes of the country, so that they can use them to gain support of the civilian, that's called the effect of heroes. It will not be a surprise if their names appear in history books, with some little tweaks so their actions can be more heroic.

Propaganda for its fitnest and finest.

You're right. Exactly damn thing that any thinking player should thought about.

Originally posted by LifeWithoutHope:

But it showed that in war, we either kill each others or gather as much as advantages for us, both the military and the repels did the same things, the lives of others and such don't matter.

Bullzeye again, mate!
That's what I am talking about. IN THIS EPISODE the author openly TELLS US that "lives of civilian folk don't matter for MILITARY, they shown as merciless butchers. But the rebel side is nearly sinless, especially if you think about ending 'Malik quits family and joins the rebels'"
It all feels like the scriptwriter supports the rebel side. Sides of the war shown in this episode in a very simplified and hollywood-like manner: "forces of good and forces of evil". I haven't been been surprised if the rebels have had Thor or Captain Pogoren in their frontline. xD
It is less more difficult to make a decision - we choose between save our asses or try to help others/save more civilian lives. But we always have "the bad guys", which simplifies our choosing struggle.
it will be MUCH MORE INTERESTING if rebels were shown as a force that wreaks havoc too. And the UN mission, rebels, radio broadcasts are just a cover for geopolitical fight. Yeah, I have a good taste, I know. ;)

PS Btw I haven't sent help to the guy in "Toys store", because I took it as a decision. His guilt for selling the woman into sexual slavery was pretty obvious to me. I could be wrong, but that was an interesting choice - leave him to die, with a doubt that he could be innocent.

[LifeWithoutHope]

Originally posted by Zyryanoff:

It all feels like the scriptwriter supports the rebel side. Sides of the war shown in this episode in a very simplified and hollywood-like manner: "forces of good and forces of evil". I haven't been been surprised if the rebels have had Thor or Captain Pogoren in their frontline. xD
It is less more difficult to make a decision - we choose between save our asses or try to help others/save more civilian lives. But we always have "the bad guys", which simplifies our choosing struggle.

it will be MUCH MORE INTERESTING if rebels were shown as a force that wreaks havoc too. And the UN mission, rebels, radio broadcasts are just a cover for geopolitical fight. Yeah, I have a good taste, I know. ;)

The choices, IMO, were pretty weak and it didn't affect much like the ending of the 1st episode. It was like you said, more or less, was used to support the rebels than showing neither the repels nor the military is innocent. However, if the writter was in the war where the game was taken place (real war, wasn't it) and the war was taken over by the repel side, I wasn't really surprised if he/she was taught by the history written by the rebels, which made them support the repels and ignored what the repels did in war. I know, I was the same, though.

History is written by the winner and the loser to cover their crimes.

[Pauca Verba]

Originally posted by Zyryanoff:

Ep.2 sucks. And very few see the obvious fact.
I hope devs will choose or have already chosen better scriptwriter for Ep.3, not a BBC employee.:2018salienbeast2: Her naive approach can confuse those who understand what kind of values This War of Mine protected before Ep.2. And the division of two sides of the conflict into "good and evil" is clearly not one of them.
The game forces you to take a side in the war - that's good!
But throughout the whole storyline, you will be very clearly repeated "Military did it... military killed civilians... evil military"... But what about rebels? "Rebels helped, rebels are not like military"
I haven't enjoyed that, it spoiled the whole base concept of "surviving civilians who don't want war".
I hoped for "not everything is clear with those responsible for the atrocities" until the final. Suggested for myself that maybe Malik and Ezma have become only a weapon of propaganda of one side. But no.

Honestly, on the mission where military bombed watter supplies and there was and instant rebel appearance who took pictures, i thought that if i investigate futher i will discover that it's the rebles who actually bombed civilians so they could take a pictures and report it as a military crime.

Indeed game would become much deeper if you could make both sides of the conflict angry, and instead of "see something happening, tell about it" there would be a hidden facts that could change entire story, like possibility i mentioned above, or, for example, a mission where people offer a shelter and food, but in reality they secretly capturing those who will come seeking for it, so broadcasting it without investigation would help the military instead.


Also, the outcomes of the story seem to be really forced. Knowing that military will eventually come i made several guns, armor, helmet, stockpiled medicine, but... Both Malik and Ezma chose not go give a damn about possible threat, when it was really easy to make at least several deffencive measures, starting from not leaving crippled man alone at the radio (how hard can be carrying him to any nearby house?), and ending on arming him to the teeths, and asking support to protect valuable point like radio station. Because if i was in his place, making a military angry - i would do all of that to make sure that taking down a station won't be easy.

[Zyryanoff]

Originally posted by LifeWithoutHope:

The choices, IMO, were pretty weak and it didn't affect much like the ending of the 1st episode. It was like you said, more or less, was used to support the rebels than showing neither the repels nor the military is innocent.

Agreed.

Originally posted by LifeWithoutHope:

However, if the writter was in the war where the game was taken place (real war, wasn't it) and the war was taken over by the repel side, I wasn't really surprised if he/she was taught by the history written by the rebels, which made them support the repels and ignored what the repels did in war. I know, I was the same, though.
History is written by the winner and the loser to cover their crimes.

Meg Jayanth is former BBC employee and that describes a lot. TWoM conflict based on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo

Originally posted by Pauca Verba:

Honestly, on the mission where military bombed water supplies and there was and instant rebel appearance who took pictures, i thought that if i investigate futher i will discover that it's the rebles who actually bombed civilians so they could take a pictures and report it as a military crime.

I have been very disappointed that history didn't turn in that direction.

Originally posted by Pauca Verba:

Indeed game would become much deeper if you could make both sides of the conflict angry, and instead of "see something happening, tell about it" there would be a hidden facts that could change entire story, like possibility i mentioned above, or, for example, a mission where people offer a shelter and food, but in reality they secretly capturing those who will come seeking for it, so broadcasting it without investigation would help the military instead.

Good to know that there are people who think the same.
When I've read about choices... I expected that we can choose how to present information, in what manner, because this is the most important part of the journalist/presenter work. But you can choose only between truth or lies, which is much more simplified than two truthful interpretations of the same situation (like in The Witcher for example).

Originally posted by Pauca Verba:

Also, the outcomes of the story seem to be really forced. Knowing that military will eventually come i made several guns, armor, helmet, stockpiled medicine, but... Both Malik and Ezma chose not go give a damn about possible threat, when it was really easy to make at least several deffencive measures, starting from not leaving crippled man alone at the radio (how hard can be carrying him to any nearby house?), and ending on arming him to the teeths, and asking support to protect valuable point like radio station. Because if i was in his place, making a military angry - i would do all of that to make sure that taking down a station won't be easy.

Defending the home, IMO, would be too hollywood-like, they are civilians after all.
But I really expected that IF Malik, consciously or not, supported the rebels with his broadcasts (warning about military raid, etc.), without attempt to stay away from the war and being neutral, they would help to save him from the death squad.
So it would be very realistic that choice of side (but at the price of truth) can benefit you with protection, while trying to stay impartial means death for such an influential person in besieged city like Malik.

[Pauca Verba]

I am not saying he would sucseed with deffending his house (but, who knows? i easily took down armed bandits with his wife only, while Malik alone fend off other bandits who came to steal supplies, and now they would work together), but not even trying, just sitting there like a big target, waiting to be slaughtered? That's just stupid. If you have a weapon - use it, attackers are people too, they can be hurt and killed, at least make them pay for the attack. Can't believe he just gives away his life's work without even trying to deffend it.

About journalism, there is kinda genious flash game called "we become what we behold", spent your 5 minutes on it, you won't be disappointed. It pretty much sums up how journalist can twist the truth and manipulate masses with it, if he wants to do that.

[Zyryanoff]

Originally posted by Pauca Verba:

I am not saying he would sucseed with deffending his house (but, who knows? i easily took down armed bandits with his wife only, while Malik alone fend off other bandits who came to steal supplies, and now they would work together), but not even trying, just sitting there like a big target, waiting to be slaughtered? That's just stupid. If you have a weapon - use it, attackers are people too, they can be hurt and killed, at least make them pay for the attack. Can't believe he just gives away his life's work without even trying to deffend it.

It was kinda dramatic effect from theater... "Look! He is principled and ready to die for what he believes in"

Originally posted by Pauca Verba:

About journalism, there is kinda genious flash game called "we become what we behold", spent your 5 minutes on it, you won't be disappointed. It pretty much sums up how journalist can twist the truth and manipulate masses with it, if he wants to do that.

Interesting. Thanks. I will.