Lithoid species suddenly need food

[timofeigel82]

It sometimes happens to me that I can play with my Lithoid species without a food deficit for a while, until a deficit suddenly appears for no apparent reason.

The food display shows that species require food, however the Lithoid species is my only species in the realm. There is also nowhere to be seen on the planets which planet consumes food. I don't build buildings that convert food into energy.

Where does it come from?

Many thanks in advance for possible explanations.

[ScreamCon]

How long can you manage? If you have just one food eating pop you will have problems.

[timofeigel82]

I have 0 food and they need -20.

[timofeigel82]

I dont have any food eating pop. This is the problem.

[Teksura]

Are you at war with anything? If you've taken planets, the people there would like to eat.

[ScreamCon]

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

I have 0 food and they need -20.

-20... did you build one of the the food to energy conversion buildings that lithoid can use

[timofeigel82]

Originally posted by Teksura:

Are you at war with anything? If you've taken planets, the people there would like to eat.

I said, i dont have any other species in my empire! I know only one other species, but they are lithoids too and are rivals. No crossing borders or war. No exchange of population. There is nothing that consume food, but i have a deficite.

Originally posted by ScreamCon:

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

I have 0 food and they need -20.

-20... did you build one of the the food to energy conversion buildings that lithoid can use

I told you, that i never build buildings that convert food into energy.

I explained, that no planet use food for anything. The only clue is in the empire view where you can see the resources and there is the deficit. No other species, no buildings, no trade, no war. Just like that, all of a sudden the deficit came. This often happens before I can even build a colony. I'm exploring 4 or 5 systems, haven't had contact with any other species yet, but then suddenly there's a food shortage.

[Teksura]

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

Originally posted by Teksura:

Are you at war with anything? If you've taken planets, the people there would like to eat.

I said, i dont have any other species in my empire!

That's why I asked about a situation that doesn't have any in your empire. Occupied planets are not in your empire. There is no need for you to be this rude to people. All you had to say was "I only know one other empire, but we're not at war and they're also lithoids."

If it is your intent to be rude to everyone who responds trying to help, don't expect much help.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

There is nothing that consume food, but i have a deficite.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2891865809

What does the food tooltip say in your game?

Also, are you using mods?

[Cinnamoon_dragon]

I had - 20 food bug when I chose Here be dragons origin and the Ether drake fell on my planet to feed

[ScreamCon]

mod?

[HappySack]

It's a known issue that pops continue to consume food after being purged and/or moved from the planet, not sure if it will be fixed anytime soon but the only thing to do is start making food like a pleb or to uncolonize the planet where this happened to "reset" it.

[Big mean bunny]

Amoeba fighters require food and if you have some types of vassal contract it can leech food from you even if you don't consume it.

[timofeigel82]

Originally posted by Tiasmoon:

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

There is nothing that consume food, but i have a deficite.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2891865809

What does the food tooltip say in your game?

Also, are you using mods?

No mods, the food tip say "consumed by population."

Originally posted by Teksura:

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

I said, i dont have any other species in my empire!

That's why I asked about a situation that doesn't have any in your empire. Occupied planets are not in your empire. There is no need for you to be this rude to people. All you had to say was "I only know one other empire, but we're not at war and they're also lithoids."

If it is your intent to be rude to everyone who responds trying to help, don't expect much help.

Reading is a skill that people could use, it they cant use it it is not my fault. I told the situation in the first post.

Originally posted by HappySack:

It's a known issue that pops continue to consume food after being purged and/or moved from the planet, not sure if it will be fixed anytime soon but the only thing to do is start making food like a pleb or to uncolonize the planet where this happened to "reset" it.

What pop should need food? I never had pops that need food. But i think it is a bug, a big bug. How i told, in some games i have no colonie, but then suddenly i have a food deficite with lithoid species that need no food.

[HappySack]

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

What pop should need food? I never had pops that need food. But i think it is a bug, a big bug. How i told, in some games i have no colonie, but then suddenly i have a food deficite with lithoid species that need no food.

I found this reddit post from 6 months ago that explains it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/utcryh/somehow_im_losing_food_as_a_machine_intelligence/

The phantom, ghost, invisible pops, etc are normal organic pops that formerly existed on a planet and disappeared somehow but their food upkeep doesn't update to be removed along with the pop so the owner inherits it by colonizing the planet they were on.

I'm not sure if that console command in the link fixes it but decolonizing the planet that causes it like I said before is one way to fix it.

[timofeigel82]

Originally posted by Teksura:

Originally posted by timofeigel82:

I said, i dont have any other species in my empire!

That's why I asked about a situation that doesn't have any in your empire. Occupied planets are not in your empire. There is no need for you to be this rude to people. All you had to say was "I only know one other empire, but we're not at war and they're also lithoids."

If it is your intent to be rude to everyone who responds trying to help, don't expect much help.

I`m sorry. Thanks for trying to help.