Ending A not working? (Resolved)

[MekaDovah]

Having some trouble getting Ending A to trigger. I've done everything I can remember and look up to get it.

-Only confirmed Laura or Ann dying. I go out of my way to make sure I never see the other one die.
-Got put in the cage in the shed.
-Freed the crow and did not use them to escape Scissorman.
-Took the elevator to floor 3.

Result, however, always seems to be Ending B as the surviving friend never appears.

Not sure what I'm missing or if its a glitch. I have ending S, so I know I'm not messing up anything regarding making sure only seeing Laura or Ann die and not both.

EDIT: Seems like my first attempt had an odd fluke to it. Managed to get it finally, even though I did nothing different. Thanks everyone who helped anyway.

[Salty Juniper]

Did you try following this guide?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3358700917

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Salty Juniper:

Did you try following this guide?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3358700917

It should be possible to get it with Ann at the Clocktower at the end, which requires her to not be confirmed dead earlier. and the wine bit also sounds suspect since there should be no RNG element that locks you out of an ending if it doesn't appear. Some recent comments on the guide also suggest the wine bit is either incorrect, or not relevant as getting in the cage is what matters, not how you get there.

The rest of the guide doesn't indicate anything I didn't already try, so I still don't know what I'm missing.

[Salty Juniper]

I can confirm that I did follow the guide exactly as it was and got ending A. However, I agree that drinking the wine in the kitchen seems odd, and I'm sure it counts if you also just drink the drugged wine the normal way.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Salty Juniper:

I can confirm that I did follow the guide exactly as it was and got ending A. However, I agree that drinking the wine in the kitchen seems odd, and I'm sure it counts if you also just drink the drugged wine the normal way.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's wrong. Got a bad feeling something's wrong with my particular save. It would be a pain to have to start over with a new one.

Thanks for your help anyway.

[Salty Juniper]

At least the game is short, so it's not too bad to try again. I noticed that you said you confirmed Laura or Ann dying. I think it might have to be specifically one of them (I forget which). Skipping the bathroom and seeing the girl get killed next to the staircase worked for me.

[battlecruiser2004]

A ending is just a variation of S, instead of Walter you need to see Simon, that means either take a drink at the kitchen and get knocked out, or go in the phone room and have Mary do it (Must not have seen Walter first or it won't happen) Either way will get you in the shed.

If you got B, that means you saw both Laura and Ann's death. Who dies first doesn't affect the endings, they're both interchangeable.

[Jerry QQ]

You can refer to this guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3364411778

The difference between S and A is that you saw your father's body in the secret room (ending S) or Simon Barros in the cell (ending A)

Only one of these two events will happen, so you can't go to the secret room in the storage room in the West Wing first to see your father's corpse.

The safest way is to go to the phone room and see Ms. Mary. She will let you drink the drink. After you are unconscious, you will be sent to the cell. You have to give Simon the ham, and then Lotte will come to save you. If If you see your father's body first, Simon will not appear in the cell. Simon's absence means that you will not see ending A, but Lotte will still come to save you (if you have not obtained the green key yet).

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by battlecruiser2004:

A ending is just a variation of S, instead of Walter you need to see Simon, that means either take a drink at the kitchen and get knocked out, or go in the phone room and have Mary do it (Must not have seen Walter first or it won't happen) Either way will get you in the shed.

If you got B, that means you saw both Laura and Ann's death. Who dies first doesn't affect the endings, they're both interchangeable.

Originally posted by Jerry QQ:

You can refer to this guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3364411778

The difference between S and A is that you saw your father's corpse (Ending S) or Simon Barros in the cell (Ending A)

Only one of these two events will happen, so you can't go to the secret room in the storage room in the West Wing first to see your father's corpse.

The safest way is to go to the phone room and see Ms. Mary. She will let you drink the drink. After you are unconscious, you have to give Simon the ham.
Then Lotte will come to save you. If you see your father's corpse first, Simon will not appear in the cell. Simon's absence means you will not see ending A.

As I already explained, I've done everything you've said and guides all mention.

First attempt I avoided the bathroom and armor, thus never saw Laura die. She did not appear at the end. Second attempt I went to the shower first and never looked out the window, so I never saw Ann die, but she failed to appear as well..

Again, I use the same methods to get ending S. It's A that's failing to trigger. I know exactly how to get into the cage with Simon and do it every time.. It's failed twice so far.

I've also gotten all the endings before on older versions of the game. It's this one specifically where I cannot get ending A.

[Jerry QQ]

So, do you need to refer to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-mC4OCoFNA&t=1761s
See 29:21 seconds

The most critical part of Ending A is to talk to Simon. As long as you talk to Simon, the ending cannot be S, the highest is A.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Jerry QQ:

The most critical part of Ending A is to talk to Simon. As long as you talk to Simon, the ending cannot be S, the highest is A.

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

-Got put in the cage in the shed.

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

Again, I use the same methods to get ending S. It's A that's failing to trigger. I know exactly how to get into the cage with Simon and do it every time.. It's failed twice so far.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Salty Juniper:

At least the game is short, so it's not too bad to try again. I noticed that you said you confirmed Laura or Ann dying. I think it might have to be specifically one of them (I forget which). Skipping the bathroom and seeing the girl get killed next to the staircase worked for me.

It should not, because in other versions of the game, I have gotten ending A with either one of them. It shouldn't matter. The problem is neither of them are appearing at the end.

[Jerry QQ]

Then, you can try to follow the above video from beginning to end to see if it will help you have good luck.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Jerry QQ:

Then, you can try to follow the above video from beginning to end to see if it will help you have good luck.

Hm. Well I see one bit at the end where the issue on my last run might be. A useful bit of information. I'll give it a try.

[Salty Juniper]

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

in other versions of the game, I have gotten ending A

Wait, are you playing Rewind mode or the classic mode? Rewind changes a few things up. Ending requirements might be one of them.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Salty Juniper:

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

in other versions of the game, I have gotten ending A

Wait, are you playing Rewind mode or the classic mode? Rewind changes a few things up. Ending requirements might be one of them.

Rewind mode, which has changed nothing about any other ending so I don't see why A would be an exception.