GTA 5 will be the last true GTA game in the series.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

I'm not sure how many of you are aware of the changes taking place at Rockstar. Sure, to many of us it's old news but it's still worth mentioning for those who may still be unaware of what's going on over there. Basically Dan Houser and a few other core high-ups and game designers at Rockstar left the company. Houser has been a creative lead in the series since GTA2. so this isn't just some irrelevant guy who works there. He is essentially the soul of GTA as we know it.

Now here's the worst thing plaguing GTA. Forbes recently reported that Rockstar has changed their office culture and will no longer be offending people with the jokes in their games. It seems like Rockstar is going to neuter themselves and cave to political correctness like every other game developer has been forced or pressured into doing lately. In a game about killing,robbing, dealing drugs, etc, Rockstar is worried about a joke being offensive lol.

The writing is on the wall. Rockstar has bowed to external pressure and have purged their ranks and are reconstructing Rockstar and GTA to align with the principles of political correctness which runs contrary to what GTA has been about since day one. The SJWs are making your games now. I always thought Rockstar had enough money to avoid ever having to cave to external pressures, but apparently the communists have found a way to get their way with them too. It's almost as if we have CEOs injecting their brand of politics into our games or something. AAA titles are too popular and culturally influential these days to avoid being politicized and turned into propaganda and GTA is no exception. Mark my words, GTA 6 will mark the end of GTA as we know it. Be prepared for cyberpunk levels of wokeness. This is how they brainwash people. They pump it into our media and kids grow up thinking it's all just normal because it's all they've ever known.

[Nora]

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[D e m i]

Oh the irony....a game that was always about killing people, drugs, and theft, is now worried about not ''offending people with the jokes''
The sad part about this is we are never going to get a Bully sequel or Red dead redemption 3.

[pzhda'tan]

A change is a welcome one. GTA V has been a burning dumpster anyway.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by ＡｎａＬｏｒｄ:

Oh the irony....a game that was always about killing people, drugs, and theft, is now worried about not ''offending people with the jokes''
The sad part about this is we are never going to get a Bully sequel or Red dead redemption 3.

We'll definitely never see another Bully game from them lol, unless you're fighting the bully that is.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by pzhda'tan:

A change is a welcome one. GTA V has been a burning dumpster anyway.

Yeah maybe a change as in scenery, improvements to gameplay, etc is welcome as it's an attempt at progression. Censoring the creative process is definitely not progress though. That's regression.

[Mach]

Interesting post. I think the exit of Houser and his core staff is probably the biggest harbinger.

Regarding the changes to the game due to evolving staff and societal norms, I think its probably true. It's seemed that Rockstar has increasingly become a lone wolf in the gaming world with its more brazen, if not facetious rebuke to today's PC culture with the game's humor and lack of sensitivity. I do think it will be sad to see if Rockstar truly loses sight of this sort of free-will, don't care culture that Rockstar has long fostered and in my opinion, most accurately characterizes the personality of the game.

With all that said, while you are likely correct in your assertion that GTA 6 will be a departure from the longtime creative direction and culture of the series, I still think the roots of what makes the series great will be retained. And on that note, don't think it will be enough to break the game for me and I look forward to its release. I also think you're going a bit too far in calling them communists, and it sort of makes you sound like a far righty.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by Machiavelli:

Interesting post. I think the exit of Houser and his core staff is probably the biggest harbinger.

Regarding the changes to the game due to evolving staff and societal norms, I think its probably true. It's seemed that Rockstar has increasingly become a lone wolf in the gaming world in its more brazen, if not facetious rebuke to today's PC culture with the game's humor and lack of sensitivity. I do think it will be sad to see if Rockstar truly loses sight of this sort of free-will, don't care culture that Rockstar has long fostered and in my opinion, most accurately characterizes the culture of the game.

With all that said, while you are likely correct in your assertion that GTA 6 will be a departure from the longtime creative direction and culture of the series, I still think the roots of what makes the series great will be retained. And on that note, don't think it will be enough to break the game for me and I look forward to its release. I also think you're going a bit too far in calling them communists, and it sort of makes you sound like a far righty.

Well we basically both agree with eachother for the most part with the exception of one thing. I don't think they'll retain what made their games great but I do think they'll retain what made their games good, if you know what I mean. It's still going to be a good game that'll make them a ton of money, but it's going to be a watered down GTA from what we know it to be.

As for being far-right, I guess the farther the left moves left, the farther away the right is by defacto. Yesterday's centrist is today's right-winger.

[Mach]

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

Originally posted by Machiavelli:

Interesting post. I think the exit of Houser and his core staff is probably the biggest harbinger.

Regarding the changes to the game due to evolving staff and societal norms, I think its probably true. It's seemed that Rockstar has increasingly become a lone wolf in the gaming world in its more brazen, if not facetious rebuke to today's PC culture with the game's humor and lack of sensitivity. I do think it will be sad to see if Rockstar truly loses sight of this sort of free-will, don't care culture that Rockstar has long fostered and in my opinion, most accurately characterizes the culture of the game.

With all that said, while you are likely correct in your assertion that GTA 6 will be a departure from the longtime creative direction and culture of the series, I still think the roots of what makes the series great will be retained. And on that note, don't think it will be enough to break the game for me and I look forward to its release. I also think you're going a bit too far in calling them communists, and it sort of makes you sound like a far righty.

Well we basically both agree with eachother for the most part with the exception of one thing. I don't think they'll retain what made their games great but I do think they'll retain what made their games good, if you know what I mean. It's still going to be a good game that'll make them a ton of money, but it's going to be a watered down GTA from what we know it to be.

As for being far-right, I guess the farther the left moves left, the farther away the right is by defacto. Yesterday's centrist is today's right-winger.

Meh, beliefs consistent with the far right and left have basically been the same since the 20th century.

Far right and nationalist sympathizers have been calling liberals "communists" since the 50s. Look up McCarthyism.

[Sarumoon]

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

I'm not sure how many of you are aware of the changes taking place at Rockstar. Sure, to many of us it's old news but it's still worth mentioning for those who may still be unaware of what's going on over there. Basically Dan Houser and a few other core high-ups and game designers at Rockstar left the company. Houser has been a creative lead in the series since GTA2. so this isn't just some irrelevant guy who works there. He is essentially the soul of GTA as we know it.

Now here's the worst thing plaguing GTA. Forbes recently reported that Rockstar has changed their office culture and will no longer be offending people with the jokes in their games. It seems like Rockstar is going to neuter themselves and cave to political correctness like every other game developer has been forced or pressured into doing lately. In a game about killing,robbing, dealing drugs, etc, Rockstar is worried about a joke being offensive lol.

The writing is on the wall. Rockstar has bowed to external pressure and have purged their ranks and are reconstructing Rockstar and GTA to align with the principles of political correctness which runs contrary to what GTA has been about since day one. The SJWs are making your games now. I always thought Rockstar had enough money to avoid ever having to cave to external pressures, but apparently the communists have found a way to get their way with them too. It's almost as if we have CEOs injecting their brand of politics into our games or something. AAA titles are too popular and culturally influential these days to avoid being politicized and turned into propaganda and GTA is no exception. Mark my words, GTA 6 will mark the end of GTA as we know it. Be prepared for cyberpunk levels of wokeness. This is how they brainwash people. They pump it into our media and kids grow up thinking it's all just normal because it's all they've ever known.

Times change.

Always have, always will. Change is the one true constant.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by Sarumoon:

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

I'm not sure how many of you are aware of the changes taking place at Rockstar. Sure, to many of us it's old news but it's still worth mentioning for those who may still be unaware of what's going on over there. Basically Dan Houser and a few other core high-ups and game designers at Rockstar left the company. Houser has been a creative lead in the series since GTA2. so this isn't just some irrelevant guy who works there. He is essentially the soul of GTA as we know it.

Now here's the worst thing plaguing GTA. Forbes recently reported that Rockstar has changed their office culture and will no longer be offending people with the jokes in their games. It seems like Rockstar is going to neuter themselves and cave to political correctness like every other game developer has been forced or pressured into doing lately. In a game about killing,robbing, dealing drugs, etc, Rockstar is worried about a joke being offensive lol.

The writing is on the wall. Rockstar has bowed to external pressure and have purged their ranks and are reconstructing Rockstar and GTA to align with the principles of political correctness which runs contrary to what GTA has been about since day one. The SJWs are making your games now. I always thought Rockstar had enough money to avoid ever having to cave to external pressures, but apparently the communists have found a way to get their way with them too. It's almost as if we have CEOs injecting their brand of politics into our games or something. AAA titles are too popular and culturally influential these days to avoid being politicized and turned into propaganda and GTA is no exception. Mark my words, GTA 6 will mark the end of GTA as we know it. Be prepared for cyberpunk levels of wokeness. This is how they brainwash people. They pump it into our media and kids grow up thinking it's all just normal because it's all they've ever known.

Times change.

Always have, always will.

There's change and then there's inorganic change. There's also change for the better and change for the worse. This is inorganic change for the worse and people aren't powerless. At the end of the day we vote with our dollars for what we want.

[Mach]

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

Originally posted by Sarumoon:

Times change.

Always have, always will.

There's change and then there's inorganic change. There's also change for the better and change for the worse. This is inorganic change for the worse and people aren't powerless. At the end of the day we vote with our dollars for what we want.

Do you even know what exactly these changes are yet? I don't. Seems like you have some sort of secret knowledge of this game that hasn't even been released yet. Otherwise you are jumping the gun at this stage.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

Originally posted by Sarumoon:

Times change.

Always have, always will.

There's change and then there's inorganic change. There's also change for the better and change for the worse. This is inorganic change for the worse and people aren't powerless. At the end of the day we vote with our dollars for what we want.

Lol, no secret knowledge here. Simply logically derived conclusions and common sense, combined with a Forbes article who sourced their information directly from Rockstar representatives.

They specifically said they they won't be " punching down" and making offensive jokes towards any marginalized group, which means just about anybody but straight white males, since literally every other demographic is considered a marginalized group. This is fact.

What I'm saying has come directly from Rockstar. I don't understand how you failed to comprehend that seeing as I cited the Forbes article in my post. You must be trolling or something.

[Hunu]

Originally posted by Machiavelli:

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

There's change and then there's inorganic change. There's also change for the better and change for the worse. This is inorganic change for the worse and people aren't powerless. At the end of the day we vote with our dollars for what we want.

Do you even know what exactly these changes are yet? I don't. Seems like you have some sort of secret knowledge of this game that hasn't even been released yet. Otherwise you are jumping the gun at this stage.

Shock, horror, most of the upset I have seen so far is you might be "forced" to play as a woman character in the campaign. That and the removal of a couple of pieces of content from GTA5, not sure what specifically.

Most of the people name dropping the writers and this sort of ♥♥♥♥ probably had no idea who any of these people were till the YouTuber or Facebook group that they get all their opinions from told them what to think.

Isn't it ironic? All this performative grief and pissing into the wind from precisely the kind of people who probably say the word "snowflake" and "woke" a lot. Or what about all the Chads who are too straight to be playing a game where they're staring at a woman's ass, or being upset that a trans NPC (I think that's what happened) was removed from the game?

And don't worry, the fundamentalist Christians will get here soon enough to share their strangely Taliban and Kremlin adjacent politics.

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

They specifically said they they won't be " punching down" and making offensive jokes towards any marginalized group, which means just about anybody but straight white males, since literally every other demographic is considered a marginalized group. This is fact.

Oh, and this "straight white males" are the only valid target argument that really fails to make any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense. Not the first time I've seen this here, and not the last... But definitely the first person to just come out and say what's on their (clearly paranoid) mind.

[Mach]

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

Originally posted by ONE_MAN_CLAN:

There's change and then there's inorganic change. There's also change for the better and change for the worse. This is inorganic change for the worse and people aren't powerless. At the end of the day we vote with our dollars for what we want.

Lol, no secret knowledge here. Simply logically derived conclusions and common sense, combined with a Forbes article who sourced their information directly from Rockstar representatives.

They specifically said they they won't be " punching down" and making offensive jokes towards any marginalized group, which means just about anybody but straight white males, since literally every other demographic is considered a marginalized group. This is fact.

What I'm saying has come directly from Rockstar. I don't understand how you failed to comprehend that seeing as I cited the Forbes article in my post. You must be trolling or something.

GTA has historically been known for making jokes at marginalized groups offense and receiving subsequent backlash. This isn't really anything new or groundbreaking.

Honestly, most of this stuff is just noise. Am I somebody who gets easily offended by a joke? No. But I am going to boycott a game because its company (A business keep in mind) decides to tone down offensive language in a highly sensitive environment? No.

At the end of the day, they are like any other company and their goal is to sell $ as many copies as possible. If the game is ruined to you now bc there will be less offensive jokes, not sure what to say.

[ONE_MAN_CLAN]

Originally posted by Hunu:

Originally posted by Machiavelli:

Do you even know what exactly these changes are yet? I don't. Seems like you have some sort of secret knowledge of this game that hasn't even been released yet. Otherwise you are jumping the gun at this stage.

Shock, horror, most of the upset I have seen so far is you might be "forced" to play as a woman character in the campaign. That and the removal of a couple of pieces of content from GTA5, not sure what specifically.

Most of the people name dropping the writers and this sort of ♥♥♥♥ probably had no idea who any of these people were till the YouTuber or Facebook group that they get all their opinions from told them what to think.

Isn't it ironic? All this performative grief and pissing into the wind from precisely the kind of people who probably say the word "snowflake" and "woke" a lot. Or what about all the Chads who are too straight to be playing a game where they're staring at a woman's ass, or being upset that a trans NPC (I think that's what happened) was removed from the game?

And don't worry, the fundamentalist Christians will get here soon enough to share their strangely Taliban and Kremlin adjacent politics.

So you're clearly trying to drag this discussion into a completely different realm, because there was no mention of anybody being upset over playing as a woman. That seems to be a point that opposition has fabricated to weaken the credibility of the people complaining about the game. You sound like you work for a PR firm for Rockstar or something.

I shouldn't need to reiterate what I said because I was very clear the first time around, but the issue here is that they have purged the people who created this game and are taking it an entirely different direction by imposing self-censorship upon themselves which will act as nothing but a constraint to the creative process. You're basically saying it's a good thing that Rockstar is allowing political correctness to dictate the way they make their games. I don't know why you would want people who don't even play games to dictate how your games are made.

Also, the term snowflake and woke do actually mean something, and if you think there aren't people out there that meet the definition of a snowflake, then that's another logical fallacy of yours. The term snowflake just like any other term has a meaning behind it.

The good thing about gamers is that we tend to be somewhat intelligent, so it's not hard for people to read through these posts and see the holes in your logic and make up their own mind. You're not a very good subversive if that's what you're trying to accomplish right now, so I really hope you don't work for a PR firm because if you do you're really bad at your job.