Cayo Perico Suppressors

[TacoRalf]

Why do we have to steal everything but we buy suppressors? Pavel is always going on about not leaving any threads but isn't buying our suppressors just leaving a massive paper trail? Why can't we store all the stuff we stole on the sub in the first place. It's not like anyone could find us with the sonar deflector anyway.

[Hellsmoke]

It's all retarded to begin with.

1)Explosives are useless.
2)Having to steal a cutting torch every time is ridiculous, nobody will trace a cutting torch that you will take with you.
3)Stealing weapons is stupid, we have a weapon research bunker.
4)Having to steal a vehicle is ridiculous, we have hundreds of them.
5) Bolt cutters are useless.

The whole heist is basically zero effort. I like that you can do it in several different ways, I like the idea. That said the setups make no sense, none of it really does.

[-reno-FR-]

Game design decisions.

That's all you have to know / to say.

All other things are just cerebral masturb.

[kandar]

I wonder if the conversation went something like this.....

Boss, Cayo is done.
Has it went through QA?
We're doing that as we speak, should be ready for release by the end of the week if they don't find any bugs that circumvent the sale of shark cards.

Meanwhile, over at QA....

This is hard af.
Why did they not add suppressors to the weapons setup?
I'm gonna fire off an email and see if we can get this added.

A team meeting is held to discuss the email.

Ok people, you know why we're all here, right?
Yeah...boss...sure...
So how many of you idiots are going to take responsibility for not ADDING SUPPRESSORS TO A F-ING STEALTH MISSION SETUP!!!

Looks over at the program lead....

John, we need this change...like yesterday.
How quick can we get this done?
Umm...probably 2 weeks to a month.

A flurry of curse words can be heard under the boss' breath....

Johh, why can't we just add this one more thing to the weapons locker?
Because it will break a bunch of code, which will set us back months.
Alright...so ideas..ideas people...let me hear them....
Umm..boss...how about we just make it an additional item that can be purchased from the setup screen?

After a few seconds of pondering the idea....

It doesn't make any logical sense..but what the hell...we need to get this off our plate. Make it so.

The sad thing is, I've actually been in meetings that went something like this.....

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by kandar:

The sad thing is, I've actually been in meetings that went something like this.....

Even more sad is that this is a multi billion dollar company, I know indie developers who can do better and that's not even a joke, dead serious.

[Lar Dass]

You only buy suppressors once though, after that just reequip it at the weapon selection screen

[in]

I don't even buy suppressors at all and game gives it regardless. Perhaps it's just for crackshot or whatever

[Sophia]

" 1)Explosives are useless.
2)Having to steal a cutting torch every time is ridiculous, nobody will trace a cutting torch that you will take with you.
3)Stealing weapons is stupid, we have a weapon research bunker.
4)Having to steal a vehicle is ridiculous, we have hundreds of them.
5) Bolt cutters are useless. "
allow me
6) why cant we keep a "uniform" after we take it?
7) why cant we take a uniform from the place where we get the location of the finger print thing?
8) why cant we take bolt cutters from the same place?
9) if i alert a guard half a mile away from everyone else and kill him before he would call me in (which they dont do anyway) how does literally everyone on the island know my location?
10) how does everyone keep knowing my location no matter how far away and how long i hide (although that issue is always present in every mission)
11) when you leave the compound stealthily pavel says they have no idea they have been hit; literally seconds later he will say the disguise will no longer work because now they know that they have been hit
12) ↑ isnt even true; disguises will still work
13) why is cover blown when a camera sees someone within the compund regardless of disguise?
14) why does one single painting take up as much space as an entire stack of yay or two entire stacks on cash?
15) related, why do stacks of different look take up different amounts of space even though they are literally the exact same size?
16) why cant we reuse the finger print machine?
17) why does the police not care about the longfin when you steal it? if you abandon it in front of them or die they will completely ignore it
18) why does everyone forget the big green button to exit the compound no matter how many times they have pressed it?
19) why does nobody see and/or hear the stealth plane/helicopter? they are only hidden to radar and not invisible or silent
20) why do they never increase security no matter how many times the exact same MO is used (subverted; pavel makes fun of it)
21) how can english dave be on the island most of the times but still be running my night club?
22) why can the vetir be let inside but no other vehicle?
23) why cant any vehicle be driven out of the place?
24) why does jumping from the cliff whilst in the compund insta kill you but jump from literally just the other side of the wall you will barely be hurt
25) how come nobody has armor when you destroy all but one crate but everyone has if you miss even just one crate? is all the armor in that one last crate? if so why do i destroy the other ones at all?
26) same basic idea with buzzards and guns

now some of them are ovbiousley for gameplay reasons but still really stupid and could have been solved in a better way; seems to me like either incompetence or lazyness

[TacoRalf]

Originally posted by Sophia:

" 1)Explosives are useless.
2)Having to steal a cutting torch every time is ridiculous, nobody will trace a cutting torch that you will take with you.
3)Stealing weapons is stupid, we have a weapon research bunker.
4)Having to steal a vehicle is ridiculous, we have hundreds of them.
5) Bolt cutters are useless. "
allow me
6) why cant we keep a "uniform" after we take it?
7) why cant we take a uniform from the place where we get the location of the finger print thing?
8) why cant we take bolt cutters from the same place?
9) if i alert a guard half a mile away from everyone else and kill him before he would call me in (which they dont do anyway) how does literally everyone on the island know my location?
10) how does everyone keep knowing my location no matter how far away and how long i hide (although that issue is always present in every mission)
11) when you leave the compound stealthily pavel says they have no idea they have been hit; literally seconds later he will say the disguise will no longer work because now they know that they have been hit
12) ↑ isnt even true; disguises will still work
13) why is cover blown when a camera sees someone within the compund regardless of disguise?
14) why does one single painting take up as much space as an entire stack of yay or two entire stacks on cash?
15) related, why do stacks of different look take up different amounts of space even though they are literally the exact same size?
16) why cant we reuse the finger print machine?
17) why does the police not care about the longfin when you steal it? if you abandon it in front of them or die they will completely ignore it
18) why does everyone forget the big green button to exit the compound no matter how many times they have pressed it?
19) why does nobody see and/or hear the stealth plane/helicopter? they are only hidden to radar and not invisible or silent
20) why do they never increase security no matter how many times the exact same MO is used (subverted; pavel makes fun of it)
21) how can english dave be on the island most of the times but still be running my night club?
22) why can the vetir be let inside but no other vehicle?
23) why cant any vehicle be driven out of the place?
24) why does jumping from the cliff whilst in the compund insta kill you but jump from literally just the other side of the wall you will barely be hurt
25) how come nobody has armor when you destroy all but one crate but everyone has if you miss even just one crate? is all the armor in that one last crate? if so why do i destroy the other ones at all?
26) same basic idea with buzzards and guns

now some of them are ovbiousley for gameplay reasons but still really stupid and could have been solved in a better way; seems to me like either incompetence or lazyness

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thats a comprehensive list. I actually got angry reading all this

[jas385]

Yeah, I don't get why we can't swipe the uniform and bolt cutters when we scope the island and then bring them back with us rather than having to wait until the finale. Also, I don't get why I always have suppressors for the finale even though I never buy them.

Regarding #11, I think someone always discovers the open vault/case on the camera once you get a certain distance from the compound. Why they don't notice while you're in there, I have no idea.

#21, I don't think English Dave was ever running your nightclub, that's Tony and Lazlow. Dave was just the guy from the beach party.

[Bad Harmony]

Finding logic in video games... why don't you try finding logic in more important matters like hunger or wars in real world?

[ChickenBalls]

yeah it is a shame that hunger doesnt exist in the game
we could order food in GTA SA which is a much older game

[Dallas]

Originally posted by kandar:

The sad thing is, I've actually been in meetings that went something like this.....

I started out my IT career in software development and this sounds like a transcript from one of our meetings. Reading your post gave me flashbacks.

[Zalzany]

Literally explained why over and over again "its stupid." No its not skipping it would be stupid and lazy lol. Why don't you just call whole fact we got even steal anything stupid we should just tell the sup captain to do it right, and he comes back in hour and were 2 million bucks richer right?

Bolt cutters i get not needing to steal again but an underwater torch has a serial number and its not to hard to look up who bought one in los santos who wasn't a real construction company lol. Like it would pretty easy narrow it down to like one of 6 people who bought the cutter who didn't actually need it, where as who stole it, when unless caught no one knows lol. Same with guns you got that kind of money you can pay some crooked cop to run ballstics from a slug in a wall or a gaurd and trace it to crimes you done with it. Vehichles same thing they got heaps of cash they can check for that oh you own something exactly matching it, and had to get bullet holes patched in it recently after the heist. Meanwhile you steal it and destroy it even if you own one any one tracking what happened will go "but the one used was firebombed, so it can't be that one..."

Like nothing seems that far fetched minus the bolt cutters those should be stupid easy to get and not hard to trace, uniform you want to ditch because if some one snooping around sees it or hears a rumor you got it, its enough for crime boss to go after you he don't prove a jurry, and you don't want that around even if your just worried about cops who have to prove with out a doubt lol.

But if you want maybe you can force them to make a prep heist for the silencers, sure community will thank you for keeping it real lol The issue is more people are lazy and want the game play to not matter, when its always made us do heist prep since first heist for these very reasons, why the ♥♥♥♥ should they stop now? Becuase its the new meta for making money and will shave a few minutes off you run, and get your more millions an hour? If any thing they sell more shark cards if it takes more time lol

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by kandar:

I wonder if the conversation went something like this.....

Boss, Cayo is done.
Has it went through QA?
We're doing that as we speak, should be ready for release by the end of the week if they don't find any bugs that circumvent the sale of shark cards.

Meanwhile, over at QA....

This is hard af.
Why did they not add suppressors to the weapons setup?
I'm gonna fire off an email and see if we can get this added.

A team meeting is held to discuss the email.

Ok people, you know why we're all here, right?
Yeah...boss...sure...
So how many of you idiots are going to take responsibility for not ADDING SUPPRESSORS TO A F-ING STEALTH MISSION SETUP!!!

Looks over at the program lead....

John, we need this change...like yesterday.
How quick can we get this done?
Umm...probably 2 weeks to a month.

A flurry of curse words can be heard under the boss' breath....

Johh, why can't we just add this one more thing to the weapons locker?
Because it will break a bunch of code, which will set us back months.
Alright...so ideas..ideas people...let me hear them....
Umm..boss...how about we just make it an additional item that can be purchased from the setup screen?

After a few seconds of pondering the idea....

It doesn't make any logical sense..but what the hell...we need to get this off our plate. Make it so.

The sad thing is, I've actually been in meetings that went something like this.....

MANY of us played it non stealth lol. It took quite a bit of time to do that one stealth even with suppressors lol. Just cause you watched the video 12 times and memorized how to first while many people did it themselves befor looking at the spoilers on how to do it don't make it the norm. I mean ♥♥♥♥ even now I get so lazy knowing its not that bad loud I blow my cover and go "who the hell cares, either way I end up racing a dirt bike into the ocean and swiming away in a scuba suit?"

[BORG]

Originally posted by TacoRalf:

Why do we have to steal everything but we buy suppressors? Pavel is always going on about not leaving any threads but isn't buying our suppressors just leaving a massive paper trail? Why can't we store all the stuff we stole on the sub in the first place. It's not like anyone could find us with the sonar deflector anyway.

You don't need to buy the suppressor. Steal the Conspirator weapon and it defaults as a silenced weapon.