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Yes this is true, but heists and heist set-ups are always played with a group of people. So you can use the Insurgent Pickup, the Half-track, technical custom, Dune Fav, Barrage, etc.
So I don't think people are going to spent more than 2 mil and a whole lot of research just to have a mounted gun during the heists.
It would be cool if we could see certain statistics of vehicle sales. I wonder what other vehicles have become obsolete.
Are you alright?
Besides, the speedo custom might be cheaper, but its slower, doesnt have the dual miniguns and the single minigun it does have, costs almost 3 times more than the dual miniguns of the tampa. Where is the speedo custom "on steroids"?
I have no problem with some vehicles being better than others as long as better vehicles are more expensive or more difficult to acquire.
The MKII for example costs almost 4 million, AND you need to buy a Terrorbyte to upgrade it AND all the good upgrades are locked away behind bunker research.
This way you don't feel like an idiot if you bought the much older Buzzard. It's not as good, but it's a lot cheaper and easier to acquire. So it's still being bought by new players.
The difference between a single minigun or a dual minigun is not very substantial when fighting NPC's. They both get the job done equally well.
Same with the speed. The weaponized Tampa is surprisingly slow for its class and the speedo custom is surprisingly fast for a van. I would not choose one over the other just because of speed. You own it for what's on the roof, not for what's under the hood.
The minigun on the speedo is more expensive yes. But not locked away behind research. And let's not forget you got this thing for FREE with the purchase of a nightclub.
The Tampa costs millions even without the dual minigun.
The only point I'm trying to make is that I think the new strong vehicles need to be more expensive so new players will still be tempted to try out the older cheaper options. That way all vehicles stay relevant in their own way.
Im not saying that you're wrong, some sense of progression and logic behind the prices sound good, but at the same time, I dont see much of a difference in a PvE situation. As you said, both get the job done.
I also don't see much issue in the pricetags and for me personally, I dont care much for whats on the roof if the vehicle itself is fun to drive. The Minigun on the speedo is hideous anyway, so I dont have one on it. :p
Wrong. The only good weapons the MK2 has are the homing missiles and they are definitely locked behind bunker research.
Let's just agree to partially agree :).
It's not like the Dev's will actually read this post and change the way they work. I just wanted to point it out. And you're right that in the end, there's not much of a difference.
That guy is complaining about modders and temporary discounts. So no. Different discussion entirely.
For starters, players also need to pay for the Speedo upgrades, those don't come for free. Second: several of its weapons (like proximity mines) also need to be unlocked through bunker research before you can apply them. This also applies to the other vehicles by the way...
And of course... try pitting them together when under fire.
You're completely missing the point in your remarks. Maybe because you really don't understand what I'm saying. But I think it's more likely because you're not really open minded in this discussion.
I'll try to explain in a way even you understand. If you want to of course.
I don't care about the overall prices of vehicles.
I care about prices of vehicles compared to prices of other vehicles.
My point is not that all vehicles should cost 10-20 million. Like the other guy.
My point is that if a vehicle-A costs 4 million, and they add a new, better vehicle-B that only costs 2 million, nobody is ever going to buy the first vehicle-A anymore.
However if the new vehicle-B costs 6 million the old vehicle-A stays a valid choice even if it's not as good.
You'll need a nightclub for the Speedo. Cheapest is 1 mil.
The Speedo Custom comes free with any nightclub.
The workshop to upgrade one comes free with any nightclub.
The armor upgrades + the remote minigun cost a total of 435K
The Weaponized Tampa costs 2.1 mil.
You need a MOC to upgrade it. 1.2 mil.
You need a special vehicle workshop to upgrade it. 1 mil.
You need a bunker for the research. Cheapest bunker 1.1 mil.
The armor upgrades + the remote minigun cost a total of 101K.
Even IF the Tampa is slightly better.
Why would any new player in their right mind spend THAT MUCH for something that is slightly better at best.
I just think the Speedo is too cheap.
Or the Tampa too expensive.
Either way. Getting kind of bored by explaining my point to people too lazy to read. So I'll end the debate. Nothing will change anyway.
Speedo custom with low quality armor, dual miniguns and maybe proximity mines. Can't add more.
vs.
Tampa with rockets, miniguns and a mortar which can fire backwards. Plus of course better armor.
Because you're comparing apples and oranges here, obviously. So now it's suddenly about new players? Those kind who don't know how the game mechanics really work, I guess things start to make more sense to me now ;)
Alas: you don't buy the bunker just for the Tampa's weapons nor do you get an MOC only to upgrade the Tampa. You'll use those for lots of other stuff as well, so it's kinda stupid to compare these prices like that because when the next armored car comes along you're suddenly 'saving' yourself the price for having to buy & upgrade the MOC.
Or you're simply playing with mid-game stuff while still being new and thus fail to see the real picture here. Because you're only focusing on one specific aspect of the game and ignoring everything else.
Some stuff simply isn't meant for newbies. Sure, they can get it when grinding and shark-carding and other stuff but it doesn't change the fact that there's usually (definitely not always!) some balance involved. In this case the fact that there's more for the bunker & MOC than just the Tampa.
For the record: that's coming from someone who owns both the nightclub & (customized) Speedo as well as the Tampa. Funny enough my Tampa is stored in my nightclub so I could easily do some fact checking before posting here ;)
But needless to say I don't agree with your conclusion, for reasons stated above.