Star Control: Origins

Star Control: Origins

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Game makes my computer run out of RAM and crash
Keep getting memory is low warning and to close the game its a microsoft warning then the game crashes. Windows 8.1 with 16 GB
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Frogboy  [developer] Sep 22, 2018 @ 10:40am 
This is an indication that you don't have a paging file on your system. Make sure you haven't changed the virtual memory options in your performance options in Windows 8. You should set it to system managed.

Also, make sure you haven't run out of memory for your paging file. ;)
MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Draginol:
This is an indication that you don't have a paging file on your system. Make sure you haven't changed the virtual memory options in your performance options in Windows 8. You should set it to system managed.

Also, make sure you haven't run out of memory for your paging file. ;)
I have no idea what you are talking about but i have no issues like this with other games, I mean cmon guys not everyone is a computer wiz, you can't release a game like this
MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:31am 
Was really enjoying this game but now im considering a refund, I'm not changing anything on my PC escpcially not the virtual memory as that will remove more space from my ssd , no thx , Fix your game guys
Last edited by MaTheMeatloaf!; Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:31am
Dbrn Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:33am 
Navigate to control panel > System > Advanced System Settings > Navigate to advanced tab > Performance Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory - Change
MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Navigate to control panel > System > Advanced System Settings > Navigate to advanced tab > Performance Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory - Change
Why does this only happen with this game ?
Dbrn Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
Was really enjoying this game but now im considering a refund, I'm not changing anything on my PC escpcially not the virtual memory as that will remove more space from my ssd , no thx , Fix your game guys

You can try turning off some stuff while you play the game. The issue is that Windows likes to commit memory (in case you run out) which essentially increases the amount of RAM you need. That's taken care of by Virtual Memory. I've had to do it for some games even with 16GB of RAM. Some games have caused a 30GB commit, so without increasing pagefile the games would just crash when it hit the limit, even though I still had RAM left to use.
Dbrn Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Navigate to control panel > System > Advanced System Settings > Navigate to advanced tab > Performance Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory - Change
Why does this only happen with this game ?

I think it's a combination of windows itself and how programs are coded, but I could be making that up, I'm sure either side would blame the other, but it's definitely inconsistent. I'll load the game up and see how much it's using for me.

I usually have a Twitch stream up while I play games as well, but some games just use more pagefile than others and I've had it increased since I tried to play Final Fantasy XV, that game loves pagefile. I'm on SSDs as well, which sucks but it actually doesn't even seem to use much of it. Out of the X amount commited, it wasn't even using 1% of the pagefile that it thought it needed.
Last edited by Dbrn; Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:39am
MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
Was really enjoying this game but now im considering a refund, I'm not changing anything on my PC escpcially not the virtual memory as that will remove more space from my ssd , no thx , Fix your game guys

You can try turning off some stuff while you play the game. The issue is that Windows likes to commit memory (in case you run out) which essentially increases the amount of RAM you need. That's taken care of by Virtual Memory. I've had to do it for some games even with 16GB of RAM. Some games have caused a 30GB commit, so without increasing pagefile the games would just crash when it hit the limit, even though I still had RAM left to use.
Ok thank you
Dbrn Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:47am 
Looking at my RAM usage right now with the game loaded up. Star Control is actually only using 1GB of RAM, Firefox is using more (I have a stream up) 1.5GB. There's a bunch of other stuff up as well like Steam, Avast, various Windows stuff, all using negligible RAM amounts each but the total usage is 6.2GB out of my 16GB. However, for some reason Windows has commited 19.1GB of memory (9.4 cashed). Doesn't make much sense to me, but it's supposed to both keep everything running and make it so if the system crashes you get a crash dump to analyze.

Furthermore, my usage is always lower after a restart. So that seems to indicate that it's possbily holding more memory hostage for faster program startups. Opening/closing programs seems to cause caching, which further increase the amount of cache, which adds to windows committing memory.

Maybe it's just a windows thing and you need to keep an eye on what you have running, maybe even restart to lower the amount of caching.
Last edited by Dbrn; Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:50am
Frogboy  [developer] Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Navigate to control panel > System > Advanced System Settings > Navigate to advanced tab > Performance Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory - Change
Why does this only happen with this game ?

Because this game uses all your CPU cores and the more CPU cores you have, the more memory Windows will commit to it. But on the other hand, you gain seamless transitions (very few loading screens).

MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Looking at my RAM usage right now with the game loaded up. Star Control is actually only using 1GB of RAM, Firefox is using more (I have a stream up) 1.5GB. There's a bunch of other stuff up as well like Steam, Avast, various Windows stuff, all using negligible RAM amounts each but the total usage is 6.2GB out of my 16GB. However, for some reason Windows has commited 19.1GB of memory (9.4 cashed). Doesn't make much sense to me, but it's supposed to both keep everything running and make it so if the system crashes you get a crash dump to analyze.

Furthermore, my usage is always lower after a restart. So that seems to indicate that it's possbily holding more memory hostage for faster program startups. Opening/closing programs seems to cause caching, which further increase the amount of cache, which adds to windows committing memory.

Maybe it's just a windows thing and you need to keep an eye on what you have running, maybe even restart to lower the amount of caching.
I think i did change my page filing awhile back to free up room on my ssd, I had changed it to 512 mb , Im going to try doubling it to 1024 that should take care of crashing no ?
What a whiny cry baby. Jesus Christ.

"Waaah, how dare you all release a game like this, its broken, c'mon!"

Dev: Make sure you haven't changed the virtual memory options in your performance options in Windows 8.

"Waaaaaaah, I'm not a computer wiz how dare you. I 'm not changing anything just for your game. I'mma refund. Waaaaaah."

Dev: *Well, try this.*

Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
I think i did change my page filing awhile back to free up room on my ssd, I had changed it to 512 mb , Im going to try doubling it to 1024 that should take care of crashing no ?



Last edited by I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym; Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:57am
MaTheMeatloaf! Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by I'mSoMeta,EvenThisAcronym:
What a whiny cry baby. Jesus Christ.

"Waaah, how dare you all release a game like this, its broken, c'mon!"

Dev: Make sure you haven't changed the virtual memory options in your performance options in Windows 8.

"Waaaaaaah, I'm not a computer wiz how dare you. I 'm not changing anything just for your game. I'mma refund. Waaaaaah."

Dev: *Well, try this.*

Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
I think i did change my page filing awhile back to free up room on my ssd, I had changed it to 512 mb , Im going to try doubling it to 1024 that should take care of crashing no ?
lol Your right
Last edited by MaTheMeatloaf!; Sep 22, 2018 @ 11:59am
Rhonin the wizard Sep 22, 2018 @ 12:01pm 
Enough, be civil to each other.
Dbrn Sep 22, 2018 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
Originally posted by Dbrn:
Looking at my RAM usage right now with the game loaded up. Star Control is actually only using 1GB of RAM, Firefox is using more (I have a stream up) 1.5GB. There's a bunch of other stuff up as well like Steam, Avast, various Windows stuff, all using negligible RAM amounts each but the total usage is 6.2GB out of my 16GB. However, for some reason Windows has commited 19.1GB of memory (9.4 cashed). Doesn't make much sense to me, but it's supposed to both keep everything running and make it so if the system crashes you get a crash dump to analyze.

Furthermore, my usage is always lower after a restart. So that seems to indicate that it's possbily holding more memory hostage for faster program startups. Opening/closing programs seems to cause caching, which further increase the amount of cache, which adds to windows committing memory.

Maybe it's just a windows thing and you need to keep an eye on what you have running, maybe even restart to lower the amount of caching.
I think i did change my page filing awhile back to free up room on my ssd, I had changed it to 512 mb , Im going to try doubling it to 1024 that should take care of crashing no ?

Possibly. As I was trying to explain it, it's going to depend on how much Windows is committing (current usage + cached) for RAM. Try it out and see, if anything it will extend the amount of time before a crash. You can see that information by using CTRL + SHIFT + ESCAPE and going to the performance tab. You might find that Windows has simply committed a lot of things to RAM. It's not even necessarily using that space, it's just what it has promised for usage, which is why pagefile is important if you don't have unlimited RAM and you multi-task.

The reason the game is crashing in this case, is typically Windows will start dumping programs it deems unimportant first so that the entire system doesn't crash.
Last edited by Dbrn; Sep 22, 2018 @ 12:07pm
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