Which is objectively the better deal now steam or epic?

[Dank Sidious]

EDIT:

Found a better deal than either of these today with
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/xcomiicollection/info/

Void sells the steam bundle it at 11,70€ which you can apply a 20% spring sale voucher to dropping the price down to 9,36€. This is clearly a better deal than either presented in this thread so I went with that.

Thank you everyone for your opinions.

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So which deal offers objectively the best value for your money?

This steam bundle for 12,48€

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/7118/XCOM_2_Collection/
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2794564683

Or Free XCOM 2+ XCOM2 DLC Collection for 8,99 on EGS:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2794560745

Consider also that steam workshop mods are downloadable outside of steam. You won't have to rely only on nexus with either of the versions. So all mods are fully accessible on both version meaning with the EGS version you will be losing the convenience of workshop, but not the content.

Does the EGS DLC collection have the same content as steam bundle? Which gives you the most gameplay value for the money paid? Please only objective opinions directly relating to playing the game itself. Lets ignore that EPIC is a crap company, their ties to Tencent or whatever arguments you that are not directly related to the gameplay experience and value.


Edit:

If I understand correctly the only thing Epic Bundle is missing is the Tactical Legacy Pack. How much does that DLC add to the overall experience?

[Mez Koo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez psychotron666420:

As you can tell there's lots of die hard brand ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who will refuse to buy anywhere besides steam, because only Steam is allowed a monopoly on the PC gaming market and only Steam is allowed to force DRM and unnecessary launchers on you. If anyone else does it, it's anti consumer practice.

Its not always about "ONLY STEAM" and its usually about Epic just being terrible for the consumer. I'd personally be happy to give money to EA or Ubisoft for example because they actually make their own games and don't just buy exclusive rights to them and their launchers actually have features and work. Of course I would prefer Steam if I'm giving the choice but I doubt I'll ever buy something from Epic because of bribes to keep stuff away from Steam rather than trying to actually be competitive like EA, Ubisoft, or GOG.

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mez Koo:

Początkowo opublikowane przez psychotron666420:

As you can tell there's lots of die hard brand ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who will refuse to buy anywhere besides steam, because only Steam is allowed a monopoly on the PC gaming market and only Steam is allowed to force DRM and unnecessary launchers on you. If anyone else does it, it's anti consumer practice.

Its not always about "ONLY STEAM" and its usually about Epic just being terrible for the consumer. I'd personally be happy to give money to EA or Ubisoft for example because they actually make their own games and don't just buy exclusive rights to them and their launchers actually have features and work. Of course I would prefer Steam if I'm giving the choice but I doubt I'll ever buy something from Epic because of bribes to keep stuff away from Steam rather than trying to actually be competitive like EA, Ubisoft, or GOG.

How has epic been bad for consumers recently? Their recent direction has been competing for consumers with better sales deals, free games and their exclusives have been games they've actually funded from the start rather than on-going projects that they've just bribed off for exclusivity.

I certainly prefer just about any other platform, but I don't exactly mind their attempt at competing with game deals. That's a healthier approach than their initial strategy was.

[Mez Koo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

free games and their exclusives have been games they've actually funded from the start rather than on-going projects that they've just bribed off for exclusivity.

https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg

[TheRandomGuy]

I had no idea Epic lacks the Tactical Legacy Pack. It doesn't add much missions, but it DOES add XCOM Enemy Unknown / Enemy Within (AKA 2012 XCOM, the one that preceded 2) cosmetics, and an absolutely BANGER Retro Soundtrack that modernizes old school Original (AKA 1990s) XCOM Music.

The missions themselves basically have you play as Bradford and The Early Resistance Soldiers, and tell how they formed XCOM out of the Resistance.

Also, Steam Workshop has the majority of mods. You're basically paying either

8.00 or so USD on Epic for every DLC EXCEPT The Tactical Legacy Pack, AND lack of a Steam Workshop

Or

12.00 Dollars on Steam For EVERY DLC (Including Tactical Legacy) and easy access to workshop mods.

Honestly Despite the base game being free Steam does literally give you more than Epic does for only around 4 bucks more, and it's not like you're not just paying for nothing, the Tactical Legacy Pack is in the Steam Bundle and not in Epic's, and of course, mods are included.

[Mez Koo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez TheRandomGuy:

I had no idea Epic lacks the Tactical Legacy Pack. It doesn't add much missions, but it DOES add XCOM Enemy Unknown / Enemy Within (AKA 2012 XCOM, the one that preceded 2) cosmetics, and an absolutely BANGER Retro Soundtrack that modernizes old school Original (AKA 1990s) XCOM Music.

The soundtrack options are part of that? The tactical legacy pack is worth it alone for that retro soundtrack option

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez TheRandomGuy:

I had no idea Epic lacks the Tactical Legacy Pack. It doesn't add much missions, but it DOES add XCOM Enemy Unknown / Enemy Within (AKA 2012 XCOM, the one that preceded 2) cosmetics, and an absolutely BANGER Retro Soundtrack that modernizes old school Original (AKA 1990s) XCOM Music.

This is good to know. Opinions and information like this is exactly why I started this topic.

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Also, Steam Workshop has the majority of mods. You're basically paying either

8.00 or so USD on Epic for every DLC EXCEPT The Tactical Legacy Pack, AND lack of a Steam Workshop

Or

12.00 Dollars on Steam For EVERY DLC (Including Tactical Legacy) and easy access to workshop mods.

Honestly Despite the base game being free Steam does literally give you more than Epic does for only around 4 bucks more, and it's not like you're not just paying for nothing, the Tactical Legacy Pack is in the Steam Bundle and not in Epic's, and of course, mods are included.

As I mentioned in my OP. Mods do not factor into this decision. All workshop mods can be downloaded without using steam to download them. It's just less convenient to do.

[Mez Koo]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Mez Koo:

https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg

Do you have counter examples outside of Square Enix games? It's not hard to change my mind on this.

Off the top of my head I can say Tiny Tina's Wonderlands for a start.

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mez Koo:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

Do you have counter examples outside of Square Enix games? It's not hard to change my mind on this.

Off the top of my head I can say Tiny Tina's Wonderlands for a start.

Oh FFS you are right... This sours my opinion on EGS again when I though they were doing better and actually started competing by giving customers good deals and more options instead of taking them away.

In any case I noticed a new deal today for 9.36€ Which has all the same content as the steam version but for only 36 cents more than the epic. So this is clearly the best deal and EGS can shove it.

[isomorphic_projection]

Obviously epic now, cause it's free.

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez isomorphic_projection:

Obviously epic now, cause it's free.

The question was about the base game + DLC content. Not just base game.

[isomorphic_projection]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

Początkowo opublikowane przez isomorphic_projection:

Obviously epic now, cause it's free.

The question was about the base game + DLC content. Not just base game.

I got it free now also on epic. Epic main game free, dlc's 8,99. Steam main game 4,99, dlc's 42,16.

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez isomorphic_projection:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

The question was about the base game + DLC content. Not just base game.

I got it free now also on epic. Epic main game free, dlc's 8,99. Steam main game 4,99, dlc's 42,16.

FFS read the OP.

[isomorphic_projection]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

Początkowo opublikowane przez isomorphic_projection:

I got it free now also on epic. Epic main game free, dlc's 8,99. Steam main game 4,99, dlc's 42,16.

FFS read the OP.

I did in total it's cheaper on epic, including the dlc's. You payed 0,37 euro cents more on void.

[Dank Sidious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez isomorphic_projection:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

FFS read the OP.

I did in total it's cheaper on epic, including the dlc's. You payed 0,37 euro cents more on void.

EGS doesn't have Tactical Legacy Pack. Meaning I paid 0,37€ extra for a 7,99€ DLC.

[Steve (Dawn's Hubby)]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Pääpeelsepuuppi:

Yeah past that point already. I use Epic games store for mostly the free games they provide so providing data to Winnie-the-pooh and his party pooppers is a line I've already crossed. That doesn't really change the objective value of the game + DLC that is on offer.



Do you have counter examples outside of Square Enix games? It's not hard to change my mind on this.

Listen as much as I don't hate epic and actually welcome steam competitors as competition is in the long run good for customers they do pay developer for exclusivity deal. Metro exodus by 4A was available on steam until epic pay 1 year exclusivity to the studio. Hades by supergiant games sign 1 year exclusivity deal, hitman 3 also 1 year exclusivity by IO interactive, and recently sifu by slopclap. None of those studios are affiliated to epic whatsoever.

Edit: Before I forget since you play xcom even one of the designer of OG XCOM Jullian Gollop sign deal with epic for exclusivity of his game phoenix point

Steam does not set prices and neither does Epic do they? So how is Epic good for customers?