FPS Issues

[FamilyGuy0395]

Under Options --> Graphics --> Hardware Settings --> Framelock, there are two options: 30 FPS and 60 FPS VSync.

Naturally, I chose 60 FPS VSync, as I'd prefer the smoother experience, but the game is locked at 30 FPS (29 FPS to be specific). Switching back and forth between 30 FPS and 60 FPS VSync gives me the same result of a framelock of 30 FPS.

Has anyone else experienced this issue? I don't understand what's going on here, but I really don't want to have to play this game in 30 FPS. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Also, are there are ways to play this game over 60 FPS (**without breaking things in the game**)? I have a 165 Hz G-Sync monitor, and I'd love to be able to play it at 165 FPS (again, given it doesn't cause any issues in the game).

[Erebus]

+r_swapinterval 0

[Erebus]

launch properties

[FamilyGuy0395]

Isn't that command for unlocking the framerate? Does this cause issues? Is there anyway to play it at the intended 60 FPS framelock?

[Erebus]

the 60fps option isn't the intended way to play. it was patched in after release the framepacing on it is all messed up so 30fps cap or uncapped completely feels smoother

generally what most people do is they uncap it and then cap it with rivatuner or something similar to around 60fps

higher framerates "might" work, but they also might have some issues YMMV

[FamilyGuy0395]

Are you aware of why the 60 FPS option just doesn't work?

Also, so if I understand what you're saying, the best experience on PC is to unlock the framerate entirely, and then cap it with software? Will I experience any issues doing this?

[Erebus]

Originally posted by xBiG DoG 1013x:

Are you aware of why the 60 FPS option just doesn't work?

Also, so if I understand what you're saying, the best experience on PC is to unlock the framerate entirely, and then cap it with software? Will I experience any issues doing this?

Probably something on your end interfering, maybe drivers or utilities or something. I've played it at 60fps some and it worked fine when I tried, but i opted for 30fps for most my play cause less heat and better framepacing.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by xBiG DoG 1013x:

Are you aware of why the 60 FPS option just doesn't work?

Also, so if I understand what you're saying, the best experience on PC is to unlock the framerate entirely, and then cap it with software? Will I experience any issues doing this?

Most likely no it should be fine, but with PC being what it is there is always that small "potential". Numerous people have played the game that way just fine.

[FamilyGuy0395]

I went into the Nvidia Control Panel and disabled G-Sync just to see what the results are.

Setting the game to a framelock of 30 FPS results in a roughly 55 FPS lock.

Setting the game to a framelock of 60 FPS VSync results in what looks like an unlocked framerate (anywhere from like 83 FPS to over ~120 FPS).

This makes absolutely no sense.

[Erebus]

Oh right 30fps and 60fps options in the menu are really just v-sync and half-refresh v-sync. So being on a 165hz screen... it's going to change what those settings do.

The options are poorly named and idtech 5 is basically just using whatever options are exposed by windows as far as refresh, resolution, etc.

[FamilyGuy0395]

This has been really weird to figure out, but I really appreciate your help! I'll post below with what I believe I found out.

[FamilyGuy0395]

In summary (if anyone out there experiences the same problems and wants to try to avoid them):

Console commands and their intended effects:

r_swapinterval -2 --> 30 FPS lock
r_swapinterval -1 --> 60 FPS lock
r_swapinterval 0 --> Unlocked/uncapped framerate

1. G-Sync --> On + r_swapinterval -1 (or -2): Game is locked to ~29 FPS regardless of the set framelock

2. G-Sync --> On + r_swapinterval 0: Framerate is unlocked, but has unbearable frame dips and terrible framepacing

3. G-Sync --> Off:

30 FPS (r_swapinterval -2): ~55 FPS lock

60 FPS VSync (r_swapinterval -1): Appears to be a ~83 FPS lock, but sometimes the framerate jumps up (anywhere from 84 FPS to past 120 FPS) and jumps back down to 83 FPS, causing weird side effects

TL;DR These developers are f****** monkeys; if, like me, you have a 165 Hz G-Sync monitor, I recommend turning off G-Sync and setting the in-game framelock to 30 FPS for the best gaming experience (hopefully).

[Erebus]

Originally posted by xBiG DoG 1013x:

In summary (if anyone out there experiences the same problems and wants to try to avoid them):

Console commands and their intended effects:

r_swapinterval -2 --> 30 FPS lock
r_swapinterval -1 --> 60 FPS lock
r_swapinterval 0 --> Unlocked/uncapped framerate

1. G-Sync --> On + r_swapinterval -1 (or -2): Game is locked to ~29 FPS regardless of the set framelock

2. G-Sync --> On + r_swapinterval 0: Framerate is unlocked, but has unbearable frame dips and terrible framepacing

3. G-Sync --> Off:

30 FPS (r_swapinterval -2): ~55 FPS lock

60 FPS VSync (r_swapinterval -1): Appears to be a ~83 FPS lock, but sometimes the framerate jumps up (anywhere from 84 FPS to past 120 FPS) and jumps back down to 83 FPS, causing weird side effects

TL;DR These developers are f****** monkeys; if, like me, you have a 165 Hz G-Sync monitor, I recommend turning off G-Sync and setting the in-game framelock to 30 FPS for the best gaming experience (hopefully).

Yeah... it's not a great engine at all. And the devs had to rewrite large portions of it to make the game "work". The other idtech 5 games are just as wonky in various aspects.

[Le Fox]

This thread really helped me, thanks.
I just set this up on my new rig running Windows 11.

I set up the following.
Set the game .exe (right click, properties) in the steam/common/game folder to be compatible with Windows 7.
I also checked the 2 boxes for DPI scaling fixes.
Launch parameters in Steam Application I set as:
+r_swapinterval 0

In Nvidea Control Panel, program settings, I added the game .exe and set max fps to 60. (You can select the value that suits you). If you turn this off, FPS will 100% load your GPU to the max FPS it is capable of.

I loaded the game and once I got past the black screen:
(Ctrl, alt, delete, then cancel, once or twice to get to the game menu, I set the resolution to my display native resolution).
For me this was 4k.
In game graphics menu fps, I set to 30 FPS.

This locked the game at 60 fps for me.

[dethtrain]

I have no idea whats going on either but before I started using launch options, when I set the game to 60fps vsynch locked, steam actually shows FPS in the 140s. When I change it to 30 fps, I consistently get 46 fps for some reason (such an odd number). Now with various launch options.... its still the same. Theres at least 1 chase sequence I think with the amalgamation where I have to bring it down to the 30 fps setting so I can beat it... otherwise the monster pushes a cart in front of a doorway and I get stuck.

Oh I'm on a 2k Hyperx monitor that runs at 165hz. There are various games for some reason that synch me at 144. Most synch at 165 fps though. And then there's this game.

[Aemony]

Originally posted by dethtrain:

I have no idea whats going on either but before I started using launch options, when I set the game to 60fps vsynch locked, steam actually shows FPS in the 140s. When I change it to 30 fps, I consistently get 46 fps for some reason (such an odd number). Now with various launch options.... its still the same. Theres at least 1 chase sequence I think with the amalgamation where I have to bring it down to the 30 fps setting so I can beat it... otherwise the monster pushes a cart in front of a doorway and I get stuck.

Oh I'm on a 2k Hyperx monitor that runs at 165hz. There are various games for some reason that synch me at 144. Most synch at 165 fps though. And then there's this game.

You need to cap it using a third-party tool like RTSS, see e.g. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Evil_Within#Stuttering.2Fmicro_stuttering_while_moving_around_or_during_camera_movement