Metaphor: ReFantazio

Metaphor: ReFantazio

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Texus Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:59am
Full Game Performance
Can I expect a similar performance from what I had seen from the demo?
It just released afterall, but I would lie if I say I know 100% how the whole thing works.
I probably haven't bought a monster of a game in a while.
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boblemoche Oct 1, 2024 @ 1:09am 
No one knows for sure right now, but with such a short time until release I doubt much would change. Maybe in a post-release patch ?
Soushi [SSRB] Oct 1, 2024 @ 1:23am 
Full game will be protected by Denuvo, that wasn't present in the demo, so there's that.
Although, contrary to populat beliefs, Denuvo by itself is not the problem: if implemented by the devs properly, it's impact on perfomance is negligible.
I haven't heard of recent Atlus releases being bogged down by it, so chances are, they will do a proper job. Waiting for a couple of days after release might be a good idea, if you're not sure about performance on your hardware.
JCKLNTRN Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:12am 
Atlus have said they are aware of the performance issues present in the demo, and are working on them.

At least for me, using Special K completely solved the issues anyway.
SlyCoop Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Soushi SSRB:
Full game will be protected by Denuvo, that wasn't present in the demo, so there's that.
Although, contrary to populat beliefs, Denuvo by itself is not the problem: if implemented by the devs properly, it's impact on perfomance is negligible.
I haven't heard of recent Atlus releases being bogged down by it, so chances are, they will do a proper job. Waiting for a couple of days after release might be a good idea, if you're not sure about performance on your hardware.

Denuvo could be the thing that makes this go from enjoyable -> to not enjoyable for me if it hits performance. I'm going to wait a few days after release.
Last edited by SlyCoop; Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:47am
Kaldaien Oct 1, 2024 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by SlyCoop:
Originally posted by Soushi SSRB:
Full game will be protected by Denuvo, that wasn't present in the demo, so there's that.
Although, contrary to populat beliefs, Denuvo by itself is not the problem: if implemented by the devs properly, it's impact on perfomance is negligible.
I haven't heard of recent Atlus releases being bogged down by it, so chances are, they will do a proper job. Waiting for a couple of days after release might be a good idea, if you're not sure about performance on your hardware.

Denuvo could be the thing that makes this go from enjoyable -> to not enjoyable for me if it hits performance. I'm going to wait a few days after release.
That's a myth :-\

I've done countless performance mods on Denuvo protected games now. Both NieR: Automata and NieR: Replicant performed better before they removed Denuvo.

Denuvo's not without problems, mind you, especially on Steam Deck, where you can run out of activations just trying to get a flaky game like this one running (as each version of Proton you try eats into your 5 activation per-48 hour period limit), but performance isn't one of them.
Soushi [SSRB] Oct 1, 2024 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Kaldaien:
That's a myth :-\
Not entirely, there were a couple of notable AAA examples where Denuvo completely tanked the game and after its removal the problems went away. Backed by numerous reviews from tech-channels that measure fps and stuff.
Naturally, people blamed Denuvo and not the devs, who completely messed up the implementation, integrating it incorrectly into their games.
Kaldaien Oct 1, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Soushi SSRB:
Originally posted by Kaldaien:
That's a myth :-\
Not entirely, there were a couple of notable AAA examples where Denuvo completely tanked the game and after its removal the problems went away. Backed by numerous reviews from tech-channels that measure fps and stuff.
Naturally, people blamed Denuvo and not the devs, who completely messed up the implementation, integrating it incorrectly into their games.
Has nothing to do with Denuvo being integrated into games.

Has everything to do with the developer's own proprietary ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. There are notable examples, yes, I've even worked on a few of the DRM bypasses in said notable examples. CAPCOM comes to mind immediately.

The only thing Denuvo does in their case is make it more difficult to find and remove the actual problem. Doesn't impact the performance of the problem code, the problem code can be removed without removing Denuvo, and that's because Denuvo's not the problem :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZGCwAJpbM

Here, for example. Cracked version fixed the problem. Cracked version includes the stuff I fixed. CAPCOM later patched the game and fixed the performance of their stuff without removing Denuvo.
Faiyez Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
The launch game is going to perform exactly the same as the demo.
F.O.A.M Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by JCKLNTRN:
Atlus have said they are aware of the performance issues present in the demo, and are working on them.

At least for me, using Special K completely solved the issues anyway.
special K?
my bro using cereal as a booster and its WORKING.
i dont know what it means so what does it mean? xD
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Date Posted: Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:59am
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