So now that the game is cracked will they remove Denuvo?

[Nu_Naym]

Now there's a cracked version about surely there's no point in keeping the DRM in the game right?

All it means now is paying customers get a worse product than those who get it for free

[Snow]

There is no cracked version.

[Rager]

Messaggio originale di Snow:

There is no cracked version.

I mean they demo trick worked, and that bypass DRM. So crack or not, People get to play it for free.

Mind you it is a subpar game, So does not really matter.

Also, people saying "It does not harm anything." Please do research before you talk like you understand. Even a quick Google search the ai tells you.


Yes, Denuvo can negatively impact game performance:
Loading times: Some tests say Denuvo can increase loading times by up to 80%.
Frame rate: Denuvo can impact the frame rate of some games.
Boot time: Denuvo can influence games' boot time


It got this from people testing it. Reason why cracked games run better and faster. That is a fact not up for debate.

[BEEP!]

Messaggio originale di Snow:

There is no cracked version.

LOL did you not hear the pirates have full access to the game through the Demo.exe because the devs forgot to put Denuvo in the demo at launch.
And there's also a whole other bypass method so the pirates don't even need to crack Denuvo to begin with.

Like the reason we almost never hear of denuvo cracks is because they don't need to even crack them fir the vast majority of game's with denuvo there's been a bypass method for years & years now.

[CheeseBoar]

Messaggio originale di ŁōãF:

Messaggio originale di Shodingus:

You seem upset, shill.

Same could be said about you, cry baby.

Just work, earn money and buy your games and dont have a pc made out of stone.

You made this reply to someone who has six times as many Steam games as you do, including this message board's game, which you don't have.

[hush]

Messaggio originale di CheeseBoar:

Messaggio originale di ŁōãF:

Same could be said about you, cry baby.

Just work, earn money and buy your games and dont have a pc made out of stone.

You made this reply to someone who has six times as many Steam games as you do, including this message board's game, which you don't have.

yes he's a cry baby and i have 2k games

[Kaldaien]

Messaggio originale di Nu_Naym:

All it means now is paying customers get a worse product than those who get it for free

Paying customers get patches. Your statement will be a true one when we're fairly confident ATLUS has stopped patching the game.

I have the better product, frankly. Bought it on Microsoft Store, and I can play it on my Xbox Series X or PC. Same price as Steam, but two platforms.

[Kaldaien]

Messaggio originale di Rager:

Messaggio originale di Snow:

There is no cracked version.

Yes, Denuvo can negatively impact game performance:
Loading times: Some tests say Denuvo can increase loading times by up to 80%.
Frame rate: Denuvo can impact the frame rate of some games.
Boot time: Denuvo can influence games' boot time


It got this from people testing it. Reason why cracked games run better and faster. That is a fact not up for debate.

No you didn't. Nobody who is associated with performance mods or testing has ever found what you are claiming.

We have found time after time that there is zero difference with Denuvo and without, and I have patched out the actual problems with performance on multiple occasions such as Resident Evil: Village, without removing Denuvo.

Cracked versions of games do not remove Denuvo, they just bypass the code that Denuvo is obfuscating. That code is NOT Denuvo, it is created by the game's developers. It can be removed without removing Denuvo (though Denuvo can make doing so an obnoxious process).

Sadly, CAPCOM's known for keeping their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ anti-piracy in their games after they remove Denuvo -- in their case, they have more than anti-piracy on their mind, they're on an all out war to make life difficult for anyone trying to modify their games and they ship paying customers an executable full of performance hindering memory scans with no intention to ever remove that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

There's zero difference in performance when CAPCOM eventually removes Denuvo, and to add insult to injury, you still have to use something like REFramework or find a cracked executable to remove their actual anti-piracy code. Without Denuvo, that code is less obfuscated and easier to find, but it's still freaking there :(

[Shodingus]

Messaggio originale di hush:

Messaggio originale di CheeseBoar:

You made this reply to someone who has six times as many Steam games as you do, including this message board's game, which you don't have.

yes he's a cry baby and i have 2k games

I'm pretty sure he was referring to me, lmao

[ZiffyHead]

I could be wrong, but when they consistently "forget" to put Denuvo in the demo, I have to ask myself if there is a reason to keep it out, like a performance hit or an intermittent issue?

Why do they constantly "forget" to put it in demos?

I mean after the 3rd time you'd think that it would be an official part of the software test matrix and if it isn't, the manager needs to be replaced, so it almost seems purposeful instead of forgetful.

But why?

Maybe it's just marketing not wanting anti-Denuvo threads before release and marketing decided that these threads will take more sales than pirates so they left it out on purpose knowing it would lead to piracy but ultimately by leaving it out they lose less sales?

[min3r95]

I posted this in another thread

Denuvo's forced online authorization feature show how crucial it is to ensure that players have reliable, unrestricted access to their games, free from factors that are outside of player's control.
It not just about how many times you can "activate" your games or how frequently it is to do so, the restriction is the problem and shouldn't be there in the first place.

After my experience with Ghostwire Tokyo and some other games, combined with some developers pretty confirmed that it's the case, I'm not going to believe that Denuvo cause no performance issues. My hope is that at least, the developers are catching on the issues so we can again at least have playable products, if they're so keen on using Denuvo.
The people who're running around denying the problem help no one.

I seen someone mentioned the server outages soooo

[Clown Reemus]

Messaggio originale di ZiffyHead:

I could be wrong, but when they consistently "forget" to put Denuvo in the demo, I have to ask myself if there is a reason to keep it out, like a performance hit or an intermittent issue?

Why do they constantly "forget" to put it in demos?

I mean after the 3rd time you'd think that it would be an official part of the software test matrix and if it isn't, the manager needs to be replaced, so it almost seems purposeful instead of forgetful.

But why?

Maybe it's just marketing not wanting anti-Denuvo threads before release and marketing decided that these threads will take more sales than pirates so they left it out on purpose knowing it would lead to piracy but ultimately by leaving it out they lose less sales?

This is probably the only good question in the whole series of these threads. There are several possibilities, from technical issues that no one wants to solve to sheer human stupidity which confirms David Hume's axiom on the lack of induction.

If you ask me, I think the most logical answer is the lack of induction - the companies involved with Denuvo just don't expect their stupid demos to be cracked to allow for a whole game activation. As such, every time they release a demo for a game with Denuvo, when they ask themselves/the managers "do we need to put Denuvo on the demo" and everyone is like "nah, unnecessary hussle". And the result is a yet another Denuvo bypass.

But, personally, I'd be also interested in hearing from the insiders as to why this isn't a thing. It doesn't seem to be any kind of trade secret, the reasoning behind not putting Denuvo on demos, so they should be able to share it, if asked through proper channels. As of the moment, it's entirely mind boggling, whether it's technical or human factor.

[Kaldaien]

Messaggio originale di Dystopia Now:

Messaggio originale di Kaldaien:

Paying customers get patches. Your statement will be a true one when we're fairly confident ATLUS has stopped patching the game.

I have the better product, frankly. Bought it on Microsoft Store, and I can play it on my Xbox Series X or PC. Same price as Steam, but two platforms.

The xbox store DRM is literally worst then denuvo itself. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KiJWfhaaSY0&pp=ygUgbWljcm9zZnQgc3RvcmUgd29yc3QgdGhlbiBkZW51dm8%3D

Yeah, that's ignorance is all.
It's easy to modify Microsoft Store games.

Same stupid claims were made about Denuvo when it was new. Meanwhile, those modding games have zero problems.

[Kaldaien]

Messaggio originale di Dystopia Now:

Messaggio originale di Kaldaien:

Yeah, that's ignorance is all.
It's easy to modify Microsoft Store games.

Same stupid claims were made about Denuvo when it was new. Meanwhile, those modding games have zero problems.

No problems? Like, your mod with crushed blacks and made the camera in the game spin non-stop?

At this point, I don't know WTF you're even talking about.
It's like you're autistic and just heard a few words, but don't know what they mean, but you've gotta use them in a sentence anyway.

Since you have no idea what crushed black means, allow me to explain something to you. This game uses an sRGB SwapChain, that means it writes linear values to its framebuffer. If anything, the lack of gamma will cause the image to be very bright.

Moreover, there's a linear segment in sRGB that raises luminance near-black. That's the opposite of crushing black.

[lpostini]

denuvo is not been cracked just bypassed. pirates still have to play with bugs

[BEEP!]

Messaggio originale di lpostini:

denuvoi is not ben cracked just bypassed. pirates still have to play with bugs

No no they don't there's another bypass that stays up to date with the game & I'm not talking about the demo.exe bypass there's a launcher bypass abusing the token system it's been around for a very long time.

It's in simple terms a launcher bypass & a denuvo bypass abusing multiple systems of both the launcher & denuvo tokens together.