No raytracing Options on AMD

[CzK666]

Thanks for nothing. Dont tell me it wont work, while Nvidia cards are struggling because they have not enough vram.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

Yes 7900xtx is like RTX 4090 but a lot cheaper. And now according to rumors RX 9700XT will be faster than 4090 but also a lot cheaper and with much less watt consumption!

sorry to burst your bubble, but thats simply not true

[stardust]

Originally posted by Yoshimatsu414:

Originally posted by ttv/senakeito:

I played CP2077 max settings, Path tracing, RT maxed out on 1440P and got over 100fps with 7900xtx. What are you talking about.

In Indiana Jones supreme settings 1440p, I get 130 fps. That's with no FSR support or any time of frame gen. 7900xtx might not be able to beat 4080 super in RT performance. But gives you over 100fps.

Lol that clown called 7900XT and 7900XTX "low level" GPU. Even though it's not usually the case, 7900XTX is faster then a RTX 4090 in a few games, Call of Duty games are one of those examples. Outside of those examples, they are close enough, very capable GPUs while costing a lot less.

LMAO 4090 is much faster in games. Yes you will find a handful games being a bit faster on a 7900xtx but that's like 0.00001% of all games. Also, in pure RT 4090 is like 200-500% faster depending on the game. So yes, 7900xtx is a cuck low budget card.

[stardust]

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

Yes 7900xtx is like RTX 4090 but a lot cheaper. And now according to rumors RX 9700XT will be faster than 4090 but also a lot cheaper and with much less watt consumption!

Not a chance. 9700XT is a budget 500 usd card. Will probably be on par with 7900xt or alike. Not even the top 9000 series card will manage to beat 4090 in pure ray tracing.

[AngelGraves13]

Even the 4090 can't run PT at 60 fps at 4K maxed with DLSS.

Also water does not have RT reflections.

[Rastlaff]

Can understand that propaganda shouting out loud the RTX4090 is wonderful, if I was throwing my money to something that was not worth the price, I would persuade myself I did good and would probably drag people into my doom.

I wasn't going for a 4090, but for a 4080 for quite a time = 10 days until refund (EU laws are nice on that : 15 days to test something). Can't tell, but one thing I'm confused about it's the volume AMD cards are giving to visuals. With all NVidia cards to date it has always been ... a bit flat & blurry (but with a bit of a better speed, that is for sure).

And no, 7800XT & 7900XT/XTX are totally capable of doing wonders on RT/PT, especially with 16 / 20 / 24 Gb of Vram respectively.

Anyway, it's easy to notice the difference between AMD & NVidia : just look at their respective blogs and see how open AMD is and how secretive is Nvidia. If I've got something good to show, I won't hide behind fancy advertisement words, I explain with actual math.

https://gpuopen.com/learn/neural_supersampling_and_denoising_for_real-time_path_tracing/

[stardust]

Originally posted by Rastlaff:

Can understand that propaganda shouting out loud the RTX4090 is wonderful, if I was throwing my money to something that was not worth the price, I would persuade myself I did good and would probably drag people into my doom.

I wasn't going for a 4090, but for a 4080 for quite a time = 10 days until refund (EU laws are nice on that : 15 days to test something). Can't tell, but one thing I'm confused about it's the volume AMD cards are giving to visuals. With all NVidia cards to date it has always been ... a bit flat & blurry (but with a bit of a better speed, that is for sure).

And no, 7800XT & 7900XT/XTX are totally capable of doing wonders on RT/PT, especially with 16 / 20 / 24 Gb of Vram respectively.

Anyway, it's easy to notice the difference between AMD & NVidia : just look at their respective blogs and see how open AMD is and how secretive is Nvidia. If I've got something good to show, I won't hide behind fancy advertisement words, I explain with actual math.

https://gpuopen.com/learn/neural_supersampling_and_denoising_for_real-time_path_tracing/

that's simply not true. AMD 7000 series GPUs aren't even on par with NV 3000 series cards in terms of PURE, FULL RT. Just look at the 3D mark full RT benchmark. It's not even close.

[PostalGibbon]

Now is the best time in the year to write to Santa and wish a present rtx4090.
Those who have been salty or naughty do not bother Santa does not read those letters.

[SHREDDER]

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

Now is the best time in the year to write to Santa and wish a present rtx4090.
Those who have been salty or naughty do not bother Santa does not read those letters.

yesterday i went with my girlfriend and 2 of my friends to a christmas event and we wrote to santa. But i didnt asked him about pc components because i have unlimited money and buy evrything i want when i want it. Iam not cray to spent 2300 eu ros that the cheapest RTX 4090 costs.l Especialy when in few days amd and nvidia will release rtx 50 and rx 9000 that will be much more powerful than RTX 4090 but alot cheaper. According to rumors 9700xt will be more powerful than RTX 4080 super but at the price and consumption of mine RX 6700XT.
And i still run all games maxed 1440p 60 fps which means that the only reaosn to get one of those new cards will be to sayon the forums that ihave one of the best cards and not because ir ealy need it

[Carighan]

Originally posted by CzK666:

Thanks for nothing. Dont tell me it wont work, while Nvidia cards are struggling because they have not enough vram.

Oh so you played all those other games doing path-tracing on vulcan? How did they perform? And while we're at it, I'd love to check them out, can you tell me of some for my next games to play?

[oldeschool]

This is an Xbox game which is AMD based (zen2 at that) and supports RT, I assume their license agreement with NVIDIA disables this feature on the PC port.

[Krustenkäse]

Originally posted by stardust:

Originally posted by CzK666:

Thanks for nothing. Dont tell me it wont work, while Nvidia cards are struggling because they have not enough vram.

FULL RT won't work on AMD low level GPUs like the 7900XT and 7900XTX, just look at CP2077 with PT, the framerate goes to single digits. Absolutely NO ONE should buy AMD cards if you are interested in RT or PT, simple fact. For this game to be enjoyable in it's full glory go for a 4090 or at least a 4080 SUPER.

Least Intelligent Nvidia Fanboy lmao.
Imagine calling the 7900XT and XTX low level. They outperform the 4070Ti and 4080 Super respectively.

Cant compare them to the 4090. Its double the price of the XTX. Fanboys sucking Nvidia ♥♥♥♥ is so annoying.

[Carighan]

Originally posted by CzK666:

Thats what I'm talking about.

Was easy to misunderstand though, since you explicitly said raytracing in the title.

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Krustenkäse:

Imagine calling the 7900XT and XTX low level. They outperform the 4070Ti and 4080 Super respectively.

In raster-performance, yes. There the 7900 XTX can sometimes come close to the RTX 4090, especially below 4k. Overall it reaches around 80% of the 4090's performance and beats the 7900 XT by 12 to 15% and overall at least beats the 4070 Ti Super.

With ray-tracing it's a different story. There the 7900 XTX often even falls behind the 4070 Ti and is 40 to 50% slower than an RTX 4090 and only less than 10% faster than the 7900 XT which falls behind the 4070 Super.

These number come from a re-test by German magazine PCGH from Mach 2024. Older reviews by sites like Tom's Hardware show similar results.

[SHREDDER]

tHE TRUTH is that if you have 6700xt or better like me then you dont need RX 7900XT or 4090 or the new RTX 50 ans RX 9000 that will rleease in few fays because i still run all gamesm axed 1440p 60 fps and the pc has very good graphics on evrything(movies, games, series internet, programs).

[stardust]

Originally posted by Krustenkäse:

Originally posted by stardust:

FULL RT won't work on AMD low level GPUs like the 7900XT and 7900XTX, just look at CP2077 with PT, the framerate goes to single digits. Absolutely NO ONE should buy AMD cards if you are interested in RT or PT, simple fact. For this game to be enjoyable in it's full glory go for a 4090 or at least a 4080 SUPER.

Least Intelligent Nvidia Fanboy lmao.
Imagine calling the 7900XT and XTX low level. They outperform the 4070Ti and 4080 Super respectively.

Cant compare them to the 4090. Its double the price of the XTX. Fanboys sucking Nvidia ♥♥♥♥ is so annoying.

Nope. 7900XTX is WAY behind in pure RT and PT performance of a 4080. Just look at the DXR pure RT test of 3D mark. Don't take it with me, take it with the data.