Was gonna buy this till I found out RT is required

[Crazytrain334]

I am sick of comapnies freaking forcing ray tracing down consumers freaking throughts hey guess what im on a 1060 id like to beable to enjoy the damn games to thanks bethesda thats two now I cant even freaking load

[Infected Mushroom]

Originally posted by Crazytrain334:

I am sick of comapnies freaking forcing ray tracing down consumers freaking throughts hey guess what im on a 1060 id like to beable to enjoy the damn games to thanks bethesda thats two now I cant even freaking load

You're on a nearly 10 year old card
If you want the console experience.. buy a console.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Crazytrain334:

I am sick of comapnies freaking forcing ray tracing down consumers freaking throughts hey guess what im on a 1060 id like to beable to enjoy the damn games to thanks bethesda thats two now I cant even freaking load

1060 in nearly 2025.... are you for real...?

[Fox93]

Apparently it doesn't work on the GTX 1070, I saw it on YouTube. That requirement seems stupid to me and it should be optional like 99% of games

[Infected Mushroom]

Just going to load this on a xbox 360 and hope for the best = OP

[Last Jackdaw]

Income inequality has its drawbacks, huh?

I have a 4080 super and own my own home (no mortgage).

[Cheeze Wizard]

This game runs on the Doom Eternal engine and is pretty well optimized.

Six issues with your stance here.

1) You have graphics hardware worse than what is offered on current consoles and are trying to run a major AAA release. The cross gen period is over and games will start assuming feature support that matches consoles, which means SSDs and RT. Doom the Dark Ages will most likely require one or both as well.
2) You have a lower end mid rangish card from 8 years ago whose VRAM requirements alone with make it struggle to run most games today regardless of feature support, you weren't gonna enjoy it regardless of if it had RT, the GTX 1080 is a dead card at this point let alone the 1060.
3) A majority of people on steam lean towards less demanding titles like CS and such, but even then a vast majority of video cards on steam are an RTX 2060 or better. The most popular cards are the RTX 3060 and RTX 4060 respectively. You are in a minority here.
4) You have clearly never seen the forum arguments online when DX11 came out and the lengthy cross period between DX9 cards and DX11 cards if you think RT is gonna go away just because some loud annoying people on the internet refuse to upgrade.
5) Can literally find listings on ebay for a RTX 2060 Super which could run this game for less than $50 USD. If that is too much for you than maybe you need to spend less of your time complaining about not being able to run the latest releases on hardware coming up on a decade old and more time trying to get some money in your pocket.
6) The game's cpu requirements are firmly mid range options that would have been available around the time the 2060 came out, as the minimum spec is clearly targeting an entry level gaming PC from 2018 or later. (6 years ago btw) I am not saying it is impossible naturally have a newer cpu than GPU, but generally the GPU in the build is gonna be newer. What I'm saying is your cpu has no chance running this game either.

[SunBeam]

I swear I don't get all the naysaers blaming everything on the fact that we have old tech. The developers clearly code the game with RTX in mind. That's that. No need to go into why I don't want to spend money now (yeah, even 1$ I don't wanna spend) to play 1 single game that asks for RTX up-front. When sales will dwindle, we'll perhaps see an alternative compiled executable for non-RTX. Let's wait and see...

P.S.: "income inequality" my 4rs3.. I prefer spending 3K $ on traveling around the world than buying an airplane of a PC to gloat on Steam forums T_T.. Spare me..

[Veraxus]

Originally posted by Fox93:

Apparently it doesn't work on the GTX 1070, I saw it on YouTube. That requirement seems stupid to me and it should be optional like 99% of games

It's going to be the standard going forward. With technologies like Lumen and realtime global illumination (which is relatively "inexpensive" performance-wise, btw) this is what videogames are going to need from now on.

You also have to remember that "ray tracing" is a very broad term/technique used in a wide variety of other technologies and techniques. It's not always shadows and high-fidelity reflections.

[Cheeze Wizard]

Originally posted by SunBeam:

I swear I don't get all the naysaers blaming everything on the fact that we have old tech. The developers clearly code the game with RTX in mind. That's that. No need to go into why I don't want to spend money now (yeah, even 1$ I don't wanna spend) to play 1 single game that asks for RTX up-front. When sales will dwindle, we'll perhaps see an alternative compiled executable for non-RTX. Let's wait and see...

That isn't how it works. When RTX is required that is because the lighting is replaced in part by it rather than RTX being a layer added on like in optional titles. Games like Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and Spider-Man 2 work the same way and as a result allow for much more optimization of RT than if it was an addon layer.

[Finkledbody]

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

Income inequality has its drawbacks, huh?

I have a 4080 super and own my own home (no mortgage).

Peasant. What u can’t afford the 4090?

[Infected Mushroom]

Originally posted by SunBeam:

I swear I don't get all the naysaers blaming everything on the fact that we have old tech. The developers clearly code the game with RTX in mind. That's that. No need to go into why I don't want to spend money now (yeah, even 1$ I don't wanna spend) to play 1 single game that asks for RTX up-front. When sales will dwindle, we'll perhaps see an alternative compiled executable for non-RTX. Let's wait and see...

Gaming has always been a luxury
If you can't upgrade a card as old as the 10 series it's your own fault not the rest of us who want cutting edge. Bad enough we're marred by console generations, but then we have people who run systems so old they're older than consoles themselves. It's a you problem.

[Cheeze Wizard]

Originally posted by SunBeam:

I swear I don't get all the naysaers blaming everything on the fact that we have old tech. The developers clearly code the game with RTX in mind. That's that. No need to go into why I don't want to spend money now (yeah, even 1$ I don't wanna spend) to play 1 single game that asks for RTX up-front. When sales will dwindle, we'll perhaps see an alternative compiled executable for non-RTX. Let's wait and see...

P.S.: "income inequality" my 4rs3.. I prefer spending 3K $ on traveling around the world than buying an airplane of a PC to gloat on Steam forums T_T.. Spare me..

Literally buy a console. Modern games need relatively modern hardware. Six years is pretty standard.

[SunBeam]

Originally posted by Cheeze Wizard:

...

I was able to play the Metro Exodus (not the Enhanced version, sure) and Spider-Man 2 without any issues. On two non-RTX GPUs. If other devs can, why not Machine Games? We'll see how they do in selling this game... how all their hard work and effort is repaid in refunds.

[Last Jackdaw]

Originally posted by Finkledbody:

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

Income inequality has its drawbacks, huh?

I have a 4080 super and own my own home (no mortgage).

Peasant. What u can’t afford the 4090?

I want a 5080 but i think it will be out of my justification range once the tarrifs/trade wars hit next year :(

[Cheeze Wizard]

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

Income inequality has its drawbacks, huh?

I have a 4080 super and own my own home (no mortgage).

Only impressive if you have kids and single income. Also at that point save for another month and get a 4090.