Anyone with 5700 XT?

[Deathwing1306]

Or something similar like 2070 Super?

How is the game running for you guys? is it worth to buy when I have 5700 XT? I don't mind FSR or FG and I want to play on 1080p.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by fourfourtwo79:

There are also Nvidia cards still that don't have RT hardware, the entire Pascal range (GTX 1050-1080), and some Turing cards (GTX 1650, 1660). So it's not a case of Nvidia vs AMD. But rather one of RT or no RT. Both AMD as well as Nvidia haven't produced gaming cards without Raytracing for ~half a decade. Intel's Arc always had it.

However, even on Steam, it's a minority who still use such cards. And that's hardly a triple-A gaming / high tech bubble. Plot twist: I've got one still too, but I was always going to upgrade -- my GPU is REALLY old now (released 2016, longest I've EVER had).

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

But my GPU is much faster than 16xx or 10xx, my 5700 xt is on par with 2070 Super which already supports RT.

I can easily play games like gow ragnarok or tlou part 1 on uktra settings with fsr on native and fg on, smooth af experience in other words lol.

2070 Super is about 15% faster, so not quite on par. That said, it doesn't have the hardware for RT acceleration. You'll just have to upgrade to something that does or not play the game.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

But my GPU is much faster than 16xx or 10xx, my 5700 xt is on par with 2070 Super which already supports RT.

I can easily play games like gow ragnarok or tlou part 1 on uktra settings with fsr on native and fg on, smooth af experience in other words lol.

2070 Super is about 15% faster, so not quite on par. That said, it doesn't have the hardware for RT acceleration. You'll just have to upgrade to something that does or not play the game.

https://youtu.be/QMBQF_UjIk0?si=YjZCopgPPSwJMQks

Are you sure?

I can still play newest games on my GPU, some even on ultra (tlou, gow ragnarok, horizon fw), some UE5 games do not really behave well on ultra, but medium is more than enough (wukong, lords of the fallen, remnant 2, even broken stalker 2 works quite decently) so no, I don't need to upgrade my hardware, developers should upgrade their optimization knowledge instead.

[Stevoid]

I used to have one yeah but I hated the thing, those hotspot temps are not fun. Have a 7800XT now and sit at 27c and highest temp i have seen is 66c

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Stevoid:

I used to have one yeah but I hated the thing, those hotspot temps are not fun. Have a 7800XT now and sit at 27c and highest temp i have seen is 66c

I sometimes hit about 90°C, but there is nothing wrong with it because the maximum operating temperature for this card is 110°C.

They are known for hitting high temps, but sometimes I play even for like 6-8 hours nonstop and the card is perfectly fine. I own this card since November 2020 and it's amazing to this day, it depends on FSR and FG now, but for 1080p gaming you don't really need something crazy.

[fourfourtwo79]

I could still play Elden Ring on a seven years old entry level GPU. But ray and path tracing are here to stay, it's going to be standard not just for this game. This is not a question of if, but of when. It has advantages for game developers as wel, after all.

On the plus side of hardware market madness, for the price used 5700 XTs are still going, you could almost get an entry level RT card -- over here at least. The price of old GPUs is way over the top in general, all things considered (including the years of use). Not gonna complain when I'm gonna sell my ancient 2016 entry level GPU though -- still for almost ~50% of the price I got it back then, except brand NEW, which is insane. :-D

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by fourfourtwo79:

I could still play Elden Ring on a seven years old entry level GPU. But ray and path tracing are here to stay, it's going to be standard not just for this game. This is not a question of if, but of when. It has advantages for game developers as wel, after all.

On the plus side, ror the price used 5700 XTs are still going, you could almost get an entry level RT card -- over here at least. The price of old hardware is way over the top in general, all things considered (including the years of use).

RT has always been a side thing, there is literally no need for it to be a crucial thing you need to play a game.

Some people don't want to play with it anyways because they want to play the game on comfortable fps for example.

[longjohn119]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by Warriors993:

Me, but the game not work because the rx 5700 XT not support ray tracing.
Wait patch or mod, o u Need change gpu

Oh, well that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a game lol.

There are fewer AMD users out there, but there are A LOT of them still, so they might easily lose like 30% of players because of this. What were they smoking while thinking about this lol.

AMD 6000 and 7000 series support Ray Tracing ..... Not as well as Nvidia but still there is support.

Both modern consoles support Ray Tracing and I hate to break it to you but we are likely to see more of this in the future because it's just easier to not have to do Global Illumination twice, once with Screen Space and once with Ray Tracing plus you can get better Ray Tracing performance by making the game strictly RTGI without making compromises by having to have SSGI too.

In a couple of months we are going to see AMD's 3rd generation and Nvidia's 4th generation of Ray Tracing GPUs. Time marches on and so does technology

[tarmo888]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

2070 Super is about 15% faster, so not quite on par. That said, it doesn't have the hardware for RT acceleration. You'll just have to upgrade to something that does or not play the game.

https://youtu.be/QMBQF_UjIk0?si=YjZCopgPPSwJMQks

Are you sure?

I can still play newest games on my GPU, some even on ultra (tlou, gow ragnarok, horizon fw), some UE5 games do not really behave well on ultra, but medium is more than enough (wukong, lords of the fallen, remnant 2, even broken stalker 2 works quite decently) so no, I don't need to upgrade my hardware, developers should upgrade their optimization knowledge instead.

It has nothing to do with the performance or optimization, RX 5700 XT just missing hardware and software that latest games need. Optimization doesn't add missing hardware.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by tarmo888:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

https://youtu.be/QMBQF_UjIk0?si=YjZCopgPPSwJMQks

Are you sure?

I can still play newest games on my GPU, some even on ultra (tlou, gow ragnarok, horizon fw), some UE5 games do not really behave well on ultra, but medium is more than enough (wukong, lords of the fallen, remnant 2, even broken stalker 2 works quite decently) so no, I don't need to upgrade my hardware, developers should upgrade their optimization knowledge instead.

It has nothing to do with the performance or optimization, RX 5700 XT just missing hardware and software that latest games need. Optimization doesn't add missing hardware.

Like I said, I can literally play anything quite comfortably even with my already outdated card, why does this game refuse to be played with my gpu when most likely my card is still enough for the game? maybe not on max settings, but medium might work.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by tarmo888:

It has nothing to do with the performance or optimization, RX 5700 XT just missing hardware and software that latest games need. Optimization doesn't add missing hardware.

Like I said, I can literally play anything quite comfortably even with my already outdated card, why does this game refuse to be played with my gpu when most likely my card is still enough for the game? maybe not on max settings, but medium might work.

This has already been explained to you. Your GPU literally lacks the hardware required for this game. You can't play Metro Exodus Enhanced either.

[Fox93]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by Warriors993:

Me, but the game not work because the rx 5700 XT not support ray tracing.
Wait patch or mod, o u Need change gpu

Oh, well that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a game lol.

There are fewer AMD users out there, but there are A LOT of them still, so they might easily lose like 30% of players because of this. What were they smoking while thinking about this lol.

I saw one with a 5600xt, a 4 year old gpu doesn't work either.
gtx 10, and maybe 16 series doesn't work. but here are people who defend planned obsolescence

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Like I said, I can literally play anything quite comfortably even with my already outdated card, why does this game refuse to be played with my gpu when most likely my card is still enough for the game? maybe not on max settings, but medium might work.

This has already been explained to you. Your GPU literally lacks the hardware required for this game. You can't play Metro Exodus Enhanced either.

It has been explained to me, but I still have no idea why would anyone do something like this, Metro Exodus also comes with the classic version which works perfectly fine, but Indiana Jones doesn't come with anything.

I can understand that devs are putting their hands away from 4GB or lower VRAM GPUs or that they are purely focusing on new gen consoles, but I have no idea why still quite decent GPU for 1080p gaming isn't enough for the game. You can explain it to me how much you want, but to me this is just a stupid step from the devs because they will lose a lot of players because of this. My GPU is just 5 years old which is still quite decent, I can play literally anything (except Indiana Jones) on comfortable frame rate. If my GPU was like 10 years old, alright I can understand that, but it's just 5 years and it's not that much, RTX 4090 is 2 years old for example and that card can play any games on 1080p until like 2030 on max settings lol.

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[ClickBrick]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

This has already been explained to you. Your GPU literally lacks the hardware required for this game. You can't play Metro Exodus Enhanced either.

It has been explained to me, but I still have no idea why would anyone do something like this, Metro Exodus also comes with the classic version which works perfectly fine, but Indiana Jones doesn't come with anything.

I can understand that devs are putting their hands away from 4GB or lower VRAM GPUs or that they are purely focusing on new gen consoles, but I have no idea why still quite decent GPU for 1080p gaming isn't enough for the game. You can explain it to me how much you want, but to me this is just a stupid step from the devs because they will lose a lot of players because of this. My GPU is just 5 years old which is still quite decent, I can play literally anything (except Indiana Jones) on comfortable frame rate. If my GPU was like 10 years old, alright I can understand that, but it's just 5 years and it's not that much, RTX 4090 is 2 years old for example and that card can play any games on 1080p until like 2030 on max settings lol.

I have the same GPU and am heartbroken that I can’t play the game. I am praying that they release a patch soon. All I want is for them to take my money. Is that so hard?

[willwar13]

this thread has gone bananas - plan and simple if you no have ray tracing card ,,you cant play get over it and hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha