Ray-Tracing ONLY??!?!?!?

[QUAKETALLICA]

WTF were they thinking?

I was excited to play this through Game Pass. It doesn't tell you until after the massive 120 GB download that, oh BY THE WAY you have to have hardware ray-tracing GPU or the game doesn't even work, at all.

I mean, what? I have never heard of anything else ever asking something so ridiculous. Complete lack of support for anybody with lower end hardware? And I say "lower end" in massive quotes there, because I'm able to run most other games of the last year or two still at high graphics at 60 FPS at 1080p full HD with a GTX 1060 (provided they're well optimized...Stalker 2 doesn't count). Even if I had to play on low settings to run it, I don't mind because even today's "low" settings is still graphically very impressive.

But nevermind saying "intended for ray tracing" or whatever, no you can't even start up the game at all unless you have at minimum 2060. Sheesh. It's one thing to have terrible performance, but to not even let you run the .exe? Dang that's a new level of rejection.

From gameplay videos, it doesn't even look like gameplay, the faces looks so photo-realistic I thought I was looking at a movie. Scary good textures and modeling. Too bad the entire thing is unplayable now because of their focus on elitist hardware.

And the funniest part is, it looks worse with "path-tracing" on anyway. Not that I had even heard of path-tracing before this game. It's an ultra ray tracing where the graphics are 100% ray-tracing and nothing else, whereas before they were a mix of normal graphics rendering and ray tracing.

[Ted]

Originally posted by Pork Hunt:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

"Spending money makes me serious at my hobby!"

Car guys laughing uproariously in the background. You are the guy who is off to the side, wanting to take part.

You really are fishing for those jester awards.

They are baiting people for a reaction, to drag them into wasting their time with inane nonsense. Or they are baiting people for angry reactions they can report to try to get people banned.

Best to just ignore/block

[cinnatusc]

Originally posted by Dagtag:

this is a problem you yourself created by not looking at the minimum requirements.

also, what is elitist about requiring aq SIX YEAR OLD GPU?

I have a 350 Ti from Nvidia, which supposedly meets the requirements, and I spent far too much time just trying to play the damn game. I did get it working, got as far as the Himilayas, and then the main menu wouldn't load. Worse, the second update came along and now it doesn't play, period, simply refusing to allocate the video memory, no matter what I do.

I've updated and rolled back drivers, used mods, went in and adjusted my virtual RAM settings, done everything short of add an external GPU and it won't play. I have no problems with other modern AAA games.

Fortunately I'm in the market for an upgrade anyway, but this has been a deeply frustrating experience, especially because I've had a difficult two weeks and was really looking forward to screwing around in ruins.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by cinnatusc:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

this is a problem you yourself created by not looking at the minimum requirements.

also, what is elitist about requiring aq SIX YEAR OLD GPU?

I have a 350 Ti from Nvidia, which supposedly meets the requirements, and I spent far too much time just trying to play the damn game. I did get it working, got as far as the Himilayas, and then the main menu wouldn't load. Worse, the second update came along and now it doesn't play, period, simply refusing to allocate the video memory, no matter what I do.

I've updated and rolled back drivers, used mods, went in and adjusted my virtual RAM settings, done everything short of add an external GPU and it won't play. I have no problems with other modern AAA games.

Fortunately I'm in the market for an upgrade anyway, but this has been a deeply frustrating experience, especially because I've had a difficult two weeks and was really looking forward to screwing around in ruins.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3050-Ti-Laptop-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super/m1559532vs4049

WHY on Earth do you think your GPU meets minimum....?
That one is a insane low tier Laptop GPU with 4gb vram

[Britt]

Originally posted by Ted:

Sigh... another one.

If you cant afford to upgrade you GPU more frequently than every half a decade, perhaps PC gaming isn't for you and it is time to invest in a console instead?

The ray tracing really requirement really is a poor choice because it's not really NECESSARY, its a bell and/or whistle. We're not talking VRAM or processing power here

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by Britt:

Originally posted by Ted:

Sigh... another one.

If you cant afford to upgrade you GPU more frequently than every half a decade, perhaps PC gaming isn't for you and it is time to invest in a console instead?

The ray tracing really requirement really is a poor choice because it's not really NECESSARY, its a bell and/or whistle. We're not talking VRAM or processing power here

Same thing was said about physx. Same things could be said about dx12 requirements, os requirements or any other requirements.

Shadow rendering isn’t necessary, pbr materials aren’t necessary, high poly 3d models aren’t necessary. Nothing is necessary.

Technology isn’t going to be held hostage because some people don’t want to upgrade. If you want to keep your rig as is, thats fine. If you want to play new releases, thats fine. But both… well, you are bound to be left behind.

[Britt]

Dagtag, I WAS one of those people complaining about PhysX. I griped about DirectX, calling it bloatware! Half Life runs just fine, why do I need this goofy, sketchy DirectX??

...... look man I'm buying a RTX 4060ti as we speak, I just need to complain first.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by Britt:

Dagtag, I WAS one of those people complaining about PhysX. I griped about DirectX, calling it bloatware! Half Life runs just fine, why do I need this goofy, sketchy DirectX??

...... look man I'm buying a RTX 4060ti as we speak, I just need to complain first.

i mean fair, i guess. its just not something you can stop. and I assume you too have seen improvements from this technological advancement.

its also very hard to notice the contributions of a technique when looking at it on a very small scale.

What i can tell you is that RT is likely going to be more widespread in the future and might replace rasterisation alltogether. of course we aren't there yet, but i do see the industry moving to that point somewhere in the near future.

[ko]

The future is now, old man.

Imagine complaining about an RT requirement in 2024, when RT capable cards go back as far as the RTX 20X0 series of cards.

[Britt]

I kinda thought about upgrading my video card for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, but I was trying to be a good boy and save money cause I spent a bunch of it going to Turkiye and Poland and owe a lot of debt. Need to pay that debt. But I guess I'm getting this card first.

Merry Christmas everyone.

[Brent]

Originally posted by ko:

The future is now, old man.

Imagine complaining about an RT requirement in 2024, when RT capable cards go back as far as the RTX 20X0 series of cards.

Imagine defending this ♥♥♥♥? Decades of progress on efficient rendering technology thrown out of the window in favor of dumbest rendering tech straight from the 60s! In a game with completely static environments and lighting no less. Woke swedistani snots showed everyone again how mentally handicapped they are.

[Tuna Wrap]

just play it on cloud gaming with game pass ultimate, that's what im doing and it's pretty good, got no noticeable input lag and the quality is good too.

[srgtlord]

I had the same experience. 120Gb and 2 hours later I discovered ray-tracing as a requirement. There should be an option to turn off this requirement as there are many systems that can play modern games without ray-tracing. This for me will be the point where I stop playing PC games as I cannot justify the cost of a $400 gfx card

[Spectral.Dragon]

Originally posted by srgtlord:

I had the same experience. 120Gb and 2 hours later I discovered ray-tracing as a requirement. There should be an option to turn off this requirement as there are many systems that can play modern games without ray-tracing. This for me will be the point where I stop playing PC games as I cannot justify the cost of a $400 gfx card

It's not justified, even Geforce Now keep the RT disabled by default on 4080. Again they milking their customers for a feature which will bring only 5% visuals in general. Like the fellas said in previous comments go for a cloud play or leave it, game doesn't deserve the HW upgrade.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by Spectral.Dragon:

Again they milking their customers for a feature which will bring only 5% visuals in general.

its not just about those visual improvements though, its also about an entirely different workflow that imho is far easier for developers to use.

these kind of advancements have always happened, and not as a means to "milk customers"

[Quick☢420™]

Originally posted by Britt:

Dagtag, I WAS one of those people complaining about PhysX. I griped about DirectX, calling it bloatware! Half Life runs just fine, why do I need this goofy, sketchy DirectX??

...... look man I'm buying a RTX 4060ti as we speak, I just need to complain first.

Dont buy that turd of a card dude, look for a used 3090 and profit! https://youtu.be/JUfKoGl5Ra8