Ray-Tracing ONLY??!?!?!?

[QUAKETALLICA]

WTF were they thinking?

I was excited to play this through Game Pass. It doesn't tell you until after the massive 120 GB download that, oh BY THE WAY you have to have hardware ray-tracing GPU or the game doesn't even work, at all.

I mean, what? I have never heard of anything else ever asking something so ridiculous. Complete lack of support for anybody with lower end hardware? And I say "lower end" in massive quotes there, because I'm able to run most other games of the last year or two still at high graphics at 60 FPS at 1080p full HD with a GTX 1060 (provided they're well optimized...Stalker 2 doesn't count). Even if I had to play on low settings to run it, I don't mind because even today's "low" settings is still graphically very impressive.

But nevermind saying "intended for ray tracing" or whatever, no you can't even start up the game at all unless you have at minimum 2060. Sheesh. It's one thing to have terrible performance, but to not even let you run the .exe? Dang that's a new level of rejection.

From gameplay videos, it doesn't even look like gameplay, the faces looks so photo-realistic I thought I was looking at a movie. Scary good textures and modeling. Too bad the entire thing is unplayable now because of their focus on elitist hardware.

And the funniest part is, it looks worse with "path-tracing" on anyway. Not that I had even heard of path-tracing before this game. It's an ultra ray tracing where the graphics are 100% ray-tracing and nothing else, whereas before they were a mix of normal graphics rendering and ray tracing.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by Wobim:

? Of course I didn't read it, im not denying that. My point is that they are only mentioning that on the bottom of the page among everything else. That really feels like a scam for me. So I am going to leave a bad review for that game. I wont respond to that post again now, because I really dont like any weird online discussions like that over a long time. Goodbye

every single game ever has the specs on that exact same location.... that is not what the word scam means.

the info is available, and not even hidden but right there on the storepage.

to review it negatively because you yourself could not be bothered to read is simply dishonest. you made the mistake, this is on you, not them.

but if you do plan on negatively reviewing the game, be sure to mention you didn't read the specs so everyone can see the full picture.

[GAMING_Alligator]

Originally posted by QUAKETALLICA:

I don't even think RTX is an upgrade. In every scenario I've seen it applied, it literally looks worse.

So no Indiana Jones and The Great Circle for you then. And now that one game's made raytracing mandatory expect others to follow. You might not like it, but more and more games are going to start requiring raytracing now that the line's been crossed. You have an 8 year old graphics card. That's positively ancient in computing terms. You might think it shouldn't need upgrading, but the industry disagrees with you.

That's the way it's always been with PC games. Those not willing to upgrade get left behind. No amount of complaining about it on Steam will change that.

[RogerMooreSucks]

Originally posted by Dagtag:

this is a problem you yourself created by not looking at the minimum requirements.

also, what is elitist about requiring aq SIX YEAR OLD GPU?

Having the min requirements, you would not even be able to run RTX. I don't care if it has RTX in the title of the gfx card series. Even the 300's struggled with it. Only one that can manage it is 4070 and above. So, the devs are also stupid for posting that. You are a bit condescending.

[GAMING_Alligator]

Originally posted by RogerMooreSucks:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

this is a problem you yourself created by not looking at the minimum requirements.

also, what is elitist about requiring aq SIX YEAR OLD GPU?

Having the min requirements, you would not even be able to run RTX. I don't care if it has RTX in the title of the gfx card series. Even the 300's struggled with it. Only one that can manage it is 4070 and above. So, the devs are also stupid for posting that. You are a bit condescending.

The minimum requirements are fine. And it’s a safe assumption that the devs are not stupid.

I’m running the game on an RTX 2060 Super, which is the min requirement, and can confirm it runs absolutely beautifully in 1080p with low graphics preset. No problems at all.

[Fragtoio]

How many: "You're so poor and I invested much money so I want you to do that too" hardware white knight comments?

[Britt]

Installed my new power supply unit and rtx 4060 ti, everything looks great and all that but.. yeah i wouldn't say ray tracing should be mandatory. I have other hobbies too ya know

[RedSeptember]

*laughs in 4090*

[GAMING_Alligator]

Originally posted by Fragtoio:

How many: "You're so poor and I invested much money so I want you to do that too" hardware white knight comments?

I feel sorry for you if you're poor, but it's not my fault, and I don't see why it should stop me from enjoying the game with my hardware that's capable of playing it.

That's capitalism for you. The world doesn't owe you a living, or a good computer.

[Mav99]

Originally posted by RogerMooreSucks:

Having the min requirements, you would not even be able to run RTX. I don't care if it has RTX in the title of the gfx card series. Even the 300's struggled with it. Only one that can manage it is 4070 and above. So, the devs are also stupid for posting that. You are a bit condescending.

You're both right and also very wrong:
The game uses a basic global illumination system that uses hardware ray-tracing to sample a limited number of points across the screen. That runs fine even on XBox and on pretty much any card that supports it like almost all nVidia RTX cards, AMD 6000+ or Intel Arc.

In addition to that, the game offers per pixel path-tracing. THAT does indeed only work on very fast cards like nVidia RTX 4070 or better but it's completely optional and can be configured to lighten the load a bit.

Btw., "RTX" is an nVidia brand name. Short for ray-tracing is just RT. ;)

[Carighan]

Originally posted by Mav99:

The game uses a basic global illumination system that uses hardware ray-tracing to sample a limited number of points across the screen. That runs fine even on XBox and on pretty much any card that supports it like almost all nVidia RTX cards, AMD 6000+ or Intel Arc.

In addition to that, the game offers per pixel path-tracing. THAT does indeed only work on very fast cards like nVidia RTX 4070 or better but it's completely optional and can be configured to lighten the load a bit.

It's funny how many of the tourists whining on the forums don't get this basic difference. 😅

[BoostBlitzen]

The game was designed with certain hardware requirements. This has been a thing since the inception of PC gaming. If you want to play it, you need newer hardware. It's no different than every other piece of software that exists. How else do you think we advance in the gaming industry as far as graphical fidelity goes?

[Y_B_A_FOOL]

Originally posted by BoostBlitzen:

The game was designed with certain hardware requirements. This has been a thing since the inception of PC gaming. If you want to play it, you need newer hardware. It's no different than every other piece of software that exists. How else do you think we advance in the gaming industry as far as graphical fidelity goes?

The game works on Deck and it has no hardware raytracing. The Steam Deck leverages an open source Vulkan pipeline to render RT via software. The game runs on Vulkan, really there is no excuse.

The dev's intentionally implemented a HW requirement for RT as this is an Nvidia sponsored title.

[Tmangus]

Originally posted by Y_B_A_FOOL:

Originally posted by BoostBlitzen:

The game was designed with certain hardware requirements. This has been a thing since the inception of PC gaming. If you want to play it, you need newer hardware. It's no different than every other piece of software that exists. How else do you think we advance in the gaming industry as far as graphical fidelity goes?

The game works on Deck and it has no hardware raytracing. The Steam Deck leverages an open source Vulkan pipeline to render RT via software. The game runs on Vulkan, really there is no excuse.

The dev's intentionally implemented a HW requirement for RT as this is an Nvidia sponsored title.

Are you sure it runs on deck? Did you try it on deck? Or just read it? I’m not convinced. Sorry dude

[Carighan]

Originally posted by Tmangus:

Are you sure it runs on deck? Did you try it on deck? Or just read it? I’m not convinced. Sorry dude

Yeah they def just read about it on Twatter or Reddit or so. No way someone posting that way went through the tinkering to get it work (and it runs pretty meh at that, but then what can you expect of the Deck hardware which isn't exactly new any more, it runs better than I expected it to tbh).

[Y_B_A_FOOL]

Originally posted by Tmangus:

Are you sure it runs on deck? Did you try it on deck? Or just read it? I’m not convinced. Sorry dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KeAiaePJf8

Zero RT hardware on the Steam Deck, game runs fine.

The devs went out of their way to create this issue, Doom Eternal did not have this problem. Hopefully the Nvidia sponsor was worth it cause they are absolutely loosing sales over this issue.