"that scene" in Shanghai

[Poto_Oil]

Easily beats the Crystal Skull fridge scene, in terms of sublime disregard for realism

[Shrinkshooter]

"sublime" isn't the word I'd use.

It's acceptable to give concessions to things that are a bit stupid in the name of silly fun. That scene went way beyond that. All that plane nonsense was so stupid it was just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abominably idiotic.

If you want to give a flight simmer a conniption, show them that

[katzenkrimis]

Indiana Jones has been entirely implausible from the start.

Not sure why every day someone is bringing realism arguments to this forum.

It's been over-the-top action and slapstick comedy since 1981.

If you think this game's story is bad, watch Dial of Destiny. It's the most absurd of the lot. They do exactly what this game does, only worse. They don't just teleport, they time travel.

In Dial of Destiny they time travel to ancient Greece during the Siege of Syracuse.

213-212 BC.

Nothing tops that in film if you want to talk about realism.

[Shrinkshooter]

Realism != believability. Zombies are not realistic ever, but they are completely believable within the bounds of stories told about them so long as the worldbuilding remains consistent with its own established rules.

Indy being implausible is fine and expected. You would expect plenty of "that is very unlikely to ever happen" many times in an Indy story: contrivances, coincidences, implausible feats, supernatural elements, etc.

But if you push too far you break the believability of your own story, and that's when you get into "this is so stupid I've lost respect for the story" territory. Time travel might be one of them. If Indy randomly was able to walk upside down on ceiling because of an artifact, that'd be another.

The Shanghai scene just has far too many incredibly stupid moments that break believability. The plane taking off, the planes navigating along streets between buildings, having firefights in said streets, flying THROUGH a building, enemy plane just not deciding to tilt slightly to throw Indy off, fistfighting on the wing...you might be able to get away with ONE of these things. All together, it's too stupidly ridiculous. But this will vary from person to person depending on where their "stupidity threshold" exists.

[Poto_Oil]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

Indiana Jones has been entirely implausible from the start.

Not sure why every day someone is bringing realism arguments to this forum.

It's been over-the-top action and slapstick comedy since 1981.

If you think this game's story is bad, watch Dial of Destiny. It's the most absurd of the lot. They do exactly what this game does, only worse. They don't just teleport, they time travel.

In Dial of Destiny they time travel to ancient Greece during the Siege of Syracuse.

213-212 BC.

Nothing tops that in film if you want to talk about realism.

Yeah but the entire point of the movies is that Indy is an ordinary guy doing the best he can in the face of powers he doesn't understand, so it makes sense when the Holy Grail cures a fatal gunshot wound or when someone pulls a beating heart out of a dude's body or drives Noah's Ark directly to Heaven, but not when he stuffs himself in a fridge that hits the ground with the velocity of an artillery shell but doesn't get liquefied or even get any bones broken

[heliosphann]

I just finished this sequence, and it is quite jarring how unrealistic it is. Especially the plane taking off from almost a stand still. That's just blatantly throwing physics out the window.

[XxXxMLGSuperDuperRavoliEaterXxXx]

idk man it was pretty cool tho lol

[Prisoner 849]

The plane taking off from a roof was pure jank. There had to have been a better way to come up with an action sequence than that. Everything from the "take-off" to the shooting mechanics, and jumping from one plane to another was easily the dumbest thing in a game that otherwise was trying to make things look realistic with lighting etc. and trying to keep some plausibility about things. I think I would have preferred if the story had just moved on without that scene entirely.