Why no AMD support?

[Citizen Cook]

I have a 3080Ti so I’m using DLSS, obviously, but why is there no FSR support? I would have liked to use FSR 3 frame generation with my DLSS 2.
Does anyone know if the developers plan to add support at a later date?

[Swamp Fox]

FSR3 does not support Vulkan. Wait for 3.1

[HDRcade[Tyler]]

Sponsored by Nvidia. That's all you need to know. You can't even hack in FSR frame gen support, the game will detect it and refuse to boot. Sucks as 30 series owner.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by HDRcadeTyler:

Sponsored by Nvidia. That's all you need to know. You can't even hack in FSR frame gen support, the game will detect it and refuse to boot. Sucks as 30 series owner.

Incorrect. Refer to my correct post above you. Don't say wrong things when someone has already said the right thing.

[HDRcade[Tyler]]

3.1 SDK was released July 2024. It could have been implemented if they wanted.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by HDRcadeTyler:

3.1 SDK was released July 2024. It could have been implemented if they wanted.

July 2024 means the game is in final beta testing and new features are not being added. They had enough problems with basic gameplay and engine bugs that they were unable to fix.

[Y_B_A_FOOL]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by HDRcadeTyler:

3.1 SDK was released July 2024. It could have been implemented if they wanted.

July 2024 means the game is in final beta testing and new features are not being added. They had enough problems with basic gameplay and engine bugs that they were unable to fix.

Doubt, seem intentional.

[green.nifta]

The last patch notes said FSR would be coming.

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Citizen Cook:

but why is there no FSR support?

It's interesting that an owner of an older nVidia card posts that question.
As mentioned, the game is sponsored by nVidia.

In addition to that, according to Steam hardware survey, only 4.42% have an AMD card that can run this game. As for XeSS, only 0.18% use Intel Arc...

Effectively the roughly 33% of RTX 20 and 30 series users would benefit the most from implementing AMD FSR frame generation. I think that's both funny and sad.

The dominance of nVidia is incredible and although I'm part of the "problem" myself - I only bought nVidia cards since my 8800 GTS (640MB) - I don't like this near monopoly. It allows nVidia to dictate and control prices since there is no real competition anymore...

[Mr.Fish]

Originally posted by Citizen Cook:

I have a 3080Ti so I’m using DLSS, obviously, but why is there no FSR support? I would have liked to use FSR 3 frame generation with my DLSS 2.
Does anyone know if the developers plan to add support at a later date?

Ironic that nvidia owners needing amd support to come to their performance rescue.

Amd owners can use in driver solutions instead so only 20/30 series owners affected, daddy nvidia wants to sell you a 40 series cards obviously.

[Sedgendary]

Originally posted by Mr.Fish:

Originally posted by Citizen Cook:

I have a 3080Ti so I’m using DLSS, obviously, but why is there no FSR support? I would have liked to use FSR 3 frame generation with my DLSS 2.
Does anyone know if the developers plan to add support at a later date?

Ironic that nvidia owners needing amd support to come to their performance rescue.

Amd owners can use in driver solutions instead so only 20/30 series owners affected, daddy nvidia wants to sell you a 40 series cards obviously.

hell I remember being on the Jedi Survivor forums and having the Nvidia users complaining about that game only having FSR

[Y_B_A_FOOL]

Originally posted by Mav99:

The dominance of nVidia is incredible and although I'm part of the "problem" myself. It allows nVidia to dictate and control prices since there is no real competition anymore...

Nvidia only controls pricing for fan boiz and dominance is speculative.
Their market strategy is outstanding though. Buying out silicon and forcing partners to not work with competition has been solid for them.

The 4070ti has been the same price as the 7900xtx most of the year. No level headed shopper would buy a 4070ti+ class card if value was a concern. Reality is most people have over priced low spec prebuilts and laptops.

Best advice would be to take the Steam HW survey at surface level. It's mostly laptops; 2nd place is the 4060 mobile at 4.76% of users.

Intel is still dominate at 63% and no one is actually buying Intel it's just laptops.

Ref top sellers: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Y_B_A_FOOL:

The 4070ti has been the same price as the 7900xtx most of the year. No level headed shopper would buy a 4070ti+ class card if value was a concern.

But it's not about just value, it's about performance and features (DLSS, ray tracing) and drivers...

And while the Steam hardware survey does indeed include mobile GPUs in notebooks, I also read about a recent study that found out that while overall sales of discrete graphics cards are down, nVidia is leading leading with a 90% market share. Intels's number are so low that they're listed with 0% so the remaining 10% is all AMD. Slightly better for AMD than the Steam numbers but still a dominant lead by nVidia.
(Source: https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/q324-pc-graphics-add-in-board-shipments-decreased-14-5-from-last-quarter/)

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Sedgendary:

hell I remember being on the Jedi Survivor forums and having the Nvidia users complaining about that game only having FSR

Sure, DLSS simply looks (much) better. Usually users of older nVidia cards just want FSR *FRAME GENERATION* to use that in conjunction with DLSS... ;)

I never did that with my old RTX 2070. And Indiana Jones is actually the first game where I ever use frame generation with DLSS quality on my current RTX 4070 Ti Super. It's a trade off, but with this rather slow paced game it's acceptable to keep the frame rate (far) above 60 all the time even with "FullRT" path tracing. :)

[Y_B_A_FOOL]

Originally posted by Mav99:

Originally posted by Y_B_A_FOOL:

The 4070ti has been the same price as the 7900xtx most of the year. No level headed shopper would buy a 4070ti+ class card if value was a concern.

But it's not about just value, it's about performance and features (DLSS, ray tracing) and drivers...

4070ti is a mid range GPU, not a 4090. It's RT performance is on par with the 7900xtx.

[CzUSMC]

DONT BUY THIS GAME if you have a AMD GPU this was NOT made for you.