Am I the only one?

[StacySweetie❤]

I’ve been an Indiana Jones fan ever since I was a little girl when my dad introduced me to the movies. That being said I can’t bring myself to be excited for this game considering where the franchise and games as a whole is nowadays. I didn’t bother seeing the latest movie which bombed at the box office, and while it’s not 100% that this game will shove DEI narratives down onto us, it is highly suspect to and I’m not a fan of having these lectures in politics in my face whether it’s about gender race or whatever woke nonsense may be. I just wanna play a good game, not talked down to about things that don’t even matter.

Which begs the question; am I the only person not excited about this game, despite being a fan of the IP?

[KEEPER]

oh no your not the only one lol, half the internet is talking about this right now, i mean i have seen up to 30 separate channels on youtube with hundreds of thousands of views in each channel all talking about this, there could be more channels i have no idea about also talking about it, but that's just youtube i'm talking about.

the point is, you are not alone, the news of this is spreading like wildfire right now.

[KEEPER]

also i'm a fan of the IP, but these days i have watched great IP's turn into utter trash because of the agenda being pushed constantly, so there are a lot of IP's going down the toilet because they wanted to spread a message most ppl do not want to hear about.

if you ask me, they should release this stuff as an optional download, like bethesda does with their high resolution texture packs, ppl don't like them sometimes so it's always an optional download, so if ppl want that stuff in the game, they can download that for themselves, but the main product doesn't have it in the game.

if they did it this way, they might save themselves from the backlash.

[StacySweetie❤]

Originally posted by KEEPER:

also i'm a fan of the IP, but these days i have watched great IP's turn into utter trash because of the agenda being pushed constantly, so there are a lot of IP's going down the toilet because they wanted to spread a message most ppl do not want to hear about.

if you ask me, they should release this stuff as an optional download, like bethesda does with their high resolution texture packs, ppl don't like them sometimes so it's always an optional download, so if ppl want that stuff in the game, they can download that for themselves, but the main product doesn't have it in the game.

if they did it this way, they might save themselves from the backlash.

It’s tragic that’s happened to so many franchises. I couldn’t care if it was a new title like Concord, but riding off the name of a famous brand to push the message is not only insulting to the consumer, but to the legacy of said IP and the people who brought it to life from their own passions. I do hope that we can be proven wrong and this game won’t have a heavy emphasis on DEI, but I’m not crossing any fingers

[Fredwick]

Another DEID group member😹

[barraloff1967]

Wow so many people have such bad thought on the title, shees let it come out already.

[KEEPER]

Originally posted by StacySweetie:

Originally posted by KEEPER:

also i'm a fan of the IP, but these days i have watched great IP's turn into utter trash because of the agenda being pushed constantly, so there are a lot of IP's going down the toilet because they wanted to spread a message most ppl do not want to hear about.

if you ask me, they should release this stuff as an optional download, like bethesda does with their high resolution texture packs, ppl don't like them sometimes so it's always an optional download, so if ppl want that stuff in the game, they can download that for themselves, but the main product doesn't have it in the game.

if they did it this way, they might save themselves from the backlash.

It’s tragic that’s happened to so many franchises. I couldn’t care if it was a new title like Concord, but riding off the name of a famous brand to push the message is not only insulting to the consumer, but to the legacy of said IP and the people who brought it to life from their own passions. I do hope that we can be proven wrong and this game won’t have a heavy emphasis on DEI, but I’m not crossing any fingers

well, i can't remember who said it, but they basically said it will take 2 years to stop the spread, but they weren't talking about the fauci shot, they were talking about gaming, so they say to stay away from titles for the next 2 years until these companies all go bankrupt on this DEI agenda of theirs when they find out that the agenda simply isn't worth the losses in their money making, but who knows, maybe some smart dev will see my comment about making the DEI stuff in an optional file instead of embedding it into the main game.

at the very least they can save themselves some issues with the message Destroying them from ppl that won't purchase the game otherwise.

"just a thought BETHESDA, YOU HAVE THE POWER AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, IT CAN BE FIXED BEFORE RELEASE, MEANING IT CAN BE DELAYED AND RELEASED LATER!

[KEEPER]

Originally posted by Fredwick:

Another DEID group member😹

laugh all you want, but this only means the game suffers from the loss of players purchasing the game, that is not to be laughed at, because it can destroy a company if it happens enough times, take a look at Ubisoft right now, and before them it was a few other studios going bankrupt who had to sell all of their IP's to another company simply because they chose to go the DEI route.

at this point, i don't feel sorry for these company's firing everyone, when your company chooses such a divisive agenda and ends up failing on a dramatic level, you know that company doesn't have long to exist.

this is what happens when these companies choose this agenda, they end up being found out and then they lose big time money, i mean not only did they lose a lot of money in the making of the game, but they also lose out on the potential money made back for releasing the game.

i understand this is Microsoft and they aren't as likely to go broke, however this doesn't mean they will make a whole lot of money on these games so long as this message is being forced into their games, as it happens the majority of gamers hate this stuff and will reject it at every stage once they find out about it.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by KEEPER:

laugh all you want, but this only means the game suffers from the loss of players purchasing the game

That's not what the stats show.
The supposed "woke" games that failed failed on their own merits, because they were lousy to mediocre games (some of which, ironically, only received praise for their writing). There are also several blatantly "woke" games that were exceptionally successful.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

at this point, i don't feel sorry for these company's firing everyone, when your company chooses such a divisive agenda and ends up failing on a dramatic level, you know that company doesn't have long to exist.

They're firing everyone so they can give the illusion of numbers going up to shareholders. It has nothing to do with "woke".

Originally posted by KEEPER:

so long as this message is being forced into their games

There is no "message" being "forced" into video games.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

as it happens the majority of gamers hate this stuff

The majority of gamers don't care about culture war nonsense.

[KEEPER]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by KEEPER:

laugh all you want, but this only means the game suffers from the loss of players purchasing the game

That's not what the stats show.
The supposed "woke" games that failed failed on their own merits, because they were lousy to mediocre games (some of which, ironically, only received praise for their writing). There are also several blatantly "woke" games that were exceptionally successful.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

at this point, i don't feel sorry for these company's firing everyone, when your company chooses such a divisive agenda and ends up failing on a dramatic level, you know that company doesn't have long to exist.

They're firing everyone so they can give the illusion of numbers going up to shareholders. It has nothing to do with "woke".

Originally posted by KEEPER:

so long as this message is being forced into their games

There is no "message" being "forced" into video games.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

as it happens the majority of gamers hate this stuff

The majority of gamers don't care about culture war nonsense.

lol ok, believe whatever you wish to believe, i have been watching this going on for years, it took time for ppl to pay attention and that number keeps rising to higher numbers, but of course deny it bla bla bla, the stats are not reflecting all the same things, woke is an agenda stop pretending it isn't.

and the games you speak of that are woke that are doing great, i assume you can only bring up boulders gate 3 right?

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by KEEPER:

lol ok, believe whatever you wish to believe, i have been watching this going on for years

So have I.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

woke is an agenda stop pretending it isn't.

I'm not the one pretending.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

and the games you speak of that are woke that are doing great, i assume you can only bring up boulders gate 3 right?

Well, here are a few big-name "woke" games that did great (with Metacritic scores):
Hades: 93
Spider-Man 2: 90
Cyberpunk 2077: 86
God of War: Ragnarok: 94
Hogwarts Legacy: 84
Baldur's Gate 3: 96

Here are a few indie games SBI, specifically, worked on (with Steam aggregates)
- Neo Cab (81%)
- Sable (86%)
- Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew (93%)
- Goodbye Volcano High (89%)
- Kingdom Eighties (75%)
- Tales of Kenzera: ZAU (81%)

What these games have in common is that they were all well-received because they appeal to their player bases. Being "woke" did them no harm.

[StacySweetie❤]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by KEEPER:

lol ok, believe whatever you wish to believe, i have been watching this going on for years

So have I.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

woke is an agenda stop pretending it isn't.

I'm not the one pretending.

Originally posted by KEEPER:

and the games you speak of that are woke that are doing great, i assume you can only bring up boulders gate 3 right?

Well, here are a few big-name "woke" games that did great (with Metacritic scores):
Hades: 93
Spider-Man 2: 90
Cyberpunk 2077: 86
God of War: Ragnarok: 94
Hogwarts Legacy: 84
Baldur's Gate 3: 96

Here are a few indie games SBI, specifically, worked on (with Steam aggregates)
- Neo Cab (81%)
- Sable (86%)
- Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew (93%)
- Goodbye Volcano High (89%)
- Kingdom Eighties (75%)
- Tales of Kenzera: ZAU (81%)

What these games have in common is that they were all well-received because they appeal to their player bases. Being "woke" did them no harm.

lmao, imagine using games that were involved with Sweet Baby Inc to prove your point. Not to mention taking metacritic seriously. What are the userscores? I bet you don't wanna show because I'm willing to bet they're not so hot

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by StacySweetie:

lmao, imagine using games that were involved with Sweet Baby Inc to prove your point.

It's entirely appropriate, since they are the "woke" villain of the week, and people have been claiming high and low that their involvement is poison for games.

Originally posted by StacySweetie:

Not to mention taking metacritic seriously. What are the userscores? I bet you don't wanna show because I'm willing to bet they're not so hot

I chose Metacritic scores for those games because not all are available on Steam, but the ones that are have similar aggregates. User scores on Metacritic are extremely easily abused, since people don't even need to have played a game to review it and they can review the same game multiple times, making the site a prime target for review bombing.

Even if you disagree with the critics, the games I listed were objectively huge financal successes, directly refuting the claim that gamers won't buy "woke" games.

[[Redacted]]

Originally posted by StacySweetie:

Which begs the question; am I the only person not excited about this game, despite being a fan of the IP?

No, you're not the only one, but certain people like that loveable goofball, Tanoomba, are so far left they want to deny wokeness or any legitimacy of the backlash.

Their values and beliefs are incontrovertible facts for the whole world and we're just silly little bigoted extremists for not honoring their unbiased universal truths in their objective reality.

BTW Tan, I remember you saying this in a different thread:

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by Redacted:

If you're going to deny the existence of wokeness

I never have.

You have been very inconsistent on this issue and there's a problem with how you address wokeness.

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Well, here are a few big-name "woke" games that did great...

Whenever someone places a single word, or a phrase, in quotation marks it signifies they are denying the validity for the definition of the term as in it's not real or they don't agree with how the term is being used, which is just a different form of denial.

Example: Here's said he was having "fun", but he looked miserable to me.

So if you have never denied the existence of wokeness then what's this 👇?

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by KEEPER:

woke is an agenda stop pretending it isn't.

I'm not the one pretending.

Either you're acknowledging wokeness is real and are denying the agenda or you're denying both its existence and the agenda behind it, which one is it?

I can't seem to get a straight answer from you for some reason.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by Redacted:

You have been very inconsistent on this issue

Not true.

Originally posted by Redacted:

Whenever someone places a single word, or a phrase, in quotation marks it signifies they are denying the validity for the definition of the term as in it's not real or they don't agree with how the term is being used, which is just a different form of denial.

Or, I am suggesting the term as it's being used by its detractors.

[[Redacted]]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by Redacted:

You have been very inconsistent on this issue

Not true.

It very much is and you still haven't answered any question 😂.

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by Redacted:

Whenever someone places a single word, or a phrase, in quotation marks it signifies they are denying the validity for the definition of the term as in it's not real or they don't agree with how the term is being used, which is just a different form of denial.

Or, I am suggesting the term as it's being used by its detractors.

So you're a social justice warrior now? That would actually make a lot of sense.

I find it incredibly amusing I address every single one of your statements while you have already denied cherry picking, but only respond with a whopping two.

This leads me to believe that you can't refute my statements you don't address therefore you just gloss over them.