Is this worth $ over NotD?

[Canniballistic]

The game looks like a clone of NotD and with SC2 Arcade being free, whats the reason to buy this?

I would love a reason because a dedicated NotD would be great but this looks like a complete clone and I cant find any info saying otherwise.

[Syrus]

Because it was inspired by Night of the Dead from Warcraft 3 , and all similar games :)

[Canniballistic]

Originally posted by Syrus:

Because it was inspired by Night of the Dead from Warcraft 3 , and all similar games :)

Inspiration is fine but from the media provided the game looks like it plays exactly like NotD

In the videos the level didnt look interesting at all and item names seemed very similar to items used in NotD, the monsters looked the same and even the audio sounded similarly low-budget, and theres no info at all on how the missions work for comparrison.

So where is the reason to pay money for what is otherwise a knock-off of an essentially free game?

[Syrus]

If you like challenge and games like notd you will like this. This is supposed to be improved version of notd with engine created around it :)

[Canniballistic]

Originally posted by Syrus:

If you like challenge and games like notd you will like this. This is supposed to be improved version of notd with engine created around it :)

That might be true but what I was saying was that I cant tell whats been improved.

Honestly it doesnt look any better than NotD2 on the SC2 Arcade.

[El Oshcuro]

Yes because NotD standalone doesn't exist and this is a constantly evolving and improved version of NotD basically

[Canniballistic]

Originally posted by El Oshcuro:

Yes because NotD standalone doesn't exist and this is a constantly evolving and improved version of NotD basically :D:

The game doesnt look much better than NotD and there are no listed or shown improvements or aditional features.

So its $25 for a near 1:1 copy of something free?

Why would anyone pay $25 or even $15 to play NotD when NotD is free? Zero logic.

[Valore]

I can only speak for people who have never played NotD, since I never did myself.

To me, this game's like an open world Alien Swarm. I think the game itself could still use some polishing, but the basics are pretty fun.

Don't know where you're getting the prices you're quoting from, the game's selling at around USD7 a copy right now on sale.

If anything, I'm jealous because I'm a Kickstarter backer who paid more xD

[Varacka]

Originally posted by Go Towards The Light:

Pretty sure WC3 still costs money to buy, pretty sure it takes time to set up a mod , pretty sure it looks like poop compared to modern polygon counts, simple true stories, troll elsewhere.

I agree on all counts except the troll bit.

+.5

[luckz]

I guess the OP is implying that (freely playable) SC2 NotD is at least as good as (gotta buy WC3 to play) WC3 NotD.
I can't judge that.

[Warchicken]

Originally posted by Valore:

I can only speak for people who have never played NotD, since I never did myself.

To me, this game's like an open world Alien Swarm. I think the game itself could still use some polishing, but the basics are pretty fun.

Don't know where you're getting the prices you're quoting from, the game's selling at around USD7 a copy right now on sale.

If anything, I'm jealous because I'm a Kickstarter backer who paid more xD

That's exactly what I was thinking. An improved Alien Swarm. He's still right though NotD is free. Hope the Dev's show us what's new and improved.

[Syrus]

Hmm, ok let me try

- leadership system that was always total fail in notd
- customization of your marines(from weapons to skills to powerups),
- weapons you can switch
- graphics
- bigger map

It's best if you watch videos, notd(for vets who know) was never focused on action, it was chaotic action that you managed to perfectly control with your aquired knowledge.

I don't know what you like or not :) I know NotD was a game that inspired me to create TRS. All the maps in that "genre" have some nice coop aspect, you can look at as a blessing, or not :)

I think I'am gonna go off for 3h or so, 24h awake and fixing bugs :p

[Canniballistic]

Originally posted by Valore:

Don't know where you're getting the prices you're quoting from, the game's selling at around USD7 a copy right now on sale.

If anything, I'm jealous because I'm a Kickstarter backer who paid more xD

There is a post in another section of the forum here saying that its not meant to be $15 for a 2 pack and that the 2 pack shouldnt exist yet but a developer was encouraging people to take advantage even though thats their own money they are losing.
EDIT: Heres the quote its actually here in general disc..

Originally posted by El Oshcuro:

We're not supposed to have a 2-pack yet! So if you get it now you're getting lucky!

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Originally posted by luckz:

I guess the OP is implying that (freely playable) SC2 NotD is at least as good as (gotta buy WC3 to play) WC3 NotD.
I can't judge that.

^this. Why buy the same thing when its free through the SC2 Arcade.

Originally posted by Syrus:

Hmm, ok let me try

- leadership system that was always total fail in notd
- customization of your marines(from weapons to skills to powerups),
- weapons you can switch
- graphics
- bigger map

It's best if you watch videos, notd(for vets who know) was never focused on action, it was chaotic action that you managed to perfectly control with your aquired knowledge.

I don't know what you like or not :) I know NotD was a game that inspired me to create TRS. All the maps in that "genre" have some nice coop aspect, you can look at as a blessing, or not :)

I think I'am gonna go off for 3h or so, 24h awake and fixing bugs :p

the leadership system in the original gave you perks and special abilities IIRC and you could always pick up different weapons in NotD.
As far as customization goes theres no information about it and while this game obviously looks good and im sure can support larger maps... whats the point when they look as barren and lifeless as in the trailers?

Someone needs to take the time and explain the features of the game in detail and how it compares to NotD as being so extremely similar it should be very clear what the differences are and how its improved.


Suffice to say even if there were a legitimate reason to buy this game instead of just downloading the SC2 Arcade for free and playing NotD, its never explained anywhere on steam or the games webpage.

[Alkemicmar]

I hope you'll find some of your answers here. :D
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/947226117/the-red-solstice?ref=nav_search
Cheers!

[Canniballistic]

Originally posted by Mungos Nevada:

I hope you'll find some of your answers here. :D
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/947226117/the-red-solstice?ref=nav_search
Cheers!

Firstly, why move the thread to "Off Topic"? the topic is the game and thats what the thread is about.

As far as the kickstarter pages info goes as far as I can see it still doesnt show any info to seperate this game from NotD except the price.

See, I understand what the game is because I've played alot of NotD so thats not what I want to know. I want to know what seperates this game from NotD?

[Alkemicmar]

Space for changes and great deal of new stuff is what seperates this game from NotD, in my opinion. Hard working developers who's only interest is to make this game better and bigger each day, since they are all NotD fans. If you are interested, and I can see that you are, I suggest that you buy this game and see it for yourself. If you don't want to, then there's no other way I can help you.
Cheers!