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Honorable_D Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:12pm
Fish just... disappear after awhile?
I'm 100% sure I've cleared a large area around my base of all predators (stalkers, biters, sandsharks, bleeders) and yet all the fish I've hatched and released eventually just disappear.

At one point a had a good two dozen Peepers and Airsacks happily swiming around out in front of my base and after a few hours there were fewer and fewer of them to be found until eventually none at all. I even took off swimming in a larger area and didn't come across any of them.

So, does the game simply glitch out and lose track/despawn fish after awhile? It really seems like it does because I once had 3 Gasopods near my base and they eventually all disappeared as well.

Needs fixing I think!
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Greg Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:30pm 
I don't know if that's a bug, I noticed fish seem to have a lifespan, from all the dead fish in my aquariums, regardless of spieces. But I wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't respawn near player bases.
Cougarific Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:45pm 
They're playing around with a respawning mechanic now - whether it's implemented in-game remains to be seen.
Honorable_D Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:47pm 
Well, I had hatched plenty of them and put a lot of them out into the water. The issue I'm having is why did they all simply disappear after awhile? Not being saved properly or not loaded back in after you return from traveling far away for a bit?
tran_fors Feb 29, 2016 @ 8:23pm 
The popular theory is that the Stalkers are eating them. One of the respawning mechanisms the devs are considering is something that some of us have suggested: making the prey fish respawn only if it doesn't die due to the player. They may be considering other techniques, but they haven't told up any other details (that I'm aware of, anyway).
Vince Feb 29, 2016 @ 9:19pm 
(including some radius / quantity limitation could be interesting // cpu/gpu // graph settings speaking of respawn)
Lark Feb 29, 2016 @ 10:28pm 
I have a 4 tier tank. I think the tank and carry the fish I don't need for food back outside. They stay around the base but they live. That gary fish seem to just sit around, but other fish tend to swim around or away.

I figure this is a good way to replace what I'd had to eat before.
sgarv Feb 29, 2016 @ 10:30pm 
No idea about the gasopods, but small fish will routinely kill themselves by swimming into a stalker's mouth or into a volcanic vent. I unfortunately built my base near a volcano thing and within something like 5 days all the fish around it were dead and gone
Lark Feb 29, 2016 @ 10:43pm 
I started my large aquariums as soon as I could. The put a pair of fish in them to start my own fishfarm. solves that problem. I think the stuff you plant in the aquarium affects the fish too.
Honorable_D Feb 29, 2016 @ 10:47pm 
My aquarium is filled with peepers, airsacks and reginalds. Quite a few of them build up so I end up releasing a lot of them out to sea (fruit trees is all I need anymore, lol) but then they all end up disappearing eventually.
JohnnyTheBoy Feb 29, 2016 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by 01blaze2:
I started my large aquariums as soon as I could. The put a pair of fish in them to start my own fishfarm. solves that problem. I think the stuff you plant in the aquarium affects the fish too.
Yeah I'm kinda on that theory aswell.
I'm guessing there is a max entity count of your proximity. So taken into account that you are most likely to spend most of your time near your base. Which might have multiple fish farms and farming trays, that all take up an entity counter. Which in the end has a higer priority over wildlife and thus ends up pushing them out by making them either depsawn or simply not reload once you leave the area.
Though I don't really have anything to back this up other than nearly every type of fish, big or small, tends to despawn near my base.
Honorable_D Feb 29, 2016 @ 11:03pm 
Well, that certainly sounds plausible... I'll go with that being the reason for now. Heh
Lark Feb 29, 2016 @ 11:36pm 
just out of curiosity did you have any plants in the aquarium?
Honorable_D Feb 29, 2016 @ 11:37pm 
Ya, 3 creepvines and 1, errr, red roll plant?
Tinywulf Mar 1, 2016 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by JohnnyTheBoy:
Originally posted by 01blaze2:
I started my large aquariums as soon as I could. The put a pair of fish in them to start my own fishfarm. solves that problem. I think the stuff you plant in the aquarium affects the fish too.
Yeah I'm kinda on that theory aswell.
I'm guessing there is a max entity count of your proximity. So taken into account that you are most likely to spend most of your time near your base. Which might have multiple fish farms and farming trays, that all take up an entity counter. Which in the end has a higer priority over wildlife and thus ends up pushing them out by making them either depsawn or simply not reload once you leave the area.
Though I don't really have anything to back this up other than nearly every type of fish, big or small, tends to despawn near my base.

I am getting Stalkerless Kelp forests around me but I have onle 2 fish in my aquarium so i doubt it is that.
DARKNESS Mar 9, 2016 @ 1:25pm 
Just noticed the same [tested on latest exp. 29605]. Kelp forests have become stalkerless and I haven't even killed one in my entire 8 hr. save game. I am also noticing more and more fish disappearing and no I'm not counting the ones I have eaten early in the game.

I built a base near the volcanic vent in the shallows. After a while there aren't anymore fish around the entire area . I didn't even kill one fish around my base and the lack of any stalkers means they couldn't have eaten them.

I then decided to breed a good amount of fish to place around my base to bring some life back to the area. It worked for a while but now all fish are gone. I checked the bottom of the vent and there were 2 dead/cooked peepers in there...so that is not where they are going.

Something is definately going on with fish despawning. The ocean is becomming lifeless and boring. Hopefully the devs can look into this.
Last edited by DARKNESS; Mar 9, 2016 @ 1:30pm
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