Game keeps crashing and showing error messages

[Ralf Ferdius]

Bugs. Game keeps randomly crashing. Game shows several and strange error messages, who do like to get solved.

I played a few hours to days, with my own saves / new games and cities from other players,

Loading saved games as new games takes too long time, Around 20 minutes and more.
For example: Honu Island,Arid Plains,Wolf Creek,Islands,Pine Rivers,Garden Rivers,Lavender Lake,Shady Strands,Lagoon Shore,Windfield,Eden Valley. Which already are included inside my game version.

There are always some delay / waiting time after x time, games pauses for a few minutes.
Then game continues as before. Later this keep returning. Does not matter if it is a new map or saved game, mine or created by others. Game does not crash, just stop working and not responding for a few minutes to seconds. Animations from water, vehicles and weather will stop. Happen always when you do longer / difficult things, like creating roads / tracks, lines, pipes / power lines,

Game keeps crashing now more times.
Big white screen bug still there, not removed by any of the "updates". Game stops working, I see a big white screen, then Windows Cities.exe must be closed. Start the game again and within 5 minutes or so this repeats.

Game has limited names for new cities.

Random and many white blinking / flashing while playing, loading a saved game / city or using the new chosen city map.

Left upper information windows closes when you click on lower menu items like districts / areas. You can not close menu when other item from here is still open.

A lot of names as NewCity, NewSave, NewAsset, QuickSave. Difficult and seems not the filename they are using. City name is one from game default and limited chosen names.

Game items in lower menu (roads, buildings, parks) do not load directly when I started a new map or loaded a saved game. You must wait a few seconds to minutes before game responds, "unlock" or remove this sort delay / waiting thing.

Junctions do not fit to existing roads, always in wrong corner.
They do not always have pictures or text. Others having very small pictures, do not place or see white world. When you created your own road sets you can nor save them, use or move them when later if needed.

Unable to remove graveyards. They are small and can not be upgraded / expanded.
Count they as parks?

Missing single one way road.

Game keeps showing strange error messages when loading a saved game.
For example:
#1
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at NetNode.UpdateJunctionTerrain (UInt16 nodeID, Single minX, Single minZ, Single maxX, Single maxZ, Boolean baseRaiseTerrain, Boolean baseFlattenTerrain, Surface surfaceMask, Surface iterationMask) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at NetNode.TerrainUpdated (UInt16 nodeID, Single minX, Single minZ, Single maxX, Single maxZ) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at NetManager.TerrainUpdated (.TerrainArea heightArea, .TerrainArea surfaceArea, .TerrainArea zoneArea) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at TerrainManager.Managers_TerrainUpdated (.TerrainArea heightArea, .TerrainArea surfaceArea, .TerrainArea zoneArea) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at TerrainModify.UpdateAreaImplementation () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at TerrainModify.EndUpdateArea () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SimulationManager.SimulationStep () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SimulationManager.SimulationThread () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

Game keeps showing this when a loaded a saved game and become stuck within this error message or something looking like this error, just an empty message box. Never ending OKi button clicking, Unable to play this saved game / city. Unable play the game, play with another, click menu gear icon in top right corner. I must use Taskmgr and remove Cities.exe from the list here.

Same for:
#2
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoadBaseAI.RoadBaseAI.UpdateLanes_Patch0 (RoadBaseAI,uint16,NetSegment+,bool) <0x0278d>
at NetSegment.UpdateLanes (uint16,bool) <0x00092>
at NetNode.CheckHeightOffset (uint16) <0x00452>
at NetNode.TerrainUpdated (uint16,single,single,single,single) <0x001cd>
at NetManager.TerrainUpdated (TerrainArea,TerrainArea,TerrainArea) <0x00532>
at TerrainManager.Managers_TerrainUpdated (TerrainArea,TerrainArea,TerrainArea) <0x0005e>
at TerrainModify.UpdateAreaImplementation () <0x018f1>
at TerrainModify.UpdateArea (int,int,int,int,bool,bool,bool) <0x0066b>
at TerrainManager.UpdateData (SimulationManager/UpdateMode) <0x000ef>
at SimulationManager.Managers_UpdateData (SimulationManager/UpdateMode,single,single) <0x000d5>
at LoadingManager/<LoadSimulationData>c__IteratorB.MoveNext () <0x00bfa>
at AsyncTask.Execute () <0x000a8>

Also same for:
#3
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at RadioChannelData.SimulationTick (UInt16 channelIndex) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at AudioManager.SimulationStepImpl (Int32 subStep) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SimulationManagerBase`2[Manager,Properties].SimulationStep (Int32 subStep) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at AudioManager.ISimulationManager.SimulationStep (Int32 subStep) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SimulationManager.SimulationStep () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SimulationManager.SimulationThread () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
See only this error message and can not do anything else then use Taskmgr and remove that Cities.exe from the list there.
What do they mean and how to remove them?

Not every .crp file is a saved game / city. Game does not show them under saved games and new city maps

City with 35k people seems to need 6 service buildings of everything.
Not able to too high prices and low cover.
The money you get on a new milestone is just enough to create new zones and roads, hard needed power, water and sewer. Add a new tile to expand the city build space.
Service buildings look old and small for bigger cities.

Missing 2 one way avenue roads.

Difference between Campus DLC and campus / university buildings? For teaching people inside your city. After using both schools.

Missing buildings and roads who using 2 or more PTs.
Train, bus, tram combination.
Train, bus, metro combination.
Train, tram, metro combination.
Train, bus, metro, tram combination.
Monorail and tram tracks together without the road.
Train and tram tracks together without the road.
Bus, monorail and tram tracks on 4 lanes road. Normal, with grass, with trees roads
Train and monorail tracks together without the road.
Ferry pier building with train and/or monorail and/or metro.
Ferry pier building with train and/or monorail and/or metro without the cruise ship connection.
Larger airport has only metro connection, but no train connection, bus stops or other PTs.

Unable to remove garbage dumps. They are small and can not be upgraded / expanded.

Connecting a power lines works better when using a handle, like buildings or parks.

Only way to "remove" garbage is to burn it with giving pollution and small power.
Where get power to when less power is used and power plants created more then needed?

I used the Map Editor, create a new map and try to test this map. (Which does not show in new city map list.) Even when leaving and return to Map Editor, I see strange error messages.
#4
System.Exception: Failed to get stream!
at LoadingManager+<LoadSimulationData>c__IteratorB.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at AsyncTask.Execute () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

#5
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at BuildingManager.SampleSmoothHeight (Vector3 worldPos, Layer layers) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at CameraController.CalculateCameraHeightOffset (Vector3 worldPos, Single distance) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at CameraController.Reset (Vector3 startOffset, UpdateMode mode, SavedCameraView savedCameraView) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at GameAreaManager.OnLevelLoaded (UpdateMode mode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at SkyveMod.Patches.LoadLevelCompletePatch.SpecialInvoke (.LevelLoadedHandler e, UpdateMode mode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0


Unknown what they mean, as how to remove them.

Bugs for the terrain tool mod:
Option to level the ground has a 3-part windows and show always too far at left side.
At some point, clicking on one of the (4) ground options do not work, earlier is still "pressed" and you can not longer use both or one of them. With their values / settings inside the left window does not show anymore. Until you restarted the game. As for, loading another saved game / city or create a new one, do not solve this.

Bugs for MoveIt tool mod: No undo options. Mirror options do not work at all. Changing roads or tracks makes them strange looking thing, bended and vehicle should not able to use this.

Somebody who can help me?

[Minari]

it keeps on crashing!!! wtf

[Ralf Ferdius]

Originally posted by Minari:

it keeps on crashing!!! wtf

Yes, crashing. What do you mean? Can you help me? @Minari

[isoboto]

You can try Loading Screen mod and FPS Booster to reduce loading screen time and lessen the strain on your computer. Loading Screen will also give you a list of missing assets that may be breaking/crashing your game.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Ralf Ferdius:

Bugs. Game keeps randomly crashing. Game shows several and strange error messages, who do like to get solved.

I played a few hours to days, with my own saves / new games and cities from other players,

Loading saved games as new games takes too long time, Around 20 minutes and more.
For example: Honu Island,Arid Plains,Wolf Creek,Islands,Pine Rivers,Garden Rivers,Lavender Lake,Shady Strands,Lagoon Shore,Windfield,Eden Valley. Which already are included inside my game version.

TL:DR

Let's start here.

First, playing games from other players require you to subscribe to their workshop or the saved game may not load at all. Try going into content manager, then savegames and find your saved game. Then click the, "Subscribe All" button and wait for all workshop to download.

The Steam workshop only lets you download 100 at a time, so it can take a long time to get it all, plus you need to exit the game and restart each time you do 100 at a time.

also, you need to have enough RAM to load in workshop as workshop is not part of the game and is stuff the community has made as add-ons. So, they can use up a lot of memory and computer resources in general.

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I highly suggest to unsubscribe all and just start a new game and learn the base game, so you understand how the game works and you discover your playstyle. Then you can add workshop as you see fit. Just don't use mods to fix your city. They usually don't fix it and can add more complexity to the game, and then you end up learning mods and not the game itself.

Good luck and keep asking questions a lot.

[nordstern]

Maybe the savegame is old and so not all mods are still working.

I would recommand to play your own game and only a couple of mods until you know how to do so.

What for a PC do you have? CPU, GPU and Ram.

Is the game without mods running good?

[Ralf Ferdius]

Originally posted by isoboto:

You can try Loading Screen mod and FPS Booster to reduce loading screen time and lessen the strain on your computer. Loading Screen will also give you a list of missing assets that may be breaking/crashing your game.

This one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667342976 @isoboto? Loading Screen Mod. A message here says it is not longer working.

[Ralf Ferdius]

Originally posted by MarkJohnson:

Originally posted by Ralf Ferdius:

Bugs. Game keeps randomly crashing. Game shows several and strange error messages, who do like to get solved.

I played a few hours to days, with my own saves / new games and cities from other players,

Loading saved games as new games takes too long time, Around 20 minutes and more.
For example: Honu Island,Arid Plains,Wolf Creek,Islands,Pine Rivers,Garden Rivers,Lavender Lake,Shady Strands,Lagoon Shore,Windfield,Eden Valley. Which already are included inside my game version.

TL:DR

Let's start here.

First, playing games from other players require you to subscribe to their workshop or the saved game may not load at all. Try going into content manager, then savegames and find your saved game. Then click the, "Subscribe All" button and wait for all workshop to download.

The Steam workshop only lets you download 100 at a time, so it can take a long time to get it all, plus you need to exit the game and restart each time you do 100 at a time.

also, you need to have enough RAM to load in workshop as workshop is not part of the game and is stuff the community has made as add-ons. So, they can use up a lot of memory and computer resources in general.

************************

I highly suggest to unsubscribe all and just start a new game and learn the base game, so you understand how the game works and you discover your playstyle. Then you can add workshop as you see fit. Just don't use mods to fix your city. They usually don't fix it and can add more complexity to the game, and then you end up learning mods and not the game itself.

Good luck and keep asking questions a lot.

Same for @MarkJohnson. I played for a days, with my own saved city, only that waiting / delay bug keeps returning, what stops all animations. Always when I do more difficult actions, time consuming things. Like making roads, pipe lines, tracks or lines. When adding a series of lines, series of buildings or change / move things, In a few possibilities, I could see the white big screen and green like circle. Game does not respond for a couple of seconds to a few minutes.

Game does not check for the old, not longer used things.
When you play a saved city or map made by other players they have mostly many stuff from other. They can not longer work or exist. Even the Save game has only 15 items, Steam seems to fail download all or a few of them. I tried again and still same. Unknown why this happen. Saved game should be loaded without these, changing them in default ones or something with "missing" text on that thing. Game should better help you if some Steam Workshop thing can not work on your computer or limit it use.

Not every file seems a saved game, city or map. Game does not see this. Others have default names, like "new city", "new asset", "new map". Inside the game they have a different name.

Even when you disable Steam Workshop stuff in Content Manager, the game keeps using them? Seems something wrong and a big bug.

Unsubscribe all of them takes a long time, seems not to work and you must add them later again.


Questions:
1 Which DLC or DLCs should I add now? Which of the DLCs are best to combination?
I do not like the radio DLCs. There is no examples as artist - track information. I play my own music, if needed.

2 Can I play a saved city with DLC or DLCs who I do not have (enabled)?

3 Buy that DLC or DLCs with lower prices or not?

[Ralf Ferdius]

Game took about 20 minutes to load a new map or saved game. Where loading screen is just black, stops working, flashing / blinking white screen and later I can see that new map or saved game. Playing this is another thing. Game crashed just a few minutes later.

Originally posted by nordstern:

Maybe the savegame is old and so not all mods are still working.

I would recommand to play your own game and only a couple of mods until you know how to do so.

What for a PC do you have? CPU, GPU and Ram.

Is the game without mods running good?

Can be right that saved game is not longer working, being old, @nordstern. Why are these here, not updated or removed? But game does not show this or help you. It shows you strange error message and makes you pressing OK button until you weight zero.
You see a saved game / city on Steam Workshop and you want to try it, see of there ere nice things build, but game do not let play this saved game / city. Sad...

I like to play the game with some mods, adding some of the missing things and real knowing things.









I started Cities.exe with "-noWorkshop" option and internet cable, which seems sometimes help. But no long time solution. That saved games keeps showing that strange error message and not able to play the game. My saved game did the same, crashing, not responding and giving the white big screen bug.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Ralf Ferdius:

Originally posted by isoboto:

You can try Loading Screen mod and FPS Booster to reduce loading screen time and lessen the strain on your computer. Loading Screen will also give you a list of missing assets that may be breaking/crashing your game.

This one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667342976 @isoboto? Loading Screen Mod. A message here says it is not longer working.

You want the revised version. It helps to read over the mod page to find out what the replacement is:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2858591409

[MarkJohnson]

I highly suggest you post your saved game here.

from content manager, savegames, find your saved game, click the "Share" button, make sure it is set to public. copy and paste the link here.

[Ralf Ferdius]

Originally posted by MarkJohnson:

Originally posted by Ralf Ferdius:

This one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=667342976 @isoboto? Loading Screen Mod. A message here says it is not longer working.

You want the revised version. It helps to read over the mod page to find out what the replacement is:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2858591409

I do have that one already installed, but it seems not working for me, @MarkJohnson.
Still see strange error messages and who do not help me. Not able to play, some with crashing game, game closes itself.

I can play game with my own saved games / city, which worked for days. Until game and Windows ask my to close the game. Only that delay / waiting time in repeat as big bug.

What can I do for saved games from others?

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Ralf Ferdius:

Why do you think it is not working? Doesn't the screen look the same on your monitor, as on the workshop page?

Still see strange error messages and who do not help me. Not able to play, some with crashing game, game closes itself.

What error? What messages? we can't help you if you don't post them or post screenshots. Saying you have an error just isn't helpful without knowing the specific error message.

I can play game with my own saved games / city, which worked for days. Until game and Windows ask my to close the game. Only that delay / waiting time in repeat as big bug.

What message did windows give you when it asked you to close it?

It sounds like it repeats, so maybe write it down and post it here.

What can I do for saved games from others?

For now, I don't recommend it at all. In order to load someone else's game, you need to unsubscribe all of your workshop, then exit game and subscribe all of your workshop., then load game.

To load your old game, you need to do the above steps, but for the other saved game.

but until you get your current saved game working, you have no chance of getting someone else's game working.

[Ralf Ferdius]

The "Loading Screen Mod Revisited 1.1.8" (or which version) is not working for me.

I can not find it in the Content Manager. It should be enabled. Game keeps crashing, not responding after x minutes and repeat, see big white screen and Windows saying Cities.exe did something wrong and must be closed. Sometimes I see an Oops error message too.

There are no mods anymore. Due this mod or something else. I use the Cities Skyline shortcut on my desktop.

Started a new city on Foggy Hills map and this maps seems to bugged. Already by itself or due this mod. Map has a river and gets empty fast. Sever filter makes everything dirty and damages buildings around them. Also I can not place garbage dumps on specific place, without changing ground level, then game keeps crashing and closing by itself, I see big white screen and error message from Windows. Or I must remove Cities.exe from Taskmanager list, when game stops working. Next time again and repeat later whine is did something else first. I could play for hours on this map.
The delay / waiting time for something and repeat after x minutes bug is still here.
Also, when I save the game, there is a delay / waiting time, where the name is selected and not readable, I must wait about a minute to "unlock" this and clicking the save button too.

Several maps from the game have strange things or bugs.

When loading saved game / city or starting a new map / city, it takes about 20 minutes to load an empty "world". Still unknown why this happen. Lower menu bar seems to have same thing, a delay / waiting time, before game responds and I can click on the items in these rows.

Power lines gets damaged / removed. Some power buildings ca stop working after amount of time.

Delay / waiting time when making roads, lines, paths, tracks, pipes, placing several buildings or parks. Sometimes with blinking white screen. For about a few seconds to 1 minute.

When I make my own map and test it, there is no save option.
I must unlock everything first, which takes a lot of time and can not be make faster.
Same for cities, just having 9 tiles to add your city.

[MarkJohnson]

You need help from paradox forums (the devs):

First, read this post and gather all info it asks for:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/how-to-best-report-technical-issues-and-get-help.920608/

Then, take all of that info and start a new "Report Issue" and "attach" all files to the end of the post:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/support-bug-reports.879/

[VinceP1974]

If you installed the Skyve mod, it can suppress mods from being visible to the game. You'll have to open the application (you can open via the same screen that has the Content Manager button) and then close the game. While skyve is still open, enable the mods you're not seeing, and then you should be able to open the game again, go to content manager and see the mod there.

If you do these steps and you still don't see the mod in the Content Manager, then the game exe was still running in the background. Make sure skyve is open (or you know where it is on your hard drive so you can run it independently), then kill the game's process and make your skyve changes.

Why does skyve do this, you might ask? I dunno.