What is teleporting ?

[mbutton15]

It's a word that I've seen pop up in a few discussions lately and just want to know what it is ?

Is it linked with despawning ? I'm more familiar with that as my understanding is if a vehicle or person can't arrive at their destination in time they despawn to prevent excess clogging. I also understood that it meant, in relation to freight at least, that the freight delivery failed and a new one will start in an attempt to replace it.

To me, teleporting sounds like things magically do arrive at their destination, which is why it sounds different to despawning ?

[BucketBrain]

l would say , you are on the point .
Despawn and teleport are two different things in meaning and result or consequence ; maybe the two different sides of what we can see on the screen .
The good one is teleporting - cims to work or home if they run out of time , mystic delivery of goods to small enclosed points without road connection , Cluster delivery
Not that bad - despawn after successful delivery at stations without freight back
An exploit - despawn after successful delivery without way back
None wants to see despawning - delivery fails , tourists disappearing , despawn on start of a route to a destimation out of reach
I see a despawn as a hint to an issue or a sign of an exploit l use

[leftbehind]

OP, you are generally correct in your assessment of the terms.

Teleporting is mostly for cims when they can't spawn, usually due to game limits (max vehicles or cims on map at any given time). The game will just teleport them to keep the simulation running.

Despawning is mostly about unclogging stuck traffic, which could be anything from pathfind issues (eg. unable to reach destination due to bad road design) to merely sitting in a traffic jam for too long.

[balcmusic]

I see alot of cars despawning in front of my city park. They're driving and then just boom, walking to the park gate. Is that different? or not despawning?

[Metacritical]

Originally posted by balcmusic:

I see alot of cars despawning in front of my city park. They're driving and then just boom, walking to the park gate. Is that different? or not despawning?

that's not despawning as used above, that's parking. if the road in front of park allowed on-road parking the cars would appear there, instead they turn into pocket cars.

[mbutton15]

I don't run large cities so I'm unlikely to get to game limits. So what is happening when people disappear from bus stops ? I've sat with the line info open and seen passenger numbers fall without a bus turning up at the stop. It's not like there's 'that many' people at the stop as I see it with 50-60 people at a stop.

[BucketBrain]

Originally posted by mbutton15:

I don't run large cities so I'm unlikely to get to game limits. So what is happening when people disappear from bus stops ? I've sat with the line info open and seen passenger numbers fall without a bus turning up at the stop. It's not like there's 'that many' people at the stop as I see it with 50-60 people at a stop.

A dropping count at stops is a ``running out of time´´ marker , something happened , they moved slower than calculated . Maybe the default calculation was getting the first bus and the capacity don´t meets the volume at rush hour , it doubles the waiting time and skips the calculation
If you look at the stop with the dropping count , what do you see ?
1. pulling out a pocket car
- most times by tourist , it is the last option to keep them in game
or pops , if enough agents
are free
- disappearing without any trace : teleporting of pops or despawn of tourists

This one shows the timer at stops and gives some more features to analyse the flow :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=928128676
Have fun

[leftbehind]

What you see at the city gate is "pocket cars" - very common in vanilla game, cims will just magic a car out of their pocket after using public transport, and sometimes when reaching destination in a car they'll magically disappear it in to their pocket and proceed on foot to destination.

[BucketBrain]

Originally posted by aubergine18:

What you see at the city gate is "pocket cars" - very common in vanilla game, cims will just magic a car out of their pocket after using public transport, and sometimes when reaching destination in a car they'll magically disappear it in to their pocket and proceed on foot to destination.

Yep , maybe out of topic , but what do you think about this , he winns 4 souares compared to the walking one .
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1604770191
In general , l would be interested in some informations about the speed and different speed settings of pedestrians . Any tip where or how to get them ?
edit link

[leftbehind]

I'm not sure what the default speed is for pedestrians in vanilla game, but there's a Realistic Walking Speeds mod which might have the answers.

[BucketBrain]

Thanks , l´ll have a look at the mod

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by mbutton15:

It's a word that I've seen pop up in a few discussions lately and just want to know what it is ?

Is it linked with despawning ? I'm more familiar with that as my understanding is if a vehicle or person can't arrive at their destination in time they despawn to prevent excess clogging. I also understood that it meant, in relation to freight at least, that the freight delivery failed and a new one will start in an attempt to replace it.

To me, teleporting sounds like things magically do arrive at their destination, which is why it sounds different to despawning ?

It would have helpped if you would have linked the reference of teleporting you were referring to.

I use the term teleporting for Office IT's delivery of goods to commerce, as they don't use freight vehicles to deliver goods, they just magically arrive. It was a mechanic introduced with Green Cities DLC to alleviate traffic. This way you could have commerce without huge industrial complexes importing, exporting, and delivering goods.

Also, when you build your city, the buildings are empty, so the game teleports cims to work, then your cims drive in from the outside connection and drive to their new home, then they drive to work. If they fail, they keep trying to drive to work, but they are always at work.

If you build two districts, one residential and the other commerce/industry, then cims will teleport to work and be happy. This will eliminate a lot of traffic.

These are the only ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Despawning has to do with cims being on a timer and if they fail (time out) they despawn off the map and try again. They do this over and over until they succeed. This can cause a lot of traffic if you don't make sure things are in balance. i.e. residential close to jobs and commerce/industry close to each other, Also clear roads so traffic doesn't get delayed.

Remember, cims will prefer to walk if they are within 12 blocks of their destination. Otherwise they will spawn a pocket car and drive. Same with sitting at a bus stop, or other stop, for too long.

I forgot, you can hit game limits early in your city as the vehicle limit is only 16k. So freight is usually the biggest problem in your city. Make sure industry and commerce are close together and on a highway for quick delivery. I usually make large shopping malls and industrial complexes rather than sprawling shops all over the place, which causes a lot of traffic from freight driving all over your residential streets.