This didn't age well.

[CaleoGaming]

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE resident evil 4. Across PS2/VR/PC i have finished it at least 40 times and spent countless hours playing it.
And most certainly, the humour, the quirky jokes,characters and cutscenes were GREAT. And the remake does not bring the same amount of goofyness and fun into it, not even close.

But gameplay wise? I just played it through now and my goodness, the gameplay did not age well. People saying Leon is slow and sluggish in the new one, should definitely try and play this again and compare. Tank controls just don't do well in 2023. That might just be us being too spoiled today, or maybe it's just not holding up to today's standards.

This game is still very charming but I must swallow the tough pill which is, I actually prefer the remake over the original overall. But man... I miss old Saddler. They did him so dirty in the new remake.

[RejectedID]

thats like your opinion dude

[finlandslim]

Or maybe, and here me out on this, maybe the two games should not be compared and decided which one is better because the two game are completely different, made by entirely different teams nearly 20 years apart of each other.

I'm playing the og 2005 version now with re4 hd project and having an immense amount of fun. I don't care if the remake is better or not.

[Lars]

My problem is i dont get why they needed to remake this game now?. If anything they should have tried FMV graphics or something and then remake RE4, now THAT would have been cool. But RE4 already looks amazing.

[mw00]

Tank controls are not a problem if you get used to them. You are much faster in this game if you learn the controls than in the remake since Leon doesn't have logarithmic movement inertia here (in the original movement speed goes from 0 to 100 movement speed right away). And not to mention the fact that you are 100% accurate, while the remake has a cross hair zeroing time.

[Ace]

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE resident evil 4. Across PS2/VR/PC i have finished it at least 40 times and spent countless hours playing it.
And most certainly, the humour, the quirky jokes,characters and cutscenes were GREAT. And the remake does not bring the same amount of goofyness and fun into it, not even close.

But gameplay wise? I just played it through now and my goodness, the gameplay did not age well. People saying Leon is slow and sluggish in the new one, should definitely try and play this again and compare. Tank controls just don't do well in 2023. That might just be us being too spoiled today, or maybe it's just not holding up to today's standards.

This game is still very charming but I must swallow the tough pill which is, I actually prefer the remake over the original overall. But man... I miss old Saddler. They did him so dirty in the new remake.

Get ready to get blasted by all the rabid fans.

Honestly, I'm on a completely different boat. I think Resident evil 4 is what everyone blamed resident evil 5/6 for.

It's the start of the extremely goofy, anime-esque characters, the beginning of the end for survival horror. Resident evil 4 ripped away all of the tension, horror and grotesque monsters, all of the colorful, varied locations and terrifying bloodstained halls and instead we got....

Rural brown village, surrounded by brown dead trees and brown buildings.

And then that same village. At night.

Then we have....a castle. For some reason. Don't ask questions, it's just there. Just...a random castle. In the middle of nowhere. With a zombie-dwarf-god that turns into a Neo-Contra boss after giving you his evil overlord speech. Unsurprisingly, it is also mostly brown.

Then we have a small detour into underground labs, which turns into - you guessed it - brown caves. More God forsaken brown.

I mean, think about it. Everyone talks mad crap on Chris "punches boulders to death" Redfield....how about Mr.Leon-runs-from-cartoon-boulders-like-a-nerd-Kennedy?

Dude's legs are straight up defying the laws of gravity, momentum and time. Any faster and he'd tear a hole straight through to the speed force and dickslap The Flash.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

This game aged very well with this mode here >>>

https://www.re4hd.com/?page_id=9303

Just go into the mod option via f1 and choose between RE5 or RE6 style of cam behavior, set your fov to 20-30 and turn of cam auto reset for all 3 options.

This way you will have a great time with this game, i at least have a blast thats for sure ;-)

[melojei]

this game aged excellently.

[melojei]

Originally posted by Lars:

i dont get why they needed to remake this game now?

money, and also it was the next one down the list, they seem to be doing them in order, lol.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by melojei.:

Originally posted by Lars:

i dont get why they needed to remake this game now?

money, and also it was the next one down the list, they seem to be doing them in order, lol.

You have to imagine, the remake has already 9 paid dlcs and does not even include the ada and mecenarie mode and now read this >>>

https://www.dualshockers.com/resident-evil-4-remake-dlc-2023/

https://dotesports.com/resident-evil/news/is-the-separate-ways-dlc-included-in-resident-evil-4-remake

In the second link there is even this line >>>

"The good news is that Resident Evil leakers suspect the Separate Ways DLC will be a paid expansion that will be released sometime after Resident Evil 4 remake launches."

(The good news is you have to pay for something thats most likely already finished)

If they really going to ask money for that, they become the number one gangsters for me in the gaming industry, closely followed by square and their 80 bucks for a 1/3 game policy.

Its unbelieveable that people give applause to such borderless greedy and shady business.

[CaleoGaming]

You're right this is indeed my opinion, and it turns out it upset a lot of peoples feelings. And yes we should compare cause why else would you bother making a remake? It's SUPPOSED to be an updated game, built from the ground up. That's the whole idea of a remake. Whether people choose the positives or negatives that depends how you look at it. In this case I looked at some negatives. Yes tank controls can be fast, everyone knows this. But that doesn't mean it isn't clunky as hell. Even speedrunners, you know, people who are actually better than the average rage poster on this thread, complains about tank controls, this isn't old news.

[finlandslim]

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

You're right this is indeed my opinion, and it turns out it upset a lot of peoples feelings. And yes we should compare cause why else would you bother making a remake? It's SUPPOSED to be an updated game, built from the ground up. That's the whole idea of a remake. Whether people choose the positives or negatives that depends how you look at it. In this case I looked at some negatives. Yes tank controls can be fast, everyone knows this. But that doesn't mean it isn't clunky as hell. Even speedrunners, you know, people who are actually better than the average rage poster on this thread, complains about tank controls, this isn't old news.

Tank controls are not clunky if you spend 30 minutes playing. The point of a remake it not to update the old game, it's to build the game from ground up. You shouldn't compare them because the two games are fundamentally different and are a product of their time. Why do you want to state which one is better so much? What do you gain from that? OG fans won't agree with you anyway. If you love the remake you can go and post how you love it on its steam page.

[finlandslim]

Originally posted by Unbound Cross:

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE resident evil 4. Across PS2/VR/PC i have finished it at least 40 times and spent countless hours playing it.
And most certainly, the humour, the quirky jokes,characters and cutscenes were GREAT. And the remake does not bring the same amount of goofyness and fun into it, not even close.

But gameplay wise? I just played it through now and my goodness, the gameplay did not age well. People saying Leon is slow and sluggish in the new one, should definitely try and play this again and compare. Tank controls just don't do well in 2023. That might just be us being too spoiled today, or maybe it's just not holding up to today's standards.

This game is still very charming but I must swallow the tough pill which is, I actually prefer the remake over the original overall. But man... I miss old Saddler. They did him so dirty in the new remake.

Get ready to get blasted by all the rabid fans.

Honestly, I'm on a completely different boat. I think Resident evil 4 is what everyone blamed resident evil 5/6 for.

It's the start of the extremely goofy, anime-esque characters, the beginning of the end for survival horror. Resident evil 4 ripped away all of the tension, horror and grotesque monsters, all of the colorful, varied locations and terrifying bloodstained halls and instead we got....

Rural brown village, surrounded by brown dead trees and brown buildings.

And then that same village. At night.

Then we have....a castle. For some reason. Don't ask questions, it's just there. Just...a random castle. In the middle of nowhere. With a zombie-dwarf-god that turns into a Neo-Contra boss after giving you his evil overlord speech. Unsurprisingly, it is also mostly brown.

Then we have a small detour into underground labs, which turns into - you guessed it - brown caves. More God forsaken brown.

I mean, think about it. Everyone talks mad crap on Chris "punches boulders to death" Redfield....how about Mr.Leon-runs-from-cartoon-boulders-like-a-nerd-Kennedy?

Dude's legs are straight up defying the laws of gravity, momentum and time. Any faster and he'd tear a hole straight through to the speed force and dickslap The Flash.

A game from 2005 has bad graphics, big revelation right here. But at least it isn't creatively bankrupt like the sterile modern RE games which removed anything a blue-haired twitter "feminist" deemed offensive.

[Harris]

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

my goodness, the gameplay did not age well.

You know OP, I will take tank controls all day any day if it means it takes 1 shot to the knee for the enemy to stagger rather than 4. If it means one enemy won't stunlock me while the other two won't hit me the next millisecond. Remake's higher difficulties are unplayable outside of infinite ammo machine gun or rocket launcher. The way to succeed in combat is to unload tons of lead to center of mass.

I appreciate some quality of life in the remake like free backtracking in the castle area and the ability to get infinite ammo on any gun and not only the pre-designed ones. But the negatives far outweigh it for me. One of the selling points was no QTEs - but in reality, play on Professional and Krauser fight becomes as obnoxious as OG if not more. And with the strict window for perfect parry the mechanic might as well be thrown out of the window.

Originally posted by evil#end/of/gaming:

Its unbelieveable that people give applause to such borderless greedy and shady business.

Let's get real here for a second, as of today Capcom should no longer have been around. RE3make should've bankrupted it and shut it down. An outsourced asset flip that doesn't give a damn about the source material with little replayability and zero post launch support.

Instead, it was a commercial success and was lauded in the reviews as at least "adequate" if not a "10/10 GOTY masterpiece". What does that tell you? They will keep making products with minimal investment and maximum asset reuse for maximum profit utilizing the most aggressive monetization strategies they can think of - because there are millions out there who will happily spend big dollar on that, write a positive review and ask for more.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Harris:

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

my goodness, the gameplay did not age well.

Originally posted by evil#end/of/gaming:

Its unbelieveable that people give applause to such borderless greedy and shady business.

Instead, it was a commercial success and was lauded in the reviews as at least "adequate" if not a "10/10 GOTY masterpiece". What does that tell you? They will keep making products with minimal investment and maximum asset reuse for maximum profit utilizing the most aggressive monetization strategies they can think of - because there are millions out there who will happily spend big dollar on that, write a positive review and ask for more.

"They will keep making products with minimal investment and maximum asset reuse for maximum profit utilizing the most aggressive monetization strategies they can think of - because there are millions out there who will happily spend big dollar on that"

Yes, unfortunately that still remains true and maybe it's naïve to think that will change one day, but I certainly won't write a positive review xD

[finlandslim]

Originally posted by Harris:

Originally posted by CaleoGaming:

my goodness, the gameplay did not age well.

You know OP, I will take tank controls all day any day if it means it takes 1 shot to the knee for the enemy to stagger rather than 4. If it means one enemy won't stunlock me while the other two won't hit me the next millisecond. Remake's higher difficulties are unplayable outside of infinite ammo machine gun or rocket launcher. The way to succeed in combat is to unload tons of lead to center of mass.

I appreciate some quality of life in the remake like free backtracking in the castle area and the ability to get infinite ammo on any gun and not only the pre-designed ones. But the negatives far outweigh it for me. One of the selling points was no QTEs - but in reality, play on Professional and Krauser fight becomes as obnoxious as OG if not more. And with the strict window for perfect parry the mechanic might as well be thrown out of the window.

Originally posted by evil#end/of/gaming:

Its unbelieveable that people give applause to such borderless greedy and shady business.

Let's get real here for a second, as of today Capcom should no longer have been around. RE3make should've bankrupted it and shut it down. An outsourced asset flip that doesn't give a damn about the source material with little replayability and zero post launch support.

Instead, it was a commercial success and was lauded in the reviews as at least "adequate" if not a "10/10 GOTY masterpiece". What does that tell you? They will keep making products with minimal investment and maximum asset reuse for maximum profit utilizing the most aggressive monetization strategies they can think of - because there are millions out there who will happily spend big dollar on that, write a positive review and ask for more.

Only RE3 was outsources. You can call Rem4ke anything but it's not cheap.