.22 Plinkington vs .17 MHR Lever Action

[Rhapsodae]

HI all,

I am looking to get me a varmint rifle and fell in love with both of these:
.22 Semi-Automatic Rifle Plinkington vs .17 HMR Lever Action Rifle


I like to know which of these is your favourite. Because to me they both look great, are silent and fit scopes for distance. The .17 has an edge on species for me but the .22 looks slick.

Go!

[Mondyrocks]

.17mm all day long.
As far as it being weak for foxes that makes no difference.
The comparison is between a .22 and the .17mm and you can't shoot foxes with the .22 so people saying that it's poor, for that reason, are missing the point really.

The .17mm shoots lovely and flat and as Alf Tupper says, it's great for picking off pheasants and long range geese from a blind or the edge of a field.

The Plinkington is still very good though but I prefer the .17mm :)

[Alf Tupper]

I'm getting the feeling thre spook radius on the .17 is a bit bigger than the .22, but no science to it, just a feeling. Otherwise - it's a laser cannon.

[chrisben1]

Other than the 1000 Hunter Score points for the weapon, plus another 1000 for the pistol, and the added immersion. No point at all.

[chrisben1]

You get 1000 points for each animal you harvest up to the first 1000, you get 1000 points for each weapon you use up to the first 1000. If you have different skins for a weapon, like the .22 plinkington, 3 different skins, you only get 1000 using any combination of skins or just one skin.

[Nicpus]

the 17 hmr has not much bullet drop so you can point aim and shot and prob hitt but it dosent do much damage... the 22 plinkington has abit more bullet drop but does more damage!

[ᗷᑌᒪᗩᗰᗩTᗩRI]

A little late, but for those who are interested in buying one of the two or even both:

If at all, then it would be the .17 HMR, short for .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (not MHR), developed from the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire = .22 WMR, which is NOT the .22 lr for the Plinkington. The Plinkington in fact fires only pistol ammunition, hence you can't find the ammo under rifle ammo in the shop. For comparison purposes, here is a .17 HMR next to a .22lr: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/17HMR_and_22LR_B.jpg

If I want to also hunt hares on the side, as a by-catch so to speak, I bring my .22 pistol, the Grasshopper. That's the Plinkington ... in short. Capacity costs only 1 unit, compared to 3 units of a Plinkington, same ammo weight, 2-6x20mm Handgun Scope attachable. My longest kill was 187.38m. Instant kill of a snowshoe hare. Takes a fair amount of probe shots, but since it's as silent as the rifles above you hardly ever spook anything, certainly never in the target area at long distances.

I have this thingy for years now and yet only 44 kills with it. That's how much I am into hare hunting with these calibres. As for the probe shots: the stats says 158 shots fired. ;) So much for using this calibre for hunting rabbits or turkeys with it. I'm in fact rather a bow hunter when I want to be silent. I don't use those weapons. They're only ballast to me. With my bow I kill with ease anything up to 60m, beyond that it starts to become a bit of guesswork.

I only bring the Grasshopper when I am on Whiterime and have some inventory space left and only for completing missions, getting achievements and mainly for competitions. But I'm not interested in hares anyway, let alone turkeys. Utterly boring. And as for turkeys: a tremendously ugly folk. Don't want to harvest them.

Speaking of capacity costs of the two rifles (the .22 Plinkington is in fact just an improved pistol with an extended barrel): both consume 3 units of your inventory plus the ammo weight.

.17 HMR and .22lr cost you 0.25, the HMR HV (High Velocity) costs you 0.26, means, if you want to use the .17 HMR Lever Action Rifle to its full potential, you'd need both ammo types, so it cost you 3 + 0.51 units. And if you use a half auto rifle like the Plinkington you'd certainly also bring more than one package of ammo.

But: weight-wise they're as heavy as a .223, .243, even as a 7mm Magnum Bullpup Rifle, the two 7mm Magnum Break Action Rifles (Bouquetin and Stambecco) and the almighty 7mm-08 Scout Bolt Action Rifle! The ammo for the magnum rifles however weighs of course significantly more (0.4 or 0.45 units for 10 rounds).

Scope-wise the .17 HMR and Plinkington can't use a 2-10x42 Rifle Scope. For me it's the most precise rifle scope with a real life 4A-hunting-reticle to measure distances with,if you want to know how: the width from the middle of the crosshair to either of the thicker bars equals the lengths (or height respectively) of a roe deer buck at a 100m distance. Works also for all animals of similar size. I've tested it in the field, works just like in real life. You have to choose the correct zoom factor, though, or it won't work. What all the hash marks of the other fancy scopes mean... I have no idea, they're way too many, like somebody tried to designed some sniper scopes for hunting which don't really exist. Way too confusing for me when things become hasty, too many marks, and I didn't feel like testing if even one of these gazillion hash marks is really useful for measuring distances on the fly. Hence I favour the 2-10x42 hunting scope.

As I said, your two rifles can't use it, they can use the 3-9x40mm Anschütz Rifle Scope and for higher magnification the obnoxious 12x50mm Rifle Scope. I hate the latter, way to imprecise for my liking, I own it but I never use it anymore. Both rifles can't use the 'spotting' scope 5.5-22x56mm either. The 22x comes in very handy to improve your spotting skill faster without buying and carrying an extra spotting scope (0.6 capacity costs vs. 0.5 for the rifle scope). That's why I carry also the 5.5-22x56mm, as for precision it's just as awful as the 12x50mm, which is why I try to avoid shooting with it, but I could shoot with it, when needed. With an extra spotting scope I could not. ;)

So far, so not so good. Well, what are these two peashooter 'rifles' good for?

I can't really see any reason to buy them except for hunting hares and turkey at long distances and silently(!). That's what they're good (or even made) for. And by long distance I mean... really long! E.g. in competitions like "Harendously far", where you gotta harvest a Snowshoe Hare from the longest distance with a single shot. You want to kill one at 350 to 400 m to win. Which rifle would you use for that? The .17 HMR of course. You gotta bring the .17 HMR, the HMR HV is not permitted.

Although you could also kill at 500 m with a .22 Plinkington (if you can and take a ton of probe shots), but what else can you hunt with this... thingamabob? Utterly superfluous rifle.

With a .223 you can hunt everything from coyote down to turkey (below turkey is all the ground game like hares and all the fowls, ducks and whatnot). And I am not talking about any other fowl, since birds with a G-score result in 0 (zero) CCS scores. 0 CCS = 0 gm$! So, shots wasted, you gain nothing from it when you shoot fowl on the ground. Good luck with shooting those birds when they're airborne to get a CSS score and thus ingame money to rebuy ammo. What would you use for a fowl hunt instead? Right, shotguns: Pump action, lever action, O/U or double barrel, even Semi-Automatic Shotgun... have your pick. Plus ammo is for free and can be used to hunt almost every species in the game, with the only exceptions being the biggest three: water buffalo, banteng and bison. The ammo still gets replenished for free (30 shots) when you start a new hunt.

So, basically you can only effectively hunt rabbits and turkeys with the Plinkington. And I'm not even sure if turkeys do not also have a G-score, thus do not score a CSS when shot on the ground, but I assume they do score CSS, no matter how you shot them, but it's just an assumption. If not, it's even useless to hunt turkeys with the Plinkington, unless you wanted to give yourself an extra hard time shooting them out of the sky.

Conclusion: the .17 HMR is a fully grown small calibre rifle, way more versatile than the Plinkington, as you can at least also effectively hunt all small game up to coyote, thus also lynxes and all foxes (when you use the .17 HMR High Velocity rounds), while with the Plinkington you can only hunt effectively rabbits, and that's it.

As for the .17 HMR, the main advantage of it is, that it outguns any bow or crossbow at longer distances, given that you keep a proper distance to your targets, then it's just as silent plus insta-kills at tremendously longer distances.

And when you have ever hunted lynxes, you probably already value its silent character... there's nothing more annoying than sneaking around for hours to find and lure in lynxes, waiting for them to appear and then fire with a .223 or .243 and spooking everything around you for the next 14-18 ingame minutes. You are doomed to use a bow or crossbow (I always use a bow since the crossbow is too wind sensitive for my liking at longer distances). But with a (though quite heavy) .17 HMR in your backpack, you can shoot them when you spot them, no matter how far away they are. And you get away with it unheard, if you did it right. ;)

No doubt, the .17 HMR is head and shoulders better than the .22 Plinkington, it outguns it in every aspect. Maybe the firing rate of the Plinkington is better, but it's not like the .17 HMR lever action was like a bolt action rifle, it's still lever action and thus a quick-shooter as well. It's a rifle with high-tech ammo instead of .22lr pistol ammo. But also no wonder that it's the superior small calibre rifle, because the .17 HMR Lever Action Rifle was introduced and added to theHunter on June 21, 2017, while the Plinkington is from April 29, 2015. The game has improved ever since, and so has the selection of available modern rifles.

Hope this helps anybody to make the right choice, although there's not really a wrong one. Each man to his own. But if you want to save some of your precious credits, you want to think twice, since there's no refund possible if you picked the ... not so good rifle. Waidmanns Heil!

Edit: One more thing: I've heard of .17 HMR lovers who used to shoot with it when they're young boys or maybe even still using it, that the ingame .17 HMR was nowhere near as good as its real counterpart. Too weak, too off, whatever. So, if you already know or own a real .17 HMR and expect a realistic implementation of it in theHunter... they say it's not it. Bear that in mind too. I don't own one, so I'm no judge of it.

[Exploatores]

Messaggio originale di Rhapsodae:

This post is two years ago. Come on!

I guess you got one of them or both.