must play with SSD?

[Lowenstein]

is this game must played in SSD ? because in requirement is said so, i want to install in hdd because i want to saved my ssd memories and this is old tales game which is low in spec requirement..

[steven]

How can we know if the game is not out yet ? There is no comparison (FPS, loading, weight...) between PS3 version and PC remaster.
We can make general assumptions based on basic specs tho.

In general, SSD is always better than an HDD.
SSD has faster loading times (assets, transitions, loading the save, booting...) and games are designed for SSD speed nowadays. You will have problems playing new games with an HDD (and HDD is outdated now)

Here we are on an old game remade, so while we don't know if it's very important to have an SSD or an HDD, it's still 100% better to play it on an SSD. And they recommend it on the requirement page !

[AceMan#1]

I never use an hdd anymore when playing games and even ssd is reaching the end of me putting up with it since it takes over 7 hours to transfer all my games and stuff to an external backup drive it is more of a pain thdn it is worth not to mention games run even better and more smoothly on a nvme drive so in a year or two I am moving onto nvme drives only especially since they are dropping even further in price now.

[AceMan#1]

You will probably get horrible often delays like a freeze for 2-5 seconds making the real time combat unplayable if using an hdd that has anything 7200rpms and under. I tried playing tales of symphonia on my ps3 and the 7200rpm hdd in it I had to swap out for an ssd as it would have random freezing delays. That said I still wouldn't attempt it as this is running a much newer tales of engine and is more modern, I highly doubt any rpm hdd could handle this game properly unless it was back on the ps3 but since this is a ps3 port of it then no just no don't even try.

[Lowenstein]

Originally posted by AceMan#1:

You will probably get horrible often delays like a freeze for 2-5 seconds making the real time combat unplayable if using an hdd that has anything 7200rpms and under. I tried playing tales of symphonia on my ps3 and the 7200rpm hdd in it I had to swap out for an ssd as it would have random freezing delays. That said I still wouldn't attempt it as this is running a much newer tales of engine and is more modern, I highly doubt any rpm hdd could handle this game properly unless it was back on the ps3 but since this is a ps3 port of it then no just no don't even try.

i see.

last time . early desember i play tales of symphonia in steam in HDD . and tales of arise in 2021-22 work fine.

in 2025 there are graces remast and ff7rebirth. the requirement said ssd. so i choose to upgrade my Nvme..

thx for the info 👍

[AceMan#1]

Just a heads up I forgot to mention tales of games ported from ps3 to pc I heard is harder to make work om a hdd I forget exactly why but it has to do with the way ps3 gamss ran so differently such as the way it was coded or maybe the low gpu dam it had or the crazy security that comsole or what not, all I kmow is the ps3 is more much involved than the ps4 and ps5 would be to port.

[AceMan#1]

Yeah the ps3 was crazy bad console in a way, even transferring saves to a new ps3 console from my older dead ps3 console was the most involved and difficult time I had on any console up that point and I had owned all Nintendo consoles since Nes and up era and all Sony console ps1 and up.

[Protos Heis]

An SSD would mean shorter load times. Playing on a spinning HDD would be similar to the PS3's disc loading times.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by Protos Heis:

An SSD would mean shorter load times. Playing on a spinning HDD would be similar to the PS3's disc loading times.

That's one slow ass HDD. HDDs are orders of magnitude faster than optical media.

[AceMan#1]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by Protos Heis:

An SSD would mean shorter load times. Playing on a spinning HDD would be similar to the PS3's disc loading times.

That's one slow ass HDD. HDDs are orders of magnitude faster than optical media.

Yep you are correct but a ton of people not tech savy don't even know this including my parents lol.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by AceMan#1:

I never use an hdd anymore when playing games and even ssd is reaching the end of me putting up with it since it takes over 7 hours to transfer all my games and stuff to an external backup drive it is more of a pain thdn it is worth not to mention games run even better and more smoothly on a nvme drive so in a year or two I am moving onto nvme drives only especially since they are dropping even further in price now.

Yeah NVME drives are basically the new SSD. You see current SSD's are speed capped because of the wire you use to connect it to the pc, a wire like that only has so much bandwith it can take and thats what caps them out. NVME drives bypass the wire entirely and hook directly into the motherboard. I don't think they even need a power cable its just powered from the motherboard. I don't have one myself though yet anyway.

[Lowenstein]

Originally posted by Scyris:

Originally posted by AceMan#1:

I never use an hdd anymore when playing games and even ssd is reaching the end of me putting up with it since it takes over 7 hours to transfer all my games and stuff to an external backup drive it is more of a pain thdn it is worth not to mention games run even better and more smoothly on a nvme drive so in a year or two I am moving onto nvme drives only especially since they are dropping even further in price now.

Yeah NVME drives are basically the new SSD. You see current SSD's are speed capped because of the wire you use to connect it to the pc, a wire like that only has so much bandwith it can take and thats what caps them out. NVME drives bypass the wire entirely and hook directly into the motherboard. I don't think they even need a power cable its just powered from the motherboard. I don't have one myself though yet anyway.

recently i just buy nvme adapter to pcie x1 ( because my motherboard only have x1 slot available, there are nvme adapt x4 also)

the speed is great .
x1 adapter --> up to 800++ MB/s
x4 adapt --> up to 2000 MB/s

so the conclusion , x1 adapter is better than ssd sata 3

[mcnichoj]

lmao, it's a port of a game that was originally on the Wii.

[AceMan#1]

Originally posted by mcnichoj:

lmao, it's a port of a game that was originally on the Wii. :balloonicorn:

It's not a port based off the wii though if it was then it wouldn't need an ssd on this pc port, it is a definitive version with a whole future adult arc added and bugs were fixed and graphics were upped and other stuff was added in. The requirements are higher for drives for most ports compared to their console versions, idk why but it's just how it is I guess... Oh and the wii is a weaker console than the gamecube was so if graces was porting to pc based off the wii version I highly doubt it would need an ssd.

[Rocket2049]

that's odd, arise doesn't need SSD, Zestiria doesn't, vesperia doesn't
graces is pretty much lower graphics then all those.
it's prob just gonna load longer is all, idk why they said REQUIRED

even baldurs gate 3 said SSD required i'm playing without one and just loading times.

ratchet and clank rift apart also said required, i play it without one but that one locks up quite a bit (the game was built be INSTANT loads so you get slowdown and freezes until the drive catches up

long story short, wii game, they barely did anything to it but add cheats

[Simon]

HDD is more than enough.