do vending machine rentals work on solo?

[Umbra Animo]

so I tend to play solo mode and never messed with the rent-able vending machines so before I do. Do they work on solo worlds or only if another player uses them?

[Brevan]

NPCs will buy stuff from a rented vending machine (this is the vending machine rented at a trader, you may only rent 1 vending machine (I think), this is not the vending machine sold in the Trader's inventory (this might not even exist in A21, I haven't noticed)).

It's pretty rare (once per alpha) that I bother experimenting with renting Vending Machines, but they're usually worth checking twice a week to see if anything's sold. Last I checked (A20), their display was still buggy in that it didn't show how much money was available for you, so just click the collect-money button.

They're a good but slow way of getting extra dukes since your items will sell for more than the Trader would buy them, even if you discount your items for faster vending.

[Sundaysmiles]

Try it and see if it works out for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYLCJnt-6fA

[KromeHWI]

in a21, ive had a ton of stuff sitting in a vending machine at my local trader joels in navesgane (sp) for several weeks now and nothing has sold, despite setting it to maximum 80% discount... does this really still work? i know it used to work in a20... does it matter if its a store close by (or does the chunk have to reload or something?)?

[Corsin]

I personally haven't tried it yet but I have seen videos by a few people (like the one above) that show it does work.

[DthBlayde]

Originally posted by .♥~*°("_")°*~♥.:

xDDD... In what you don't understand "vending machine rental" ?

So in single, the answer is no, no one will buy what you rent...

& because if not that will be illogic to can sell our items to trader if we could simply easy use a vending machine rental to win more money...

Except that is EXACTLY how it would work. Trader buys up enough of a certain item to where he doesn't buy anymore. You rent the vending machine (good for 30 game days) then load it up with everything else.

The trick is, if it's too expensive, it doesn't sell. So it's not really a free money maker. More like, expensive extra storage that maaaaaaaaybe something will actually get bought by a mysterious survivor.

[seven]

You misunderstand. "Virtual survivors" are indeed supposed to buy stuff from the player rented machines, even in single player. It doesn't seem to work well though.

[James]

Originally posted by .♥~*°("_")°*~♥.:

xDDD... You need to follow the conversation because you misunderstood...

That talk about it when we play in single & not on server & so no players to buy & so they thought it that will be bought in auto by a virtual bot...

That is how it works--- in both MP AND single player. You rent a vending machine, place items you wanna sell and then the game rolls a chance of those items being 'bought' in exchange for the price you listed them at. The game roll is essentially a virtual impression of another survivor in the world buying your stuff, even though you can't physically see them.

The only difference in MP is that REAL players can ALSO buy your stuff too, and if they don't then the game roll will still 'buy' them from you.

[James]

Originally posted by KromeHWI:

in a21, ive had a ton of stuff sitting in a vending machine at my local trader joels in navesgane (sp) for several weeks now and nothing has sold, despite setting it to maximum 80% discount... does this really still work? i know it used to work in a20... does it matter if its a store close by (or does the chunk have to reload or something?)?

It could just be bad RNG. But if it's been that long then I would try to remove the items, wait one day, and place them back. Maybe even switch up a few of them with better items.

One thing I've noticed is that it seems harder to sell items that are below your own game stage. So if your GS is high and you are seeing T4 steel items in loot for example, it's going to hard to sell stone items. Likewise for the opposite too. If you're still in the iron age then it's going to be easier to sell steel items.

[Corsin]

In the experiments I see, stacks of stone seem to be very common to try to sell, and they bring in alot of dukes apparently. The guy in the video above made over 9 million dukes off stone.

[KromeHWI]

so the real question is: is it confirmed that it DOES still work this way in a21? like has anyone actually successfully sold something this way to "virtual survivors" (NOT other players)? i am playing mp but on my own server with a friend on my "team" and no one else. so obv neither of us are going to buy what we put in the vending machine because it came from our own supply overflow (if we needed it we would just use it).

like, for example: i have a ton of stacks of 7.62 at 80% off in there (a hell of a deal on ammo if someone were to buy it), as well as some decent batteries and helmets etc... nothing so far has sold.

if i can confirm that things DO still occasionally sell i can chalk it up to bad rng and just keep trying and eventually ill get dukes for something maybe, but if no one here has actually sold anything the verdict is still out of if this feature still exists in the game as it did in a20 and before

[Max Headroom]

Originally posted by KromeHWI:

so the real question is: is it confirmed that it DOES still work this way in a21? like has anyone actually successfully sold something this way to "virtual survivors" (NOT other players)?

Yes.
In A21.1. I placed a bunch of stone plus some gems that turned up during mining. I think it was something over 10-15 game days though.

[James]

Originally posted by .♥~*°("_")°*~♥.:

xDDD... You miss something...

Im not missing anything. You were obviously mistaken when you said vending machines are only for multiplayer and they dont work in single player, when in fact they do.

Also, just for future reference, here's something else you didn't seem to know. This game doesn't have a single player mode. You can play solo but you are still running a server and so anything you can do on a multiplayer server you can also do in solo play-- I.e renting vending machines.

Originally posted by .♥~*°("_")°*~♥.:

Actually that be suppose can be buy by NPC & the prices must still not be more expensive than those of the traders...

I can't understand what youre saying here.

Originally posted by .♥~*°("_")°*~♥.:

But, how you wan that will be buy by a NPC or any virutal NPC/player/survivor if dev have not yet implement NPC in game ? ? ?

This is barely English but I'm guessing what you are trying to say is; How can an NPC, or virtual survivor, buy items when the devs haven't even put NPCs in the game yet?

The answer is just as I described it above. In fact, the answer is right there within the question---virtual. Meaning a simulated survivor that only exists in code but is not physically in the game. Much like the 'Duke' or the pilot of the plane that make those air drops. We don't see them but we know they are there in a virtual sense.

[James]

Originally posted by KromeHWI:

so the real question is: is it confirmed that it DOES still work this way in a21? like has anyone actually successfully sold something this way to "virtual survivors" (NOT other players)? i am playing mp but on my own server with a friend on my "team" and no one else. so obv neither of us are going to buy what we put in the vending machine because it came from our own supply overflow (if we needed it we would just use it).

like, for example: i have a ton of stacks of 7.62 at 80% off in there (a hell of a deal on ammo if someone were to buy it), as well as some decent batteries and helmets etc... nothing so far has sold.

if i can confirm that things DO still occasionally sell i can chalk it up to bad rng and just keep trying and eventually ill get dukes for something maybe, but if no one here has actually sold anything the verdict is still out of if this feature still exists in the game as it did in a20 and before

Yes. I can confirm it is does work, 100%.

You can even test it yourself in 5 minutes.

Start a game,
Open the console (F1) and type dm
ESC to pause,
Click 'Open POI Teleporter'
Search 'trader' and click on any of them
Open the console (F) and type cm
Use the creative mode to give yourself Dukes and bunch of random items
Rent a vending machine and place the items in it to sell.

Press ESC to pause and use the day slider on the right to fast forward the game to day 16 and then check the vending machine to see how much you sold.

If you wanna test it for 30 days or more then you can use the settime command;
st dd hr min

[KromeHWI]

Originally posted by max_welton_2k:

Originally posted by KromeHWI:

so the real question is: is it confirmed that it DOES still work this way in a21? like has anyone actually successfully sold something this way to "virtual survivors" (NOT other players)?

Yes.
In A21.1. I placed a bunch of stone plus some gems that turned up during mining. I think it was something over 10-15 game days though.

thank you for confirming this. i guess ill just have to wait and pray to the RNG gods that these things will eventually give me a minor bump of dukes i honestly dont even need anymore haha... at this point in the game we have unlocked everything we need and have all the things we need from crafting and looting so we dont even need dukes anymore anyway... its more that i dont want to literally dump the stuff on the ground to despawn.

[Punkerich]

I wouldn't consider myself a pro in this game, not at all, and wondered about those vending machines myself for quite the time. Let me share my experience.

I rented and stuffed a machine at a trader, having my base like on the opposite side of the street. Stuffed it with items of varying value at different discounts.
Checked every day, and on some occasions i had some k dukes to collect, not much, but okay-ish. Then i read about the stone thing, and addes some stacks of those, maybe 2-3.
No luck on that.
Days later, i removed evrything but the stone, leaving only a small amount of other items in it. No luck. Not once i had a batch of stone sold.

Then, i moved my base, like more than 1km away, while still having days on the rented machine left.
Came back several days later, zero to collect. Checked the trader inventory, and checked the machine again, suddenly something was sold.
This seemed to be the case everytime i left and came back some days later, zero at first, a tadbit of dukes after checking some minutes later.
To me it seems like you have to have the chunk loaded or something, otherwise it does nothing. Only my experience, feel free to discuss.

Maybe the stone thing only works if it's the majority of items, but i have never seen one stack sold. Ofc it may work, but i never went to test and exploit it in like having 10+ stacks of it in there, mostly gems, books, mods, weapons, meds and such.

It always paid off though, so definitely worth it. Didn't get rich either, so fairly balanced from my point of view.