drop rate for honey from stumps?

[Zukkus]

I've chopped 20-30 stumps and received zero honey. anyone know what the drop rate is?

[Lumpous]

No exact numbers, to be honest.
But for myself, I also chop quite a few stumps and have some honey from them.
Around ~50 stumps and 3 honey so far.

[Xandor]

I don't know the drop rate but I feel like it might be 15-20%. Possibly slightly lower but not much I think.
I think I get one every 5 on average but sometimes it takes 10+ stumps but it can also be 2 honey after 3 stumps.

[Tahnval]

Apparently it was 5% in A21, although IME it seemed like much less than that. But maybe that's a skewed assessment caused by situations when I was chopping stumps for honey after getting infected. I once spent 6 entire game days in the pine forest specifically trying to cure a day 1 infection. And failing to find enough honey from stumps to do so despite focusing my gameplay on searching for and chopping up stumps. But I succeeded in holding down the infection for long enough to be able to buy treatment from a trader, so that was a success.

I've no idea what it is in A22/1.0.

[Noru]

in 1.0 experimental, I chopped like 10 stumps, got total of 3 honey. Then I got the book for bonus honey, but didn't need any more so far :)

[Raemnant]

I feel you man. I was fighting a bad infection for the first 20 hours of my 1.0 file. I could never find enough antibiotics or honey to completely cure it. I was always racing against the clock to get things done and hope to find or buy antibiotics. but it was never enough.. Went stump hunting so many times

But then now I have so much honey and antibiotics that I don't have to worry about it every again, hopefully

[Zzakroth]

I did a custom map (since abandoned cuz closest t1 it gave me the 2 times I checked was 3.6 km out) and in the walk to the trader(1.6 km away) I gained 7 honey from stumps and on the way to the first buried supplies I got 2 more. RNG is like that sometimes

[CatPerson]

The probability in the blocks.xml states ".05" - which seems to be the same as it was in A21. So if that meant 5% in A21, I would guess it has not changed.

rng being rng, you could be lucky and break a bunch of stumps and end up with 3-5 honey, or you could break a bunch of stumps and still get zero.

In 1.0, I so far (in a few starts) seem to end up with a 1-3 Honey after breaking maybe 12-20 stumps. But that's purely anecdotal/doesn't mean anything statistically. *shrug*

[Khissi]

I remember them saying that stumps located inside the perimeter of POIs had a higher percentage for honey drop. I wonder if that's still true? If so, then I'd search the stumps in town, as well!

[James]

Originally posted by CatPerson:

The probability in the blocks.xml states ".05" -

That's for the block named 'treemaster' which is of course for trees. The .05 (or 5%) probability is a trigger for the wasteland treasure book vol 1 in which you have a chance to harvest honey from trees (5% chance after reading the book).

<block name="treeMaster">
	<drop event="Harvest" name="foodHoney" prob=".05" count="1" tag="WasteTreasuresHoneyHarvest"/>
</block>
 

The tree stumps you find in the world are a different block and have a 20% probability rate.

<!-- World deco -->
<block name="treeStump">
	<drop event="Destroy" name="foodHoney" count="1" prob=".2"/>
</block>
 

Now, this does not mean if you harvest 5 tree stumps then you are guaranteed to get 1 honey. What it means is, when the world is generated, 1 in every 5 tree stumps placed in the world will have honey. This is why you could harvest 10 stumps and come away with zero but then get honey from 2 in a row.

Originally posted by Khissi:

I remember them saying that stumps located inside the perimeter of POIs had a higher percentage for honey drop. I wonder if that's still true? If so, then I'd search the stumps in town, as well!

I've always heard this rumor too and I'm not sure where it started but it has never been true. POI stumps have the same probability rate as ones found in the wild. The only reason they have a different block is because it uses a different collidor so that objects can be placed on top of tree stumps.

<!-- Different collider that allows objects to be placed on top of it -->
<block name="treeStumpPOI">
<drop event="Destroy" name="foodHoney" count="1" prob=".2"/>

[OPR357]

I noticed that the stumps with honey always have a zombie wandering around somewhere nearby.