So i gotta start over after every update?

[Korbe]

new here. just got alpha 20 now i can't load my save from 19.6
does this happen every big number change?
if so i'm put till this game....stops doing that.
can't keep getting reset. all those hours gone, shame

[A Pebble]

Originally posted by Korbe:

new here. just got alpha 20 now i can't load my save from 19.6
does this happen every big number change?
if so i'm put till this game....stops doing that.
can't keep getting reset. all those hours gone, shame

Yes, every new update you need to have a new save. But if you really want to play your games from past versions you can change your game version. right click 7 Days to Die on steam, go to properties, and change which "beta" version you want the game to be.

[Alenfal]

Yes, this happens for every iteration of their Alphas, but I think you can force the game to go back to 19.6 through the betas tab in the properties menu.

[Teresa]

Your game is not gone. It is just not compatible with a20.

To roll back to a19, right click 7dtd in your steam games list. Choose propertied, then betas. Find 19 and install it. Choose to never auto update.

You can play your a19 save until you are done with it.

Then repeat the same process if there are still a20 experimental versions, or choose opt out of all betas to play the stable a20 version.

You can play any final version of any alpha released on steam.

[OH! MY CAR]

Originally posted by Korbe:

new here. just got alpha 20 now i can't load my save from 19.6
does this happen every big number change?
if so i'm put till this game....stops doing that.
can't keep getting reset. all those hours gone, shame

Yeah, but the game usually has huge changes when it happens, and it also usually takes a year for the next update.

[CMDR Sweeper]

Yeah, this developer does some funky savegame stuff.
My guess is that they have fallen in love with heavily binarized savegames, those are a pain to convert and then they pull the lazy plug.
As explained earlier, it doesn't take much effort if you skip the binarization step to have it reload the same way in different versions.

[GlassDeviant]

Originally posted by Korbe:

new here. just got alpha 20 now i can't load my save from 19.6
does this happen every big number change?
if so i'm put till this game....stops doing that.
can't keep getting reset. all those hours gone, shame

Maybe stick around a little while and understand how the system works before you start bashing it.

[Trooper Bri]

And you're going to have to do this again when the game goes A21 Experimental. And then again when it goes A21 stable. Repeat and rinse until the game goes Beta, and then gold.
I've washed about 2500 hours down the sink, and that's nothing. There's plenty of folk who have washed 2X or 4X more than me down the sink.

Welcome to Early Access, Don't look back.

[Dini]

Actually I'm pretty sure I've seen a number of updates that didn't just kill our save games. I've had the save version turn *yellow* instead of the *green* that usually you'll see.... but as soon as I load into the one marked yellow, it'd basically update that save.This time all 3 saves I had just instant RED.... wow ok then.

Thanks for the advice on changing to beta to revert the client version. Maybe I'll do that to continue my game I had at day 60, no deaths.

GlassDeviant, I don't think he was bashing, didn't seem that way at all to me. Maybe you just have thin skin, heh. I might go as far as say maybe he was complaining, but nothing more.

PS: Maybe someone can explain the green/yellow/red thing to me if I'm not really understanding it right... Major update means saves go red perhaps? I get red means not compatible, but apart from that I'm curious what all that means.

[woodsguide]

it is frustrating to start over .. and over and over .. in any game.. hell, im an expert at the old table top DnD lvl 1-5 30+yrs of starting over with that game ;o) for one reason or another...



but in general, the trade-offs of the updates with new content and bug fixes, usually outweigh the desire to continue with my old buggy world.

and like mentioned above, you can roll your game back to any stable version and keep playing your world to your heart's content ;o)

[A Pebble]

7 days is generally one of those "journey, not the destination" type of games anyways. The game gets extremely stale extremely fast in the late game without mods. Personally, I enjoy starting over on a new update.

[DthBlayde]

Originally posted by Dini:

Actually I'm pretty sure I've seen a number of updates that didn't just kill our save games. I've had the save version turn *yellow* instead of the *green* that usually you'll see.... but as soon as I load into the one marked yellow, it'd basically update that save.This time all 3 saves I had just instant RED.... wow ok then.

Thanks for the advice on changing to beta to revert the client version. Maybe I'll do that to continue my game I had at day 60, no deaths.

GlassDeviant, I don't think he was bashing, didn't seem that way at all to me. Maybe you just have thin skin, heh. I might go as far as say maybe he was complaining, but nothing more.

PS: Maybe someone can explain the green/yellow/red thing to me if I'm not really understanding it right... Major update means saves go red perhaps? I get red means not compatible, but apart from that I'm curious what all that means.

Incremental updates "generally" don't require new games, but are played "At Risk" That's what the yellow is. For example, if the game is 19.6 but you're loading a 19.3 save. You MIGHT have problems. Green is full compatibility. a 19.6 map being loaded into a 19.6 game. Smooth sailing. Red is incompatible due to entire alpha revision changes. A save file from 19.6 would be red if you are running alpha 20. Game won't allow it to even load.

Major Alpha revisions -always- require fresh starts. Always. Too much of the core system is changed or updated, and even the act of removing a simple block ID # can cause havoc.

TLDR: Major revisions : 20 - 19 - 18 - 17 = Always restart.
Incremental Revisions: 19.6 - .5 - .4 - .3 = Generally not, unless specified
Green Save - Compatible
Red Save - Incompatible
Yellow Save - Play at own risk

[JimmyIowa]

Nope. You can stay on one version. You aren't forced to take updates. :)

Just go into betas tab and go back to 19.6.

[Dini]

Originally posted by DthBlayde:

Incremental updates "generally" don't require new games, but are played "At Risk" That's what the yellow is. For example, if the game is 19.6 but you're loading a 19.3 save. You MIGHT have problems. Green is full compatibility. a 19.6 map being loaded into a 19.6 game. Smooth sailing. Red is incompatible due to entire alpha revision changes. A save file from 19.6 would be red if you are running alpha 20. Game won't allow it to even load.

Major Alpha revisions -always- require fresh starts. Always. Too much of the core system is changed or updated, and even the act of removing a simple block ID # can cause havoc.

TLDR: Major revisions : 20 - 19 - 18 - 17 = Always restart.
Incremental Revisions: 19.6 - .5 - .4 - .3 = Generally not, unless specified
Green Save - Compatible
Red Save - Incompatible
Yellow Save - Play at own risk

Ah ok thanks for that detailed explanation!

[Buttflap]

.... until this game stops doing that? They've been doing it for almost a decade. I don't think that'll be changing. You'll have to keep it on the shelf for another decade if you want to keep waiting for a release. This game will never be done, some say that's good, some say it's bad. To each their own.

[FT]

Last post here explains how you can play both your old save AND the newest version (or pretty much any other version):
https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/1/3110269850346164483/#c3196989419237224245