Questions about quests, tiers, and rewards

[Captain Obvious]

How do quests actually work with regards to unlocking tiers?

My understanding:
So it seems like after you complete a certain number of quests (7?) you get an extra reward (2000 dukes and the choice of a special item, notably a bike) the opportunity to open a trade route.
Completing the trade-route will advance the original trader to a higher tier, meaning you can take higher tier quests.

Some unresolved questions:
Does completing a certain number of quests get you an extra 2k reward even when you're at max tier?
Does completing quests of a lower tier add up towards unlocking a higher tier/unlocking the 2k reward?
Is the 2k reward you get based on the tier of the quests you've completed?
Is there a way of cheesing it by doing 6 tier 1's and 1 tier 5 to get the tier 5 2k reward?

Any info peeps have would be useful, the wiki doesn't talk about it in specifics like this.

[DthBlayde]

1) Not sure, but I doubt it. The bonus exp is for unlocking the next tier. It stops at 5, so theres nothing to unlock afterwards.

2) Yes and No. The quests -have- to be of the previous tier. To unlock T3, you need to do T2's.

3) Not sure. Have only gone to T3, but never paid mind to the payouts.

4) Nope. Same reason as 2.

Also, while completing a T1 will get you the quest to find the next trader, it in itself is not the pre-req to accessing T2 quests from the same person. You -do- need to wait 1 game day however before T2's will be available.

side note: Quest progression is trader specific. If you're working for Joel and get up to T5, then decide to run the connection quest to Rekt, Rekt will be T1 and you have to build up the rep all over again.

[aY227]

You don't need to do open trader routes quest :)

1 - No
2 - No
3 - No, you get a different completion bonus rewards for each tier - starting from a bike on tier 1 and ending in solar cells in tier 5 completion. (money also increase, but it's generally worst choice)
4 - No, but you can reset quests pool by exiting an re entering game if you have less than 5 quests available. So - for example - after you will be rewarded Tier completion bonus you don't have to wait for next day to see next tier quests - just exit game.

Don't even look at wiki - only few articles there are up to date.

[Dragonmaster]

Couple of clear ups:
When you complete 7 quests for a trader <name> (can be multiple of them on a map that share), You will get a special end of tier reward as well from that trader. The Trader will offer an "opening trade routes" quest that will point you to another trader. The FOLLOWING DAY, the trader will begin to offer you the next tier of quests (you are NOT required to complete the opening trade routes quest).

All Traders of the same name share the same quest progression, ie if you did trader hugh's quests and unlocked tier 3, if you find a trader hugh in a DIFFERENT town, he will also offer tier 3 quests but if you find a trader jen and havent done any quests for her, she will still only offer tier 1 quests.

As for your other questions, no you cannot CHEESE it.

[DthBlayde]

引用自 Dragonmaster：

All Traders of the same name share the same quest progression, ie if you did trader hugh's quests and unlocked tier 3, if you find a trader hugh in a DIFFERENT town, he will also offer tier 3 quests but if you find a trader jen and havent done any quests for her, she will still only offer tier 1 quests.

Good catch. I forgot about this aspect.

[Aldodrem]

Is the quest reward perk bugged or something? I got the max level in it, and it says I'm supposed to be getting 2 rewards from completing a quest, but it only ever lets me pick 1?

[Captain Obvious]

引用自 Aldodrem：

Is the quest reward perk bugged or something? I got the max level in it, and it says I'm supposed to be getting 2 rewards from completing a quest, but it only ever lets me pick 1?

It only works if you have the intellect that unlocked that perk - eg. 7.
So concussion or removing nerdy glasses (if your intellect was 6 and you boosted it to 7) will make it not work.

[DthBlayde]

引用自 Aldodrem：

Is the quest reward perk bugged or something? I got the max level in it, and it says I'm supposed to be getting 2 rewards from completing a quest, but it only ever lets me pick 1?

I believe only increases the reward options you can choose from, not how many you can take (unless they updated the wording and functionality)

[Teresa]

max level daring adventurer does let you choose 2 quest rewards. this includes the rewards you get from completing a tier of quests

[Captain Obvious]

引用自 DthBlayde：

引用自 Aldodrem：

Is the quest reward perk bugged or something? I got the max level in it, and it says I'm supposed to be getting 2 rewards from completing a quest, but it only ever lets me pick 1?

I believe only increases the reward options you can choose from, not how many you can take (unless they updated the wording and functionality)

No, 100% you can get 2 rewards at max Daring.
The wording on the button's a little confusing (first option is "Select" second option is "complete) but yeah, you get the 2 items.

[DthBlayde]

引用自 Obvious：

引用自 DthBlayde：

I believe only increases the reward options you can choose from, not how many you can take (unless they updated the wording and functionality)

No, 100% you can get 2 rewards at max Daring.
The wording on the button's a little confusing (first option is "Select" second option is "complete) but yeah, you get the 2 items.

schweeeeet

[ElDudorino]

引用自 DthBlayde：

The quests -have- to be of the previous tier. To unlock T3, you need to do T2's.

I can confirm that this is false. What I've read and what matches my testing experience is this: Clearing each tier requires a number of "points" and that number is 7x[tier]. So to clear tier 1 you need to do 7 tier 1s. To clear tier 2 (7xtier=14 points) you could do 7 tier 2 quests or 14 tier 1 quests, or a combination such as 4 tier 1s and 5 tier 2s.

I took advantage of this recently to quickly clear tier 5's quests. I got the clear reward for tier 5 by doing 8 tier 4 quests (32 points) and 1 tier 5 quest (5 points, bringing the total up to 37, which was enough to score the 35 points needed to clear the tier). Quick and dirty way to get a set of Q5/6 armor and 500 steel blocks with my Daring Adventurer perk letting me choose two rewards.

[Captain Obvious]

引用自 ElDudorino：

引用自 DthBlayde：

The quests -have- to be of the previous tier. To unlock T3, you need to do T2's.

I can confirm that this is false. What I've read and what matches my testing experience is this: Clearing each tier requires a number of "points" and that number is 7x[tier]. So to clear tier 1 you need to do 7 tier 1s. To clear tier 2 (7xtier=14 points) you could do 7 tier 2 quests or 14 tier 1 quests, or a combination such as 4 tier 1s and 5 tier 2s.

I took advantage of this recently to quickly clear tier 5's quests. I got the clear reward for tier 5 by doing 8 tier 4 quests (32 points) and 1 tier 5 quest (5 points, bringing the total up to 37, which was enough to score the 35 points needed to clear the tier). Quick and dirty way to get a set of Q5/6 armor and 500 steel blocks with my Daring Adventurer perk letting me choose two rewards.

Yeah, I saw some reddit saying the same. The added benefit being that if you end up in an area with "high level POI's" you can grind out the nearer lower-pois and still rank up.

[FT]

Do you get any special reward for clearing 7 X tier5 (or another point equivalent) or is that special reward only for earning a new trader location?
Has anyone tested if you continue to earn an extra reward for clearing 7 X tier6-equivalent of points...aka 42points, and 7 X tier 7-equivalent of points after that?

[DthBlayde]

引用自 ElDudorino：

引用自 DthBlayde：

The quests -have- to be of the previous tier. To unlock T3, you need to do T2's.

I can confirm that this is false. What I've read and what matches my testing experience is this: Clearing each tier requires a number of "points" and that number is 7x[tier]. So to clear tier 1 you need to do 7 tier 1s. To clear tier 2 (7xtier=14 points) you could do 7 tier 2 quests or 14 tier 1 quests, or a combination such as 4 tier 1s and 5 tier 2s.

I took advantage of this recently to quickly clear tier 5's quests. I got the clear reward for tier 5 by doing 8 tier 4 quests (32 points) and 1 tier 5 quest (5 points, bringing the total up to 37, which was enough to score the 35 points needed to clear the tier). Quick and dirty way to get a set of Q5/6 armor and 500 steel blocks with my Daring Adventurer perk letting me choose two rewards.

The format must have changed up then for A20, since in previous iterations it had to be X amt of the previous tier. We also didn't have the option to select different tiers. Once T2 was unlocked, thats all you had. Then T3, T4 etc. No way to back pedal. I stand corrected then :)

[ElDudorino]

引用自 FT：

Do you get any special reward for clearing 7 X tier5 (or another point equivalent) or is that special reward only for earning a new trader location?
Has anyone tested if you continue to earn an extra reward for clearing 7 X tier6-equivalent of points...aka 42points, and 7 X tier 7-equivalent of points after that?

There's no reward for clearing 7xt5 vs 9xt4; they're both the same completion result. That is, other than the rewards for each individual quest, which will be better at t5 than at t4. But even t4 gives q6 t3 weapons so they're still good.

About further completion bonuses after tier 5 complete, I have read that there aren't any but I haven't bothered confirming. I can't imagine they would give you something better than t5's rewards though since they are already way overpowered. 500 steel blocks plus a full set of Q5-6 T3 armor is crazy.