No More Blood Draw Kits? (Alpha 18.1 B5)

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

All the blood draw kits I had prior to the latest version became scappable junk and can't be used anymore. Do I have to loot medicine cabinets in those drug stores for blood bags now?

[MafiaWays]

BRING BACK THE BLOOD DRAW KITS LOL, yeah man im pissed about this. i think its another ploy for you to become closer to death, as every so often you can just deal with a buff and make hella med kits my brother was so obsessed with this he always had my sick lol. they always take away the good stuff, as far as what we do now i guess its back to the drawing board.

[Paul]

give me back my blood draw kit I need it in game where I got 25% loot !!!!!

[blazha]

Originally posted by Paul:

give me back my blood draw kit I need it in game where I got 25% loot !!!!!

You can't have 25% loot, minimum is 33 now. And you can perfectly survive with bandages even on 0% loot. Time to start planting aloe.

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

Originally posted by blazha:

Originally posted by Paul:

give me back my blood draw kit I need it in game where I got 25% loot !!!!!

You can't have 25% loot, minimum is 33 now. And you can perfectly survive with bandages even on 0% loot. Time to start planting aloe.

If you even can find the schematic to craft aloe seeds, find them, or you're lucky to spawn in or near the desert biome.

Oh and, if you even have the time to wait for the aloe plants to grow while you're low on health.

[Paul]

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Originally posted by blazha:

Originally posted by Paul:

give me back my blood draw kit I need it in game where I got 25% loot !!!!!

You can't have 25% loot, minimum is 33 now. And you can perfectly survive with bandages even on 0% loot. Time to start planting aloe.

no it is 25%

[blazha]

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

Originally posted by blazha:

You can't have 25% loot, minimum is 33 now. And you can perfectly survive with bandages even on 0% loot. Time to start planting aloe.

If you even can find the schematic to craft aloe seeds, find them, or you're lucky to spawn in or near the desert biome.

Oh and, if you even have the time to wait for the aloe plants to grow while you're low on health.

Why would you be on low health? Even regular bandages replenish max health and food does the rest. You need schematic for first aid kit too, perking into it requires some serious leveling. I have never used blood draw kit, and never crafted first aid kit. I drop blood bags to free inventory. I have close to 1000 hours and recently got achievement for 10 deaths. I rarely craft first aid bandages too, 1 stack can last for days. It's possible to survive without it, and people were abusing it alot, so I'm glad that it's gone. One useless item removed from game.

[blazha]

Originally posted by Paul:

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Originally posted by blazha:

You can't have 25% loot, minimum is 33 now. And you can perfectly survive with bandages even on 0% loot. Time to start planting aloe.

no it is 25%

In new version where blood draw kit is removed is 33, 67... Instead of 25, 50...

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

Originally posted by blazha:

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

If you even can find the schematic to craft aloe seeds, find them, or you're lucky to spawn in or near the desert biome.

Oh and, if you even have the time to wait for the aloe plants to grow while you're low on health.

Why would you be on low health? Even regular bandages replenish max health and food does the rest. You need schematic for first aid kit too, perking into it requires some serious leveling. I have never used blood draw kit, and never crafted first aid kit. I drop blood bags to free inventory. I have close to 1000 hours and recently got achievement for 10 deaths. I rarely craft first aid bandages too, 1 stack can last for days. It's possible to survive without it, and people were abusing it alot, so I'm glad that it's gone. One useless item removed from game.

Sounds like you never had to fight the weekly horde nor went into big POIs that have many enemies in them. Or perhaps, you're playing on super easy mode.

The blood draw kit wasn't useless, and it wasn't overpowered. You would suffer from anemia and that made you weaker.

I bet if the developers removed the ability to craft first aid bandages, you'll rejoice because "it's useless and people abused it".

[blazha]

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

Originally posted by blazha:

Why would you be on low health? Even regular bandages replenish max health and food does the rest. You need schematic for first aid kit too, perking into it requires some serious leveling. I have never used blood draw kit, and never crafted first aid kit. I drop blood bags to free inventory. I have close to 1000 hours and recently got achievement for 10 deaths. I rarely craft first aid bandages too, 1 stack can last for days. It's possible to survive without it, and people were abusing it alot, so I'm glad that it's gone. One useless item removed from game.

Sounds like you never had to fight the weekly horde nor went into big POIs that have many enemies in them. Or perhaps, you're playing on super easy mode.

The blood draw kit wasn't useless, and it wasn't overpowered. You would suffer from anemia and that made you weaker.

I bet if the developers removed the ability to craft first aid bandages, you'll rejoice because "it's useless and people abused it".

Lol, I cleared tier 5 quest higashi pharmaceutical skyscraper with sledgehammer and bow on gamestage 120 without using a single bullet. My horde base is a melee setup, 64 enemies default difficulty. Just finished day 21 without a scratch. Sounds like you cant handle more than 1 zombie without getting gun out and still you get wrecked.

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

Originally posted by blazha:

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

Sounds like you never had to fight the weekly horde nor went into big POIs that have many enemies in them. Or perhaps, you're playing on super easy mode.

The blood draw kit wasn't useless, and it wasn't overpowered. You would suffer from anemia and that made you weaker.

I bet if the developers removed the ability to craft first aid bandages, you'll rejoice because "it's useless and people abused it".

Lol, I cleared tier 5 quest higashi pharmaceutical skyscraper with sledgehammer and bow on gamestage 120 without using a single bullet. My horde base is a melee setup, 64 enemies default difficulty. Just finished day 21 without a scratch. Sounds like you cant handle more than 1 zombie without getting gun out and still you get wrecked.

Oh I'm sorry, would you like to speak to my baseball bat while you're at that's covered in zombie brains?

With what you told me, I'm actually convinced you're not good at the game with what you tried to brag about.

[blazha]

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

Originally posted by blazha:

Lol, I cleared tier 5 quest higashi pharmaceutical skyscraper with sledgehammer and bow on gamestage 120 without using a single bullet. My horde base is a melee setup, 64 enemies default difficulty. Just finished day 21 without a scratch. Sounds like you cant handle more than 1 zombie without getting gun out and still you get wrecked.

Oh I'm sorry, would you like to speak to my baseball bat while you're at that's covered in zombie brains?

With what you told me, I'm actually convinced you're not good at the game with what you tried to brag about.

Whatever you say dude. I told you the truth, I have no reason to brag about a game. Anyway, first aid kit is not something you should use every day, it should be an emergency tool. If you have emergency few times every day than you are not doing things right. I would even add a cooldown on it like painkillers have to prevent spamming.

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

Originally posted by blazha:

Originally posted by =H$=TheForgery:

Oh I'm sorry, would you like to speak to my baseball bat while you're at that's covered in zombie brains?

With what you told me, I'm actually convinced you're not good at the game with what you tried to brag about.

Whatever you say dude. I told you the truth, I have no reason to brag about a game. Anyway, first aid kit is not something you should use every day, it should be an emergency tool. If you have emergency few times every day than you are not doing things right. I would even add a cooldown on it like painkillers have to prevent spamming.

Uh-huh, this is coming from someone like you when I gave a possible scenario that I didn't claim I was in. I give examples like that because of probability and there's always a time when things can go wrong.

[Paul]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1904563370 it is 25%

[blazha]

Originally posted by OzHawkeye:

From the Devs:

People were suicide farming 100s of blood bags, so there was a buff that was added on death, that TFP didn't approve of, death should clear all buffs for consistency. Without that inconsistency they could farm all the blood bags they want for a one time maximum loss of 50% xp.

Furthermore, the large first aid kit violated one of 18's key principal designs which is all good crafts require a loot only trinket. As it was they were 100% farmable which also goes against everything we've done making odd loot only trinkets to craft anything decent.

More blood kits are in loot now, so it should be fine, just no endless best medical item in the game.

There you go, it was abused and easy to get.

[blazha]

Originally posted by Paul:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1904563370 it is 25%

It was changed in A18.1 b2, guess they changed it back or you haven't cleared your saves and data.