New torch holder bug

[Zukkus]

I had 2 torch holders fall to the ground and disapear/break in this exact scenario:
reinforced concrete block with plane wooden block on top of it. A trench dug in front of the wall such that 1/2 the concrete block was "floating" and the other half was on fertile soil.

I thought torch holders were bugged, so i tried placing in this scenario (further down the wall):
2 reinforced concrete blocks on top of each other with no trench

2nd scenario worked.

Something is odd and bugged with torch holders.

[ZombieThursday]

It's still a problem to this day. I had 2 torches fall of the wall and break just now. They were on a perfectly solid wall.

Makes no sense. Still not fixed.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

It's still a problem to this day. I had 2 torches fall of the wall and break just now. They were on a perfectly solid wall.

Makes no sense. Still not fixed.

I mean, first, huuuuuuuuge necro.. Could've made your own post.

But, Second, As solid as the wall is, What about down below? Have you mined underneath the wall at all? Underground base, or a mining cave, for example? Because if you did, you've compromised the vertical structural integrity of the wall.

Vertical integrity is infinite when there is an unbroken line of blocks from bedrock to to the first open space it encounters; Aftert an open space, it is -not- infinite. The larger the open space enountered, the weaker integrity above gets until it just can't be supported and you get odd happenstances of collapse like this.

[ZombieThursday]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

It's still a problem to this day. I had 2 torches fall of the wall and break just now. They were on a perfectly solid wall.

Makes no sense. Still not fixed.

I mean, first, huuuuuuuuge necro.. Could've made your own post.

But, Second, As solid as the wall is, What about down below? Have you mined underneath the wall at all? Underground base, or a mining cave, for example? Because if you did, you've compromised the vertical structural integrity of the wall.

Vertical integrity is infinite when there is an unbroken line of blocks from bedrock to to the first open space it encounters; Aftert an open space, it is -not- infinite. The larger the open space enountered, the weaker integrity above gets until it just can't be supported and you get odd happenstances of collapse like this.

I saw that there was other posts on it and assumed it hadn't been fixed yet as I was having the issue. :P

And like I said, they were placed on a perfectly solid wall.
I did check to make sure the wall wasn't otherwise compromised and there was no damage on any of the surrounding walls when I placed the torch. It still crumbled. This was placed on dirt though, not a flagstone or wooden block. (I'm in the desert biome.)

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

I mean, first, huuuuuuuuge necro.. Could've made your own post.

But, Second, As solid as the wall is, What about down below? Have you mined underneath the wall at all? Underground base, or a mining cave, for example? Because if you did, you've compromised the vertical structural integrity of the wall.

Vertical integrity is infinite when there is an unbroken line of blocks from bedrock to to the first open space it encounters; Aftert an open space, it is -not- infinite. The larger the open space enountered, the weaker integrity above gets until it just can't be supported and you get odd happenstances of collapse like this.

I saw that there was other posts on it and assumed it hadn't been fixed yet as I was having the issue. :P

And like I said, they were placed on a perfectly solid wall.
I did check to make sure the wall wasn't otherwise compromised and there was no damage on any of the surrounding walls when I placed the torch. It still crumbled. This was placed on dirt though, not a flagstone or wooden block. (I'm in the desert biome.)

Ah! Okay, I meant more down below the wall, rather than of the wall itself. But, if you're in the desert biome, I strongly recommend digging below your walls and stabilizing it, as sand does NOT properly support buildings in most cases, it causes a lot of problems because it basically can't even support itself, let alone anything on top of it.

You'll need to build a proper foundation for the wall, and likely for your main building too, and that -should- alleviate the issue you're having.. :) Lemme know if it doesn't, though.

[ZombieThursday]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

I saw that there was other posts on it and assumed it hadn't been fixed yet as I was having the issue. :P

And like I said, they were placed on a perfectly solid wall.
I did check to make sure the wall wasn't otherwise compromised and there was no damage on any of the surrounding walls when I placed the torch. It still crumbled. This was placed on dirt though, not a flagstone or wooden block. (I'm in the desert biome.)

Ah! Okay, I meant more down below the wall, rather than of the wall itself. But, if you're in the desert biome, I strongly recommend digging below your walls and stabilizing it, as sand does NOT properly support buildings in most cases, it causes a lot of problems because it basically can't even support itself, let alone anything on top of it.

You'll need to build a proper foundation for the wall, and likely for your main building too, and that -should- alleviate the issue you're having.. :) Lemme know if it doesn't, though.

It does work to put torches on the stone walls, I never tried without making the frame around the walls/floor stone too so I don't know if that's an issue but I assume it was due to the walls being sand previously.
Thanks for your help either way :)

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Ah! Okay, I meant more down below the wall, rather than of the wall itself. But, if you're in the desert biome, I strongly recommend digging below your walls and stabilizing it, as sand does NOT properly support buildings in most cases, it causes a lot of problems because it basically can't even support itself, let alone anything on top of it.

You'll need to build a proper foundation for the wall, and likely for your main building too, and that -should- alleviate the issue you're having.. :) Lemme know if it doesn't, though.

It does work to put torches on the stone walls, I never tried without making the frame around the walls/floor stone too so I don't know if that's an issue but I assume it was due to the walls being sand previously.
Thanks for your help either way :)

Yeah. Sand has a mass of 10, and a horizontal support of 4. It literally cannot even support 1 block of itself. And a torch I think has a mass of 5? So sand can't support a torch either. It can vertically support (since vertical support from bedrock is infinite) , but, There's basically nothing in the game that can stick to the side of a block of sand.

[ZombieThursday]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Gamarleton:

It does work to put torches on the stone walls, I never tried without making the frame around the walls/floor stone too so I don't know if that's an issue but I assume it was due to the walls being sand previously.
Thanks for your help either way :)

Yeah. Sand has a mass of 10, and a horizontal support of 4. It literally cannot even support 1 block of itself. And a torch I think has a mass of 5? So sand can't support a torch either. It can vertically support (since vertical support from bedrock is infinite) , but, There's basically nothing in the game that can stick to the side of a block of sand.

It makes sense. Guess I forgot it wasn't minecraft. ;D hahaha