A20 Alot of lag with hordes

[HostileLogOut]

so i noticed that everytime a friend and mine, engage in big groups of zombies or do skyscraper buildings, we get maybe 30-60 zombies and is super laggy. frame stutters to 20-30 fps. and normally we sit around 70-90 fps

[HostileLogOut]

⚜ JOST AMMAN ⚜ の投稿を引用：

Bagel の投稿を引用：

Are you trying to have a flippant "who cares about performance" attitude, or is what you're saying just accidentally coming across that way? If it's purposeful, then why did you even come into this thread?

No, I'm just curious about OP complaining about FPS drops in some situations, and then when I reply to him he changes tune and says it's happening basically everywhere. Why don't they just give all the information at once instead of misleading people trying to help?

because right after we have a region where we engage a bunch of zombies, it starts laggin, even if there is only a small amount of zombies, like 6-10, its everytime the spawning starts we noticed it happens

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

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⚜ JOST AMMAN ⚜ の投稿を引用：

No, I'm just curious about OP complaining about FPS drops in some situations, and then when I reply to him he changes tune and says it's happening basically everywhere. Why don't they just give all the information at once instead of misleading people trying to help?

because right after we have a region where we engage a bunch of zombies, it starts laggin, even if there is only a small amount of zombies, like 6-10, its everytime the spawning starts we noticed it happens

Hmm... seems like a bug or some optimization problem from the game.

You should probably file a bug report on the official forums and try to tell how to reproduce the problem step by step.

[Trouser_Dune_Worm]

Welcome to act 20 where optimization takes a back seat.

[pApA^LeGBa]

Trouser_Dune_Worm の投稿を引用：

Welcome to act 20 where optimization takes a back seat.

Dude. Seriously? It´s still experimental.

[SylenThunder]

Please take a look at the Pinned Troubleshooting thread for workarounds and fixes. If you still have an issue, then please read the Pinned thread on How to Report an Issue, and follow the instructions.

If you are on a20 experimental, be sure to wipe all data from previous versions and try a new map with a new seed you have not used previously.

[HostileLogOut]

SylenThunder の投稿を引用：

Please take a look at the Pinned Troubleshooting thread for workarounds and fixes. If you still have an issue, then please read the Pinned thread on How to Report an Issue, and follow the instructions.

If you are on a20 experimental, be sure to wipe all data from previous versions and try a new map with a new seed you have not used previously.

we did a complete fresh A20 server. pregen a 10k map i think it was?

[.♥~*°("_")°*~♥.]

HostileLogOut の投稿を引用：

oh just fyi i have a i5 10600k, rtx 2070 and running on 1440p and 24gb and on ssd.

Strange, my PC is lower than your, i5 3ghz 16gb RAM GTX 1060 6gb & no SSD, I can play in a big city with nearly 100 spawn of zombies/animal & I have a verage of +/-75 fps (I use mod to spawn more zombie/animal).
But I don't play with auto setting to high/ultra & only play in 1080p.
(aa/effect/color/light/shadow are set to off, all weird/crappy option dynamic is to off too, texture quality full)

So try by down setting & go test in a new party in a city & then active dev mode & then spawn zombies until you will got lag to see how much you will get fps...
(do spawn zombie/animal until you have nearly +/-75 eachother it's enought, with command LE to see how many entity is active)

HostileLogOut の投稿を引用：

we did a complete fresh A20 server. pregen a 10k map i think it was?

A moderator said in another post about 10k map is instable something like that...

[SiEgE]

HostileLogOut の投稿を引用：

so i noticed that everytime a friend and mine, engage in big groups of zombies or do skyscraper buildings, we get maybe 30-60 zombies and is super laggy. frame stutters to 20-30 fps. and normally we sit around 70-90 fps

This game is not optimized enough for 64 zombies the game has set.
Reduce the max simultaneous amount of simultaneously available zombies down to 15-20. Disable Dynamic Mesh when in big city. Reduce object and terrain quality, reduce shadow and texture filtering quality.
That should help you keeping your fps at playable rate.

[HostileLogOut]

i am gonna try and put the server on my laptop. that might actually solve some issues,

[Danny]

This is still a thing.
Big hordes and big buildings = 10-30 FPS

Specs:
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
16 GB RAM

Lowering settings does not help.
My brother has same issue on his $6k computer

[SylenThunder]

Danny の投稿を引用：

This is still a thing.
Big hordes and big buildings = 10-30 FPS

Specs:
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
16 GB RAM

Lowering settings does not help.
My brother has same issue on his $6k computer

Your specific issue is your CPU's lack of proper multithreading support. It's been stated many times over the years that you will get a massive boost in performance by locking the core affinity to 4 physical CPU cores.

This is the case for any AMD CPU prior to 3rd gen Ryzens, and for a few models afterwards. There are some newer Intel chipsets that would benefit from this as well.

Your 2080 can't do jack when you have a CPU bottleneck like the Hoover dam.

[Danny]

SylenThunder の投稿を引用：

Danny の投稿を引用：

This is still a thing.
Big hordes and big buildings = 10-30 FPS

Specs:
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
16 GB RAM

Lowering settings does not help.
My brother has same issue on his $6k computer

Your specific issue is your CPU's lack of proper multithreading support. It's been stated many times over the years that you will get a massive boost in performance by locking the core affinity to 4 physical CPU cores.

This is the case for any AMD CPU prior to 3rd gen Ryzens, and for a few models afterwards. There are some newer Intel chipsets that would benefit from this as well.

Your 2080 can't do jack when you have a CPU bottleneck like the Hoover dam.

Don't try to make it look like my computer is the issue. I can run literally Cyberpunk and Red dead redemption 2 on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played most survival games out there including a game as poorly optimized as Ark Survival Evolved on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played 7 days to die since it was released and looked like Minecraft and never had FPS issues until Alpha 20.

I guess my brothers $6k PC that has the best CPU and GPU money can buy in 2022 isn't strong enough to run 7 Days to Die either.

The game has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimization and needs to be fixed. But given how old this thread is, that seems likely not to happen. Will try and reinstall again in a couple of years when alpha 21 releases, thanks.

[Bagel]

Danny の投稿を引用：

SylenThunder の投稿を引用：

Your specific issue is your CPU's lack of proper multithreading support. It's been stated many times over the years that you will get a massive boost in performance by locking the core affinity to 4 physical CPU cores.

This is the case for any AMD CPU prior to 3rd gen Ryzens, and for a few models afterwards. There are some newer Intel chipsets that would benefit from this as well.

Your 2080 can't do jack when you have a CPU bottleneck like the Hoover dam.

Don't try to make it look like my computer is the issue. I can run literally Cyberpunk and Red dead redemption 2 on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played most survival games out there including a game as poorly optimized as Ark Survival Evolved on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played 7 days to die since it was released and looked like Minecraft and never had FPS issues until Alpha 20.

I guess my brothers $6k PC that has the best CPU and GPU money can buy in 2022 isn't strong enough to run 7 Days to Die either.

The game has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimization and needs to be fixed. But given how old this thread is, that seems likely not to happen. Will try and reinstall again in a couple of years when alpha 21 releases, thanks.

Sure, ok, but did you try the core affinity fix that was suggested? I'm interested to hear if it helped.

Also, Gaming on PC has never been a hands-off "it just works" experience. No amount of money will buy a PC that you never have to maintain nor tweak on occasion. If you want an "it just works" experience, maybe consoles are for you.

[SylenThunder]

Danny の投稿を引用：

SylenThunder の投稿を引用：

Your specific issue is your CPU's lack of proper multithreading support. It's been stated many times over the years that you will get a massive boost in performance by locking the core affinity to 4 physical CPU cores.

This is the case for any AMD CPU prior to 3rd gen Ryzens, and for a few models afterwards. There are some newer Intel chipsets that would benefit from this as well.

Your 2080 can't do jack when you have a CPU bottleneck like the Hoover dam.

Don't try to make it look like my computer is the issue. I can run literally Cyberpunk and Red dead redemption 2 on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played most survival games out there including a game as poorly optimized as Ark Survival Evolved on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played 7 days to die since it was released and looked like Minecraft and never had FPS issues until Alpha 20.

I guess my brothers $6k PC that has the best CPU and GPU money can buy in 2022 isn't strong enough to run 7 Days to Die either.

The game has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimization and needs to be fixed. But given how old this thread is, that seems likely not to happen. Will try and reinstall again in a couple of years when alpha 21 releases, thanks.

Again, it's well documented. Just search the forum for the 2700, as it's probably the most common chip from that generation and comes up a lot. Most people get an improvement of 30-40FPS from setting affinity on that CPU, and it's a step above the one you have.

Also, if an overpriced 6k PC can't do a stable 60FPS, but a PC that was obsolete ten years ago can, where exactly do you think the issue really is? It's not the game client. That's for sure.
I'm not saying the game is fully optimized yet. You're just making a hell of a lot of uneducated assumptions.

[Danny]

Bagel の投稿を引用：

Danny の投稿を引用：

Don't try to make it look like my computer is the issue. I can run literally Cyberpunk and Red dead redemption 2 on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played most survival games out there including a game as poorly optimized as Ark Survival Evolved on max settings without ever dropping below 60 FPS.
I have played 7 days to die since it was released and looked like Minecraft and never had FPS issues until Alpha 20.

I guess my brothers $6k PC that has the best CPU and GPU money can buy in 2022 isn't strong enough to run 7 Days to Die either.

The game has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimization and needs to be fixed. But given how old this thread is, that seems likely not to happen. Will try and reinstall again in a couple of years when alpha 21 releases, thanks.

Sure, ok, but did you try the core affinity fix that was suggested? I'm interested to hear if it helped.

Also, Gaming on PC has never been a hands-off "it just works" experience. No amount of money will buy a PC that you never have to maintain nor tweak on occasion. If you want an "it just works" experience, maybe consoles are for you.

Hey, no I did not try it. I uninstalled the game until Alpha 21. When I buy a game I expect something as basic as optimization to work properly especially when the game graphically looks like it came out in 2006. The fact alone that this wasn't hotfixed as soon as it was reported is very unserious and disrespectful of the developers, but yea that's the gaming industry now days. Like I said I'll just wait and see what changes in Alpha 21.
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