Surface Lighting Effects Moving Underground. (Can't see even with a helmet light)

[Black Triad]

Seems that the surface lighting effects and shadows are now underground (even with shadows off) and using a helmet light is of no help. There are pitch black spots and a helmet light WILL NOT light them up. This makes mining underground damn near impossible and the entire game just not fun.

Is this a new "bug" or "feature" in 20.6? I can't find anyone else saying anything about it. Surely someone else has noticed this other than me?

[MystaMagoo]

I also found that underground was still being illuminated as if it was at ground level.
Always been a thing as far as I can remember.

Always had my lights/torches etc light up everything though,never had 'black spots'

[ElDudorino]

Broken lighting isn't new to a20.6. It's been broken.

[Black Triad]

I didn't see this behavior in 20.3 or in 20.3 Darkness Falls and it's never been a thing before.

[Mardoin69]

See other post you commented in. Also, coal will appear that way...like pitch black as though your light isn't working in that spot.....usually means it's coal. But, be sure you have the 'sun / god' rays enabled so your light source will 'beam' into hollow areas.

[Black Triad]

Originally posted by Mardoin69:

See other post you commented in. Also, coal will appear that way...like pitch black as though your light isn't working in that spot.....usually means it's coal. But, be sure you have the 'sun / god' rays enabled so your light source will 'beam' into hollow areas.

Enabling Sun Rays does absolutely nothing . Changing all other settings does nothing either. The presence or absence of coal does not matter . All light sources are affected, not just the helmet light so it must be a lighting effect or underground texture that was added is bugged (perhaps on purpose) and is unaffected by the light sources EXCEPT the position of the sun above. Turning off shadows does nothing as the position of the sun makes shadows underground, even at night.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Black Triad:

Originally posted by Mardoin69:

See other post you commented in. Also, coal will appear that way...like pitch black as though your light isn't working in that spot.....usually means it's coal. But, be sure you have the 'sun / god' rays enabled so your light source will 'beam' into hollow areas.

Enabling Sun Rays does absolutely nothing . Changing all other settings does nothing either. The presence or absence of coal does not matter . All light sources are affected, not just the helmet light so it must be a lighting effect or underground texture that was added is bugged (perhaps on purpose) and is unaffected by the light sources EXCEPT the position of the sun above. Turning off shadows does nothing as the position of the sun makes shadows underground, even at night.

So like, Could you please post screenshot evidence of what you're experiencing? Because what you're describing is not what I myself am seeing- Wondering if I'm even looking for the right thing since descriptions of a visual problem are not exactly a good substitute for a picture of it.

[Black Triad]

Here are some SS. This is on the Pregen 10k Map btw.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816124

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816033

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815936

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815829

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Black Triad:

Here are some SS. This is on the Pregen 10k Map btw.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816124

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816033

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815936

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815829

I uh.. I'll have to launch back up just to verify and grab screenies for comparison, but at a glance, I gotta be honest... That looks like Coal ore, Not a lighting bug.

[Black Triad]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Black Triad:

Here are some SS. This is on the Pregen 10k Map btw.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816124

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907816033

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815936

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907815829

I uh.. I'll have to launch back up just to verify and grab screenies for comparison, but at a glance, I gotta be honest... That looks like Coal ore.

It does it with iron as well. A helmet light has always lit up an area underground completely so you can see what the hell is in front of ya. Are you saying this is the "new" lighting affects underground as intended? This is too dark to mine and not what happens when you put a flashlight on a wall underground lol. It's deplorable.

[Shurenai]

Sorry, it's 11am and I've been up since...7am yesterday. Bit tired.

Comparing directly with my own game and your screenshots, I see now what you're referring to. There's definitely something ♥♥♥♥♥ goin on.

Here's what I see for comparison:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907839748
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907839919
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907840028
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907840088

I would recommend doing a full refresh of the client and see if the issue persists.
Here are the instructions:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/1/3110269850346164483/#c3110269850345972067

You can skip step 23 to step 31 if you feel uncomfortable with messing with the registry, as those steps may not be needed.

Make sure you back up your saves/generated worlds before following those steps.

You might also try the steps in the post above the one linked- the one for cleaning save data. Again; Make a backup first.

[Black Triad]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Sorry, it's 11am and I've been up since...7am yesterday. Bit tired. :winter2019tiredyul:

Comparing directly with my own game and your screenshots, I see now what you're referring to. There's definitely something ♥♥♥♥♥ goin on.

Here's what I see for comparison:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907839748
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907839919
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907840028
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907840088

I would recommend doing a full refresh of the client and see if the issue persists.
Here are the instructions:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/1/3110269850346164483/#c3110269850345972067

You can skip step 23 to step 31 if you feel uncomfortable with messing with the registry, as those steps may not be needed.

Make sure you back up your saves/generated worlds before following those steps.

You might also try the steps in the post above the one linked- the one for cleaning save data. Again; Make a backup first.

Your screenshots look as bad as mine lol. This is definately not due to my installation or settings. Some textures are simply blocking or not reflecting light and staying in the dark. This should be reported as a bug for sure.

[Black Triad]

I am backtracking to earlier alphas until this behavior is gone to determine when this change was made.

[Black Triad]

Yep. I only had to go back to Alpha 20.5 to get rid of this behavior. All works well there.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Black Triad:

Your screenshots look as bad as mine lol. This is definately not due to my installation or settings. Some textures are simply blocking or not reflecting light and staying in the dark. This should be reported as a bug for sure.

Compare it side by side; There's a very definite difference- At least to me.
https://prnt.sc/YfCodvQE9X64
Your coal/stone is so dark, with zero reflection to speak of, even with your helmet light you can't see a thing. There's also a weird line of shadow/light along the joint where wall/ground meet, where it's lit on top but shadowed on bottom, very abnormally- Mine doesn't have that. And in your screenshots it's present with and without the helmet light.

Further, You're standing within a block or two of the wall, I'm standing closer to 10 blocks away in my screenies; Which SHOULD make yours much brighter in comparsion to mine because it shines brighter on objects closer to you. Yet, In spite of that, The overall light level of mine is much higher- Or at least comparable.