7 Days to Die

7 Days to Die

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Zed Nov 17, 2020 @ 10:03pm
GPU running at no less than 92% at all times
I just bought a new PC with an RTX 2070 Super graphics card and i7-10700k CPU, 32GB of Ram. Everything is brand new with a fresh install of WIndows 10.

I have tested the following games on Ultra with this new setup with no issues:
Star Wars Squardrons
Red Dead Redemption 2
Kingdom Come: Deliverance
PUBG

For whatever reason, 7 Days To Die pushes 92 to 100% GPU, with almost all the virtual RAM (7gb out of 8) being used and my GPU temp at 85%. I have tried using various graphics settings. Here's the thing that's baffling me. If I run default lowest settings, it runs the same level of GPU if I run Ultra. It seems to make absolutely no difference. It's like the game defaults to use this level of GPU.

Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm not using any mods. None of the other games I have tested are having this issue. It's just 7 Days To Die.
Originally posted by Daemonjax:
Cool. My advice is good because I'm good at my job. Check out my edited reply for more info. I edit my responses a lot, instead of double/triple/quadruple posting :D

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Daemonjax Nov 18, 2020 @ 6:44am 
Sounds like you're running uncapped fps. Try capping fps to something like 60 (vsync or just capping fps through drivers), and gpu usage should go down with decreasing graphics options/resolution.

If you're fps is uncapped, then reducing graphics options/resolution will just increase the fps with the gpu staying at 100% utilization (until you become cpu limited).

I have an i5 3570k cpu (♥♥♥♥'s super old, but it just keeps rocking on in every game at just 4ghz) and this game uses around 25% cpu total (spread out across all 4 cores) on windows 7 in normal non-bloodmoon situations @60 fps (vsync AND capped at 60 in the drivers to reduce input latency, 4 max pre-render frames, 1920x1200 resolution) -- single player, server's running on the same pc.

I use borderless windowed mode -- oddly, performance is better in borderless windowed than full-screen exclusive for me. The only other game where this is also true for me is Elite Dangerous, but that engine has been plagued with bugs since beta.

My gpu is a 1070ti (water cooled), and I'm GPU limited in this game -- in pretty much every game I'm GPU limited, so this is not unexpected. I could max out everything and get 60fps almost all the time, but then I'd get fps drops into the 40s during dawn and dusk for some reason (again, gpu limited -- cpu usage during those times is normal). Settings are near max, though -- can't really tell the difference.

I also have 32gb of ram -- which is completely overkill for every game. I found that 16gb gives same performance in every game (2x SSD in raid0 may have something to do with it, though). I "upgraded" from 16gb to 32gb a couple years back because I figured (correctly) it was my last chance to get more DDR3 ram.

Here's my video quality settings:

https://pasteboard.co/JAWKsHL.jpg
https://pasteboard.co/JAWL1aI.jpg

I would have motion blur on, but turning it off gives me the last 2 fps I needed to hit 60 all the time.


Hope that helps!
Last edited by Daemonjax; Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:27am
Zed Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:25am 
Borderless windowed mode is not even an option for me in the menu. I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

It's the game. I think it's not properly compatible with my GPU. I'm running 81% in the main menu, for crying out loud. However... I just followed your advice and turned on V-SYNC. I'm now floating around 70% GPU and 82 degree temps, which is slightly better. However, I'm now running 7.7 out of 8gb of dedicated memory just by playing the game, so that number went up.

My memory and CPU use seems to be completely normal. It's just my GPU, which is a brand new higher end GPU on the market.
Daemonjax Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Donnie:
Borderless windowed mode is not even an option for me in the menu. I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

If you look carefully, you'll notice that you can set it to Exclusive Fullscreen when launching the game through the launcher.

By default, everyone is playing in Borderless Fullscreen -- I was just being very specific.


And.. "82 degree temps":

That's too high (imo). Check your cooling solution, or lack-thereof. On air cooling, none of my GPUs ever hit 65 degrees celsius @100% utilization. Start by running the case open (take the side off or whatever so everything is exposed). The temps should be slightly cooler WITH the case closed -- if it's not, it's an airflow problem somewhere. Could be the stock cooler is just ♥♥♥♥, though -- if you want to get all advanced (and void your warranty), you could try removing the cooler and just clean it and reseat it with better thermal paste (the best is liquid metal). Sometimes they just didn't spread the paste properly at the factory. I remember one of my old cards (ATI 5850... or was it the Nvidia 8800?) had a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cooler -- I took the cooler off, cleaned it, used liquid metal (maybe I didn't, actually), popped the fan off and zip-tied (2) 120mm fans to it running max speed all the time. Dropped core temps like 20 degrees. I think the other reason I did that was because the fan was a noisy ♥♥♥♥♥ when it was spinning at anything over 75% speed -- it was unbearable. The design itself was ♥♥♥♥, though. Maybe I didn't use liquid metal for that -- you can't use liquid metal on aluminum contact surfaces and I don't remember if it had a copper contact surface or not. I really don't remember, but the more I think about it, the more I think I didn't use liquid metal on the GPU.


And... "I'm now running 7.7 out of 8gb of dedicated memory just by playing the game, so that number went up":

Yeah, vysnc uses a little bit more vram. I wouldn't worry about it.


And... "I think it's not properly compatible with my GPU. I'm running 81% in the main menu"... "My memory and CPU use seems to be completely normal. It's just my GPU, which is a brand new higher end GPU on the market.":

I get 4% gpu uitilization at the main menu. I'd say that's a driver issue then. Just wait it out. That's just how things go when using the latest tech. Or I could sell you one of my extra 1070ti's (I have 2 extras -- I used to mine cryptocurrency with those two while playing games on the 3rd, hah!). I could use gpu drivers from 2 years ago, and the performance would be the same in games (excepting games that specifcally were fixed at the driver level between now and then, of course).
Last edited by Daemonjax; Nov 18, 2020 @ 8:27am
Zed Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Daemonjax:
Originally posted by Donnie:
Borderless windowed mode is not even an option for me in the menu. I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

If you look carefully, you'll notice that you can set it to Exclusive Fullscreen when launching the game through the launcher.

I see it. I will try it now.
Zed Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:34am 
It's staying the same. The only thing that has seemed to help is enabling V-SYNC. Thanks for the info man. You're the only person who has offered good advice so far.
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Daemonjax Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:44am 
Cool. My advice is good because I'm good at my job. Check out my edited reply for more info. I edit my responses a lot, instead of double/triple/quadruple posting :D

Last edited by Daemonjax; Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:53am
SaLaĐiN Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:20pm 
The temp limit on that Nvidia gpu is 88C. If the card is overheating, it will underclock itself and increase the speed of the fans significantly for a short period of time, trust me, you will hear that even with a headset on your head.


I don't exactly understand what exactly is the issue here because there is NONE.

The gpu is meant to be utilized fully.
Last edited by SaLaĐiN; Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:21pm
Zed Nov 18, 2020 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by SaLaDiN:
The temp limit on that Nvidia gpu is 88C. If the card is overheating, it will underclock itself and increase the speed of the fans significantly for a short period of time, trust me, you will hear that even with a headset on your head.


I don't exactly understand what exactly is the issue here because there is NONE.

The gpu is meant to be utilized fully.

The issue is the high temperatures. That's the concern. It doesn't happen in Alpha 18.4. It doesnt' happen in other voxel based games like Reign of Kings. It also doesn't happen with any other games I'm playing such as Red Dead 2, PUBG, Star Wars Squadrons, among others.
UnlistedSky2 Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:53pm 
Your computer is not specifically overheating because of 7 Days to Die. It might happen while you play it, but there's nothing in the game that says "overheat the system".
It's more likely that this game just stresses both your CPU and GPU to very high levels at the same time and your system is not equipped to handle it.

Voxel based games aren't really relevant to the discussion, and Reign of Kings came out like 5 years ago anyways so it isn't really system stresser if you have modern hardware.

It sounds like you aren't using VSync or a frame limiter since you mentioned that your results don't change if you go to lower settings. Graphics cards will always run to their fullest extent unless you stop it from doing so by limiting your frames, so if you aren't limiting them, heat is inevitable. If your cooling situation is the only problem you are experiencing, then improve it by investing in better cooling.

Simply put, your computer cannot cool itself down, get better cooling. Whatever game or software you happen to be running is irrelevant, if your cooling situation was adequate for your hardware, you could have your GPU and CPU sitting at 100% usage for a week straight without overheating.
SaLaĐiN Nov 19, 2020 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Donnie:
Originally posted by SaLaDiN:
The temp limit on that Nvidia gpu is 88C. If the card is overheating, it will underclock itself and increase the speed of the fans significantly for a short period of time, trust me, you will hear that even with a headset on your head.


I don't exactly understand what exactly is the issue here because there is NONE.

The gpu is meant to be utilized fully.

The issue is the high temperatures. That's the concern. It doesn't happen in Alpha 18.4. It doesnt' happen in other voxel based games like Reign of Kings. It also doesn't happen with any other games I'm playing such as Red Dead 2, PUBG, Star Wars Squadrons, among others.

You never said what kind of temp you get.

If 85% means 85C, the temp is fine.

The temp limit of the card is 88C, that is the treshold where it starts underclocking and ramp up the fans.

If you have some cheap model with the blower type cooling, that's the temp you will see often.
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