Install Steam
login
|
language
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese)
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese)
日本語 (Japanese)
한국어 (Korean)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarian)
Čeština (Czech)
Dansk (Danish)
Deutsch (German)
Español - España (Spanish - Spain)
Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America)
Ελληνικά (Greek)
Français (French)
Italiano (Italian)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
Magyar (Hungarian)
Nederlands (Dutch)
Norsk (Norwegian)
Polski (Polish)
Português (Portuguese - Portugal)
Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil)
Română (Romanian)
Русский (Russian)
Suomi (Finnish)
Svenska (Swedish)
Türkçe (Turkish)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)
Українська (Ukrainian)
Report a translation problem
Discussions Rules and Guidelines
Report this post
I wonder if this can be done for things like the household doors that are non craftable in vanilla.
I always had a "normal" looking nice house inside that Wall of doom i built for the Zombies, because, why not. The Wall is safe, theres no need for primitve reinforced-with-everything Doors.
On the Other side it was cool to do this in Pois, in the first nights or if you needed to hide for the night. Take the door and reinforce it with evereything you could find - that looked exactly like this and gave the whole thing much more depth.
In 7DTD, there is still a high level of education. It seems that the literacy rate is 100%. A very large amount of written material still exists. Knowledge of how to make advanced hand tools still exists, as does the knowledge of how to make the equipment necessary to make those tools. Resources are abundant. The idea that it's impossible to do a halfway decent job of basic carpentry in those conditions is ridiculous.
Fallout is worse in that respect, with it's silly scrap buildings that the inhabitants have left with sharp edges all over the place and holes in the walls and roofs.
Meanwhile in Fallout 4 without mods you can build fancy looking houses with pretty doors..
Agreed.
We often don't realise how goods are now produced in multiple separate parts from around the world and assembled some places where ppl don't even know how to make those parts, only assemble them when it's not automated assembly lines. Humanity knowledge is extremely fragmented and distributed with almost no ppl left knowing how (or able) to produce something from raw resources to the end product. Now kill 98% of the local population and try to save the knowledge...
Worse, supply lines are broken, no one want to risk coming where we are with the radiation and the infection. The little they do is drop a few basic survival supplies from planes... they even nuked us to try and stop the disease from spreading...
But we should care about manufacturing nice looking doors...
Btw, I'm not against the game allowing to build nice things. I just consider it's simply content to please the builders in the playerbase, but it's definitely not realistic and that's ok as the game isn't that much heavy on the realistic side anyway.
Fallout 4 beside mostly scrappy and some industrial looking tech tiles , furniture and doors also has few variants of pre-war quality looking furniture and homestead doors that are intact and not barred up or broken down that you can craft (no mods or CCs). Like the brown wooden house door for example.
With all these you can make some pretty looking living spaces for your survivor.
I don't have Fallout 4 currently installed on my device but i may post some screenshots later.
EDIT:
Actually nevermind i found some of my old screenies that i didn't upload.
All these you can build without any mods or CCs. Just what Fallout 4 GOTY gives you:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3186498787
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3186498688
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3186498593
While not as fancy as the 3 above screenshots here is an example of one of the craftable intact wooden homestead doors:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3186498885
It looks much closer to 7 Days To Die homestead doors in POIs that you can't craft yourself. Minus the boards.
So in my opinion the Sole Survivor can make some pretty fancy looking living space for themselves in the apocalypse ^^
That's the point - the buildings are not fit for personal survival. It's not about how they look. It's about how they function. Or, more accurately, don't function. Sharp edges are a significant hazard in a world without much effective medicine. You don't want cuts when an infection can easily kill you. Ceilings with holes in don't keep the rain out. Walls with holes in don't offer much thermal insulation. They aren't good shelter and good shelter is a key factor in survival. People who didn't care or didn't understand would be long dead. Probably early in the first winter.
And anyway, yes, people would care about how their homes looked. And their furniture. People do. Certainly once the immediate collapse of civilisation is past. During which people who couldn't make practical shelter and furniture would have died. 200 years later, there should be pretty decent manufacturing skills. By necessity and by preference.
I'm a townie in a wealthy country who's never built anything more complicated than assembling flatpack furniture and I could put together a functional shelter from locally sourced materials in the countryside, let alone with the benefit of scavenging from the remains of an advanced civilisation. After years of practice I could learn to do a decent job of it. And tell other people how to do so. After 200 years, pretty much everyone should be pretty good at it. Particularly since literacy rates are very high in the Fallout world and a lot of pre-apocalypse written material still exists. As do a lot of pre-war objects, including some that don't require high tech manufacturing and infrastructure. For example, examining a wooden chair would at least tell a survivor something about how to make joints in wood. Knowledge that they could use when making their own wooden furniture from new wood. Etc.
Then there's the silly lack of realism in most post-apocalypse games when it comes to furnishings. If a person has made new cloth from fresh plants and new furniture from fresh (or seasoned) wood, how are they making it look like old pre-apocalypse stuff, rotten and filthy and looking like something died in it and the body rotted in it? And why are they doing that?
This video does a good job of explaining this, specifically about the Fallout world but it applies to most post-apocalypse games. Skip to ~11:30 if you're short on time and/or patience. You can skip that much and still get the gist of video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIrB9TFmCmA
No, the problem isn't solved because they still look as tacky. There are lovely doors in the game and we can't craft them.
You don't have a mortise and tenon machine or jig you don't have a router you don't have a saw, clamps or sandpaper. Maybe if you want to over simplify things some more you could make it a recipe in the work bench. It does stretch the imagination. But what the hell it's the alpaca lips, why not.