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TnT4u Jul 12, 2024 @ 7:10pm
Daily Updates?
Deleted the op because the question was answered and some people can't help themselves being rude.
Thank you to all who had real solutions. I made a copy of my game directory.
Last edited by TnT4u; Jul 20, 2024 @ 5:19am
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TnT4u Jul 12, 2024 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by SHIENHAUSSER:
Originally posted by TnT4u:
It shows 6GB on my end.

edit: BTW i'm not upset I was just trying to understand why. But if it was fixing a critical issue then I understand, just sucks the download is so big.

No, it sucks your connection is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You have had several people address your actual problem but you won't acknowledge it, still saying that the file size is the problem. I'm sorry you don't have a choice of internet speed, but you will have to live with it. Your bandwidth is not something the Dev's have to see as an issue. I remember when on dial-up it took me 6 hours to download a 60mb file... I never complained because that's how it was.
No to what? I already know that my internet is slow I even acknowledged that in the OP. So to respond to people saying thats my problem instead of replying to my question about daily updates is pointless. You've missed the point of the OP.
Blue Hasia Jul 12, 2024 @ 8:24pm 
My point still stands: I think this is a Steam issue that makes players download more than is needed in the patch.

I believe TFP patches are smaller than 6 gigs, but with how Steam patches games now, it needs to redownload a lot more than what was actually changed.
TnT4u Jul 12, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Blue Hasia:
My point still stands: I think this is a Steam issue that makes players download more than is needed in the patch.

I believe TFP patches are smaller than 6 gigs, but with how Steam patches games now, it needs to redownload a lot more than what was actually changed.
Are you sure about this and its just not how the update files are packaged? I know Stalker GAMMA had this issue a while back and they changed how they did updates and they are a lot smaller now.
Last edited by TnT4u; Jul 12, 2024 @ 8:35pm
Tanaka Khan Jul 12, 2024 @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by TnT4u:
Originally posted by God At War46:
If it takes 12 hours for a 6gb update then I think It's time to upgrade your internet.
Like I said in the op thats my only option.
Because they are catering for the masses, not the minority
JDaremo Fireheart Jul 12, 2024 @ 9:44pm 
As was stated before; if you don't like the fast updates, opt out of experimental cause the updates are going to continue to be fast. They are trying to iron out as much as possible in the next 12 days to be ready for the 1.0 public release on the 25th.
Tahnval Jul 12, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
I'm currently on mostly broken ADSL2+. I'm getting 2Mbps. And yes, that's bits not bytes.

So each patch for 7DTD A22/1.0 experimental is a 9+ hour download for me.

And that's my problem because I chose to opt into getting experimental builds of the new alpha.

Frequent patches are expected and a good thing in the context of an experimental build. Why on earth would they delay fixes just because someone chose to opt in to experimental builds of a new alpha while having slow access to the internet? That's not the fault of everyone else who opted into experimental, so why should they have to wait for your convenience? Or mine, or anyone else's. Also, it would mean that the devs would have to delay the release of the stable version of the alpha because widespread playtesting is part of the development process.

Originally posted by CatPerson:
Tell Steam to not update games Until I Launch the game. Then don't update 7 days, and when you want to play it, go into Offline mode first (and also fully exit Steam client/reopen it, after picking Offline, in case) first. Works for me, at least. Edit: that' for SP play of course. If you like to MP I suppose that's wouldn't fly.
[..]

There's an easier way. Just copy-paste the whole 7DTD directory structure to anywhere else on your PC and run the game from there. Creating a shortcut to the exe on the desktop is the simplest convenient way to do that. You'll have 2 fully functional installations of 7DTD. The installation is that clean. The first installation, in the Steam directory structure, will update according to your choices in the Steam client. The second installation, wherever you put it on your PC, will never update. Both will hook into Steam, access Epic Online Services, whatever. But only the installation in the Steam directory structure will update.

I currently have 3 installations of 7DTD. The one in the Steam directory structure is updating to today's version of the experimental build. The second (in a different directory I created and called "7DTD overhaul") is A21 with Tongo Mod on it. The third, in yet another directory I created, is the 2nd version of the experimental build, the patch from earlier this week. Which is the one I'm playing.

The sole drawback is that Steam won't update the main installation while you're playing a different installation. The update will pause.
Last edited by Tahnval; Jul 12, 2024 @ 9:57pm
CatPerson Jul 12, 2024 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by Tahnval:
There's an easier way. Just copy-paste the whole 7DTD directory structure to anywhere else on your PC and run the game from there.
Yes, I'm aware. But that assumes one has already downloaded various versions to swap back and forth with. The complaint was how long the OP's 'net takes to download anything.

My suggestion was more regarding if the OP wanting to be able to update experimental in their own good time, vs. opening the game to play and then feeling immediately forced to be stuck downloading for hours instead. So they could then set a day aside to download/update the game once a week or whatever.
Last edited by CatPerson; Jul 12, 2024 @ 11:12pm
circeseye Jul 13, 2024 @ 1:51am 
it says 3.3gb BUT, i clicked download went to check what was in the update and it finished. didnt even have time to read it. i have pretty fast internet and comp but not that fast for it to download and install under a minute
Last edited by circeseye; Jul 13, 2024 @ 1:53am
Tahnval Jul 13, 2024 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by SylenThunder:
[..]
Also, it was a 3.3GB download. Not 6. [..]

It's 8.2GB for me. On an unmodified installation of 7DTD that hasn't even been played (I have another installation that I'm playing from).
Marbaus Jul 13, 2024 @ 10:53am 
While its downloading I've been pushing through on the 'launcher'. I'm in the same boat with poor throughput. Just use the launcher and it'll have an option to play and you can set it to download at the same time, or just keep it a the previous stable/experimental if that somehow doesn't work.
Tahnval Jul 13, 2024 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by CatPerson:
Originally posted by Tahnval:
There's an easier way. Just copy-paste the whole 7DTD directory structure to anywhere else on your PC and run the game from there.
Yes, I'm aware. But that assumes one has already downloaded various versions to swap back and forth with.

No, it doesn't. It requires that the player currently has a functioning playable installation of 7DTD. The same requirement applies to the method you suggested.

The complaint was how long the OP's 'net takes to download anything.

My suggestion was more regarding if the OP wanting to be able to update experimental in their own good time, vs. opening the game to play and then feeling immediately forced to be stuck downloading for hours instead. So they could then set a day aside to download/update the game once a week or whatever.

I'm not seeing how the method you suggested would solve that problem. If someone has a single installation and it's already started updating, neither of the methods will work. In all other circumstances, both methods will work.
CatPerson Jul 13, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by Tahnval:
I'm not seeing how the method you suggested would solve that problem. If someone has a single installation and it's already started updating, neither of the methods will work. In all other circumstances, both methods will work.
Oh for heaven's sake. I did not say it would help with his *current* download.
It can help him prevent it from happening with future updates tho, so he doesn't have to deal with it (a half day download) again until/unless he specifically wants to that day.

Like I said, I'm still on b309. I log into the steam client every day, to read/post in forums. The 7 Days experimental install has the blue text notifying "requires an update". It stays that way, and does not even start updating/downloading, as long as I do not hit PLAY while in Online mode and only hit PLAY/open the game while in Offline mode. Edit: then after playing, he could start the download/update when he goes to bed. Understand now?

EDIT: I do think one should exit/restart Steam client for the Offline mode now, tho. If you just tell Steam to "go Offline", that blue text on game names still exists, like maybe it's not truly Offline mode doing that, not sure. You have to restart Steam client while in Offline mode for that blue text to disappear in Offline mode, these days.

That said, it's also possible if he stops/pauses the download (if it hasn't actually reached the install process) before it finishes downloading, he may be still able to put Steam into Offline mode and play. I've done that before too, when taken by surprise with a patch D/L I didn't want yet, and it sometimes works - but depends on game, download size/speed, process, luck etc so I wouldn't rely on pausing download too much. Sometimes if a download has already been started, even starting in Offline mode you'll get the must-update message.

There are a few games/times (maybe it's just a dev choice? or on MMO/MP only types as well?) where "only update on game launch" doesn't always prevent it because the game D/L ignores the setting and starts immediate download anyway. 7 Days hasn't been one of them. For me at least. *shrug*
Last edited by CatPerson; Jul 13, 2024 @ 12:45pm
MayaTKOTC Jul 13, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by TnT4u:
Originally posted by God At War46:
If it takes 12 hours for a 6gb update then I think It's time to upgrade your internet.
Like I said in the op thats my only option.
get starlink
Tahnval Jul 13, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by CatPerson:
Originally posted by Tahnval:
I'm not seeing how the method you suggested would solve that problem. If someone has a single installation and it's already started updating, neither of the methods will work. In all other circumstances, both methods will work.
Oh for heaven's sake. I did not say it would help with his *current* download. [..]

I didn't say you did.

I still say that either method would work if the player has a existing playable installation of 7DTD. Copying that installation doesn't require already having various versions installed. Your statement that it does was wrong.
Last edited by Tahnval; Jul 13, 2024 @ 5:59pm
Macdallan Jul 13, 2024 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by TnT4u:
Daily Updates?

Is there a reason for pushing updates on experimental daily? I know I'm in the minority with only having the option for DSL internet but I haven't been able to play the game now for 2 days because the downloads are 6+ GB and it takes 12+ hours to download the updates. Why can't it just be a weekly update?

That's often how experimental versions work, as soon as they have fixes or changes they put them up so players on the experimental version can test them and provide feedback. No sense in leaving them for once a week if they can push an update on a Monday, find out there's an issue with something by Tuesday at noon, and then have it fixed and a patch uploaded by Wednesday night for players to experience and test out for them before the week-end...

If your DSL is that slow you should consider sticking with the current live version of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if more updates for the 1.0 experimental version keep coming out.
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