The pipe shotgun is the worst

[Kauldric]

If I wanted to make someone new to the game have literal worst experience in the game, like if I really wanted them to suffer, I would say, 'hey you should totally go for pipe shotguns".

Can anything be killed with this thing?

I would literally take a level 1 bone shiv to the thing. Even a well-aimed point blank shot to the head doesn't kill a weak zombie. Then I have to spend several seconds reloading the thing.

I would say *almost* every other weapons is going to be better, but then I realized it would be an insult to other weapons that are actually halfway decent.

Ok, rant over :)

[Uncle Al]

It's not great, true, but headshotting is a bad idea until you can put a choke mod in. Too much of the shot will usually miss and you don't get a kill.

A centre mass chest shot will kill a basic zombie, or leave a feral hurt enough you can probably melee it down without taking major damage. More importantly, a well aimed pipe shotgun round will often kill a dog or a regular wolf.

The pipe shotgun is pretty bad, I grant you, but it does give you way to make use of early shotgun shells and it will stop the things that frequently will kill you early game.

Carrying a couple of them gets around the horrible reload speed a little. It at least gives you a chance if you fluff your first shot.

[Bo0Mz]

pipe weapons are meant to be good while they have ammo and get you killed once the ammo runs out
especially the pipe shotgun
keep a good melee weapon with you at all times and switch the pipe weapons to regular weapon as soon as you can

[Trooper Bri]

I don't even bother with guns on plain vanilla until first horde night. And when I do finally carry a pipe shotty, until a better shotgun comes along, I use it as intended. A last second shot to stun zeds so I can get a little space between us.

That's all it is. Quick insurance when you're looting. You shouldn't be relying on it for real combat. That's why you can make it from plant fiber and bunny farts.

[comet_65cali]

Blunderbuss strat: Carry more than one pipe shotgun, fire off volleys. Make sure they are all loaded before moving on.

[I can't spell]

3 shot gun blasts DIRECTLY TO THE HEAD OF A WOLF... did not kill it. Yeah I agree with the OP.

[Johnny Thunder]

it sucks because the double barrel isn't a whole lot better.

would like to see shotguns split into two types like handguns:

pipe-> pump action -> auto shotgun
pipe-> Elephant Gun -> Riot Gun (like in Shadow Warrior, 4 shot burst then quick reload)

have the second line use magnum instead of shells

elephant gun is a double barrel but with much better range (can use saw off mod to turn it into current shotgun, maybe even let it use shells in this mode if not too much trouble to code).

[Kauldric]

With a duckbill mod it's a little bit better, but the reload is so slow it becomes ineffective. The double barrel reloads much faster so it's viable in that regards. With a double barrel at point blank range you can kill most zombies, and if you don't, you can double shoot really fast.

[Johnny Thunder]

pipe is supposed to be weaker. problem is the double barrel is pretty weak already, if they make the pipe shotgun too powerful there's not enough of a difference between them

[Midas]

Originally posted by Johnny Thunder:

it sucks because the double barrel isn't a whole lot better.

would like to see shotguns split into two types like handguns:

pipe-> pump action -> auto shotgun
pipe-> Elephant Gun -> Riot Gun (like in Shadow Warrior, 4 shot burst then quick reload)

have the second line use magnum instead of shells

elephant gun is a double barrel but with much better range (can use saw off mod to turn it into current shotgun, maybe even let it use shells in this mode if not too much trouble to code).

Double barrel is miles better. Tighter choke, way faster reload. You can actually fight with a double barrel while a pipe shotgun is basically just going to only ever get one shot.

[vonVile]

They shouldn't have removed the blunderbuss. It was perfect.

I don't even waste my time with the pipe shotgun. If a trader has any other shotgun for sale I buy it. I was able to buy a level 2 pump shotgun within the first 3 days by doing all jobs and selling everything.

[jynx]

A Ballistic Fist would be nice, since they like to borrow from Falliout.

[Gerg From Woolies]

Originally posted by I can't spell:

3 shot gun blasts DIRECTLY TO THE HEAD OF A WOLF... did not kill it. Yeah I agree with the OP.

What difficulty are you playing on?

[MiSFiT77]

Originally posted by Mick the ♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by I can't spell:

3 shot gun blasts DIRECTLY TO THE HEAD OF A WOLF... did not kill it. Yeah I agree with the OP.

What difficulty are you playing on?

What colour were the Wolfs eyes ?

[Sally]

i avoid ALL shotguns in this game, the way they work is just borked..... ak all day baby <3

[Johnny Thunder]

Originally posted by Midas:

Originally posted by Johnny Thunder:

it sucks because the double barrel isn't a whole lot better.

would like to see shotguns split into two types like handguns:

pipe-> pump action -> auto shotgun
pipe-> Elephant Gun -> Riot Gun (like in Shadow Warrior, 4 shot burst then quick reload)

have the second line use magnum instead of shells

elephant gun is a double barrel but with much better range (can use saw off mod to turn it into current shotgun, maybe even let it use shells in this mode if not too much trouble to code).

Double barrel is miles better. Tighter choke, way faster reload. You can actually fight with a double barrel while a pipe shotgun is basically just going to only ever get one shot.

you can fight with both vs slower zombies, just run away for a bit before reloading. pipe can actually do better burst damage because you can easily make a bunch of them and reload them after the fight. either way, there just isn't a whole lot of room to improve pipe shotguns without making them almost as good as the double barrel.