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chaosbanryu12 Jan 14, 2016 @ 11:39am
Really bad game physics
Im not one to complain about 7DTD, but one of my biggest pet peeves is the physics in this game. One day i decided to remove a small mountain that was in the way of my base moat, and dug around it and underneath it so i can isolate it. After 10 days of mining and TNTing, its still wont go down!! Now i have a floating mountain near my base >_<. While my floors are collapsing so easily (foundation, reinforced floor, etc), I cant even collapse a small mountain!!
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Outcast Jan 14, 2016 @ 11:47am 
Since physics is a pretty recent addition to the game, I wouldn't expect perfection for a while.
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Dies Fourth Jan 14, 2016 @ 12:32pm 
For a 1st pass id say you were WAY off base.................... its alpha, aka add the systems/mechanics and see how they perform.

Beta is where the polish/balancing gets added.

Mayyyyyyyyyyyybe this was feedback.......................it all sounds overly emotional to me anymore so i cant really tell.

If you really want to provide useable feednack include a few screenshots and as much details as possible. If you just want to complain about a game 1/2 finished, thats your perogative as well : /
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Rise Up Lights Jan 14, 2016 @ 12:37pm 
its been in alpha longer then dayz it should be done by now
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chaosbanryu12 Jan 14, 2016 @ 12:50pm 
Well i completely understand this is alpha!! Again, im not trying to put down the marvelous game that TFP provided. Its just compared to Alpha 12, the physics seemed like a step back. In A11 and A12, I take down mountains easily and expected them to crumble. But A13, i felt with the new system, it should have been improved. Yet it felt that it was a step back in the physics department
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Rise Up Lights Jan 14, 2016 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by chaosbanryu12:
Well i completely understand this is alpha!! Again, im not trying to put down the marvelous game that TFP provided. Its just compared to Alpha 12, the physics seemed like a step back. In A11 and A12, I take down mountains easily and expected them to crumble. But A13, i felt with the new system, it should have been improved. Yet it felt that it was a step back in the physics department
i agree 100% this should of been fixed literally a year ago....
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Poppa Jan 14, 2016 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by chaosbanryu12:
Im not one to complain about 7DTD, but one of my biggest pet peeves is the physics in this game. One day i decided to remove a small mountain that was in the way of my base moat, and dug around it and underneath it so i can isolate it. After 10 days of mining and TNTing, its still wont go down!! Now i have a floating mountain near my base >_<. While my floors are collapsing so easily (foundation, reinforced floor, etc), I cant even collapse a small mountain!!

I can see why this might happen in other programs. A basic explanation is that a block will check to see if it has a connection with other blocks within a given radius. If it does then it won't fall. (over simplified for sake of discussion) Thus the blocks in the center of your mountain see enough blocks around them to anchor it all in place. They have to define some finite variable such as radius to do this that and it's going to have limits like you experienced. Also, as you increase the radius is in my example you decrease the game performance very quickly.
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Mytheos Jan 14, 2016 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Blaine:
its been in alpha longer then dayz it should be done by now

Dayz's development has nothing to do with 7D2D...

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chaosbanryu12 Jan 14, 2016 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Zed Basher:
Originally posted by chaosbanryu12:
Im not one to complain about 7DTD, but one of my biggest pet peeves is the physics in this game. One day i decided to remove a small mountain that was in the way of my base moat, and dug around it and underneath it so i can isolate it. After 10 days of mining and TNTing, its still wont go down!! Now i have a floating mountain near my base >_<. While my floors are collapsing so easily (foundation, reinforced floor, etc), I cant even collapse a small mountain!!

I can see why this might happen in other programs. A basic explanation is that a block will check to see if it has a connection with other blocks within a given radius. If it does then it won't fall. (over simplified for sake of discussion) Thus the blocks in the center of your mountain see enough blocks around them to anchor it all in place. They have to define some finite variable such as radius to do this that and it's going to have limits like you experienced. Also, as you increase the radius is in my example you decrease the game performance very quickly.

In other words....I need more TNT xD
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KLOWN Jan 14, 2016 @ 1:33pm 
one can never have enough tnt lol

good luck i love blowing crap up!!!
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Poppa Jan 14, 2016 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by KLOWN:
one can never have enough tnt lol

good luck i love blowing crap up!!!

The simple pleasures of life...
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Aragon Jan 14, 2016 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Outcast:
Since physics is a pretty recent addition to the game, I wouldn't expect perfection for a while.

Ye, physics was added in A12 or A13 ......ya kidding around ? Was in a5 allready when i first played the game.
Have a look here, at this OLD vid, go to 3:25 .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5O8TFYa9i8
The physics r screwed now, it was working for a while allready.
Last edited by Aragon; Jan 14, 2016 @ 2:28pm
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Mytheos Jan 14, 2016 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Aragon_1974:
Originally posted by Outcast:
Since physics is a pretty recent addition to the game, I wouldn't expect perfection for a while.

Ye, physics was added in A12 or A13 ......ya kidding around ? Was in a5 allready when i first played the game.
Have a look here, at this OLD vid, go to 3:25 .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5O8TFYa9i8
The physics r screwed now, it was working for a while allready.

http://7daystodie.com/mini-bikes-physics-bears-a12/
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Hades Jan 14, 2016 @ 4:18pm 
Indie alphas don't appear to be any faster than AAA studios.

While corporations get slowed by buearocracy, indie developers get slowed by creative stimulants (aka beer)
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Dies Fourth Jan 14, 2016 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Mytheos:
Originally posted by Aragon_1974:

Ye, physics was added in A12 or A13 ......ya kidding around ? Was in a5 allready when i first played the game.
Have a look here, at this OLD vid, go to 3:25 .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5O8TFYa9i8
The physics r screwed now, it was working for a while allready.

http://7daystodie.com/mini-bikes-physics-bears-a12/

How timely you posted that : )

I was jussssssssssssssst about to do a search on how to build the mini-bike lol

With my luck ill build it in doors and never get it OUTdoors lol
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KLOWN Jan 14, 2016 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Dies Fourth:
Originally posted by Mytheos:

http://7daystodie.com/mini-bikes-physics-bears-a12/

How timely you posted that : )

I was jussssssssssssssst about to do a search on how to build the mini-bike lol

With my luck ill build it in doors and never get it OUTdoors lol
tnt can fix that lol :P
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