Navezgane or Random Generation?

[Lycrus]

Heya!

Newish player here wanting to play 7 Days with a friend.

Would it be best to play on Navezgane, or generate a random map?
I have heard that Navezgane is appearently incredibly outdated?

[Wingblaze]

Tough call. Navazgane is curated but also kinda spread out so you spend a lot of time travelling. Random gen gives you the ability to tweak things to your liking (no ravines? no problem) but can break trader progression. Both have their uses.

[JimmyIowa]

I recommend random gen. Navezgane may not have all the newest buildings or map/road/lake features (many of which are pretty cool). There's also nothing particularly special about navezgane that makes it better for a new player, over random gen.

Although for experienced players, it's true that some people like playing navezgane just because they know exactly where everything is when they start on day1, which makes a playthrough faster and easier.

[Jethro]

I will say from personal experience that Navezgane feels way better in terms of map layout. Hand-crafted map will always be better than random gen, IMO. Random gen tends to have a lot of copy/paste POIs where Navezgane just feels more natural.

That said, I feel like the replay value on Navezgane isn’t very strong. To each their own though.

[Pain Weasel]

Navezgane has been updated, but I don't know if every new POI is there. That being said there are some POIs that are ONLY found in Navezgane. The tunnel is one of my favorites, not sure why.

Progression in a RWG map will be faster because there are more POIs, and more duplicate POIs, and they are closer together.

For example, in Navezgane there is only one Crack A Book store and one Crack A Book cafe. Those are great places to find magazines and books, which you need to increase crafting.

My last random map had 14 Crack A Book POIs, and 4 Crack A Book cafes. You could max out every crafting skill in the game just by visiting them. In Navezgane that isn't an option so progression can be slower, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Random maps can also have more than 5 traders. I had a map with 20. That effectively gives you more chances to buy good loot if that is your thing, but it can get easy too quickly of you overdo it.

Navezgane can be rough for a new player, but at the same time, depending on your map, a random world can be way too easy. I've been trying to find a good balance for years and I had found it in A21, then 1.0 came along and made all my maps obsolete.

[Serious]

I recommend navezgane at first.

The layout and also the POI are not just random set but allow a bit more structure in the gameplay and learning. Same for the placement of the trader and pretty much every poi is unique and not 10 times available seperated over a huge map.

Random gen is something for additional playtrough, with additional POI (Note that some POI are only in random generated maps and some are only available in navezgane), and also the possibilites you have with the map generator and additional tweaks are interesting.

I agree that the progression is defintly slower at navezgane but i won't say that makes the map harder at all. That's something good for new player as you have more time to learn the basics and get the right feeling for 7d2d stuff.

[draxthewickedone]

For me, Navesgane is a bit borring. Not just now, it was like that even when i played it for the first time. Not bad, but i liked random worlds more. Navesgane is spread out a bit too much for my taste. There is also the thing that was already mentioned: no new POIs. And i really like to explore them. But since you're newish player, you'll have no problems with that since (i'm guessing) most of the POIs will be new for you anyway, be it Navesgane or random.

[Tahnval]

I'd recommend random gen for a new player. Navezgane is harder and has much, much slower progression. The reason is the same for both - it's very spread out. A handful of smallish settlements and a bunch of individual POIs. On top of that, the map contains some impassible features that require you to go around them, making POIs effectively even more spread out. In the early game, you'll spend most of your time walking to somewhere. While starving and dehydrated, more often than not.

Then there's the more limited selection of POIs. "I don't know that POI, I'll explore it" is part of the fun for me. Navezgane will have some of that for a new player, but a random gen will have a lot more of it.

Navezgane is an old story map for a story that doesn't exist yet.