V1 things that are annoying.

[Zenlin]

I have over 2500 hours in game so know something about it.
Archery with primitive bow. Hit box seems to be to the left of centre mass, particularly at a distance.
I don't like Navzgane so always play a pregen. I suspect the RNG is at issue. Took 3 different goes playing the same pregen before I saw a rabbit or chicken. No rabbits or chickens since day 2 (now on day 6). Am going on cans but limited amount. Am electing to reset every second day by starvation. Fortunately found a muddy ditch so drinking murky water as required. Very little murky water found otherwise, toilets are mostly paper. Normal issues finding a pot for the campfire.
You can eat raw food but doesn't get you far unless you come across a lot of eggs, they are good for 5 points and no dysentry.
Oh, this is also the 1st time in 2500 hours that I have been getting the dysentery bug lol.
Suspect electing to die will get old. Will keep my eye on the chats to see if the numbers of rabbits and chickens improve before I spend any more money on the game.

[God Bless The Dead]

There is bottled murky water literally everywhere, in every single poi.. water has never been an issue, not now and not ever, the same with a cooking pot.. just go inside poi's, that simple.. or simply do 1-2 simple tier 1 trader quests and buy one in a few minutes..

And there are chickens and rabbit literally everywhere, but if you want to wait and see if that improves before "spending more money on the game".. whatever that means, you do you..

[Undefined]

I really think Animal Tracker should be used before concluding that there's something wrong with the game.

My own experience using it, there are quite a few times in an area where there's not animals, but moving further ahead and there's like 2 or 4 (of which you can't see because they're either far or something, like grass, is obstructing your vision).

Anyway, I know 1pt in the early game is a big deal, but if you can't find animals and your strategy relies on animals, it's probably worth spending that 1pt on Animal Tracker. Save yourself the time and frustration.

[Tahnval]

The forest biome has the fewest animal spawns outside of POIs with guaranteed animal spawns. That makes no sense as it's the biome best suited to animal life, but it's that way because reasons.

I'm currently on day 25. I didn't leave the forest biome for the first couple of weeks and then only for brief trips because I like living in the forest biome and I like Rekt.

I haven't hunted any animals. I've only killed animals that attacked me. Except maybe 1 or 2 chickens and rabbits, probably by running over the ones that insist on sprinting under your wheels. Most of the few rabbits I've seen in the forest biome were hidden by foliage until they moved.

I have >100 spare meat. The only food I've cooked has been bacon and eggs, a couple of dozen portions. The rest has been food from loot and a couple of portions of food from trader payments when I didn't want any of the other options. I haven't even eaten anything from my farm yet. The farm has been mostly to do the challenges, though I'll probably set it up for veg stew and coffee. I've got 50 coffees boiling at the moment while I'm out and about.

Water has been mostly from looting, although in this playthrough I made a dew collector because it's different. I like to play with new things in each alpha. I bought all the mods for it from Rekt, so I get 6 purified water pretty often. That would probably be more than enough to cover my drinking water needs by itself.

The animal hoarder's house (the one with "Dog Pig Snek Man" painted on it) alone will get you meat for days from the aggro animals guaranteed to spawn in it.

Originally posted by Undefined:

[..]
Anyway, I know 1pt in the early game is a big deal, but if you can't find animals and your strategy relies on animals, it's probably worth spending that 1pt on Animal Tracker. Save yourself the time and frustration.

I agree. Although I prefer to not use a strategy that relies on hunting animals, 1 point into a core skill for a chosen strategy seems like a very good idea to me.

[Zenlin]

Originally posted by God Bless The Dead:

There is bottled murky water literally everywhere, in every single poi.. water has never been an issue, not now and not ever, the same with a cooking pot.. just go inside poi's, that simple.. or simply do 1-2 simple tier 1 trader quests and buy one in a few minutes..

And there are chickens and rabbit literally everywhere, but if you want to wait and see if that improves before "spending more money on the game".. whatever that means, you do you..

As stated in my post I wonder if it's a RNG issue. With over 2500 hours in the game I have done everything obvious to look for water and pots. Multiple POI's. I do not recall the last time I bought a pot.

[Agenda 2025]

Got more meat than I know what to do with by peaking over the border into the snow biome for daytime meat. Also, weird but I stand on my house at night in the pine biome and can snipe chickens and rabbits with ease around the house. More animal activity at night than day seems to be what I've noticed for pine biome in Navzgame. They just sit in the middle of the roads and then pow! Lunch.

[Zhorge]

Originally posted by Zenlin:

I have over 2500 hours in game so know something about it.

And yet...

Archery with primitive bow. Hit box seems to be to the left of centre mass, particularly at a distance.

No, it works fine. There are inaccuracy penalties built into weapons. It's not that you've 'gotten good' as you've progressed, it's the game has cut down the deviation of your shots. Simply put, the more primitive and lower-tier the weapon, the less accurate and the less damage.

I don't like Navzgane so always play a pregen. I suspect the RNG is at issue. Took 3 different goes playing the same pregen before I saw a rabbit or chicken. No rabbits or chickens since day 2 (now on day 6). Am going on cans but limited amount. Am electing to reset every second day by starvation.

There are chickens and rabbits everywhere. Especially on or near roads that are out of town. Deer are routinely hanging out near the edges of the town. Boars are easy to find in burnt forests.

Fortunately found a muddy ditch so drinking murky water as required. Very little murky water found otherwise, toilets are mostly paper. Normal issues finding a pot for the campfire.

Pots are routinely found in the small houses. Trader quests will give them to you as rewards or you'll get enough Dukes to buy one quite quickly.

You can eat raw food but doesn't get you far unless you come across a lot of eggs, they are good for 5 points and no dysentry.

Oh, this is also the 1st time in 2500 hours that I have been getting the dysentery bug lol.
Suspect electing to die will get old. Will keep my eye on the chats to see if the numbers of rabbits and chickens improve before I spend any more money on the game.

What bug? Sure, stopped playing around Alpha 17 and only just came back. But when I looked for the bug with Google, only your post came back. Goldenrod tea is the early-game solution.

[Tahnval]

Originally posted by Zhorge:

Originally posted by Zenlin:

[..]Oh, this is also the 1st time in 2500 hours that I have been getting the dysentery bug lol.
[..]

What bug? Sure, stopped playing around Alpha 17 and only just came back. But when I looked for the bug with Google, only your post came back. Goldenrod tea is the early-game solution.

My guess is that "bug" in that context is referring to the germs that cause dysentry.

Whenever I read "dysentry" now I think of Rekt. "Smells like...dysentry".

[Somnion]

Originally posted by Zenlin:

I have over 2500 hours in game so know something about it.
Archery with primitive bow. Hit box seems to be to the left of centre mass, particularly at a distance.
I don't like Navzgane so always play a pregen. I suspect the RNG is at issue. Took 3 different goes playing the same pregen before I saw a rabbit or chicken. No rabbits or chickens since day 2 (now on day 6). Am going on cans but limited amount. Am electing to reset every second day by starvation. Fortunately found a muddy ditch so drinking murky water as required. Very little murky water found otherwise, toilets are mostly paper. Normal issues finding a pot for the campfire.
You can eat raw food but doesn't get you far unless you come across a lot of eggs, they are good for 5 points and no dysentry.
Oh, this is also the 1st time in 2500 hours that I have been getting the dysentery bug lol.
Suspect electing to die will get old. Will keep my eye on the chats to see if the numbers of rabbits and chickens improve before I spend any more money on the game.

Take out your bow and ready an arrow. See the crosshair in the middle? The cone is pretty big. Now walk around: the cone will get slightly bigger. Now hold right click and zoom. The cone will get much smaller. If you're using a bow, you need to stand still for a second and zoom for the best accuracy.

Look through your skills, and put a point into animal tracking. Now you'll locate any nearby rabbit/chicken when crouching.

I highly doubt you have 2500 hours if you're being defeated by very basic issues.

[Pain Weasel]

Deer still spawn in the forest biome, but only at night. Some nights I see none, some nights I see 3. Just be careful not to confuse them with zombie dogs in the dark.

I've also ran into a roaming wolf packs in the forest, but that was at around level 30 or so.

[projectmayhem]

I play with my stepson and his girlfriend. For the first 14 days they have done nothing but mine, chop, and build. I've done nothing but run trader missions in the forest. I've looted so much food and water we've had to upgrade the chest twice just to hold it all. IF you are struggling that badly with food/water I would suggest running more trader missions. At least you can use the dukes to buy food and water if it comes to that.

Animals are scare now. There are mods to re-add them back to pre-1.0 levels. I found more luck with them in the desert than anywhere else.

[Zenlin]

Originally posted by Undefined:

I really think Animal Tracker should be used before concluding that there's something wrong with the game.

My own experience using it, there are quite a few times in an area where there's not animals, but moving further ahead and there's like 2 or 4 (of which you can't see because they're either far or something, like grass, is obstructing your vision).

Anyway, I know 1pt in the early game is a big deal, but if you can't find animals and your strategy relies on animals, it's probably worth spending that 1pt on Animal Tracker. Save yourself the time and frustration.

Interesting point, I have not used Animal tracker since alpha 18 or 19 I think. believe it was only useful for tracking animals you saw, may look into that thanking you

[Zenlin]

Originally posted by Tahnval:

Originally posted by Zhorge:

What bug? Sure, stopped playing around Alpha 17 and only just came back. But when I looked for the bug with Google, only your post came back. Goldenrod tea is the early-game solution.

My guess is that "bug" in that context is referring to the germs that cause dysentry.

Whenever I read "dysentry" now I think of Rekt. "Smells like...dysentry".

yup bug=germ. My bad, shouldn't use slang in a world post

[Zenlin]

Originally posted by Zenlin:

Originally posted by Undefined:

I really think Animal Tracker should be used before concluding that there's something wrong with the game.

My own experience using it, there are quite a few times in an area where there's not animals, but moving further ahead and there's like 2 or 4 (of which you can't see because they're either far or something, like grass, is obstructing your vision).

Anyway, I know 1pt in the early game is a big deal, but if you can't find animals and your strategy relies on animals, it's probably worth spending that 1pt on Animal Tracker. Save yourself the time and frustration.

Interesting point, I have not used Animal tracker since alpha 18 or 19 I think. believe it was only useful for tracking animals you saw, may look into that thanking you

Gak now I remember why I stopped using it, every time you are crouched which Iam often in a stealth build I am told nothing in range. Annoying after a while.

[Zenlin]

Originally posted by Czernobog:

Originally posted by Zenlin:

I have over 2500 hours in game so know something about it.
Archery with primitive bow. Hit box seems to be to the left of centre mass, particularly at a distance.
I don't like Navzgane so always play a pregen. I suspect the RNG is at issue. Took 3 different goes playing the same pregen before I saw a rabbit or chicken. No rabbits or chickens since day 2 (now on day 6). Am going on cans but limited amount. Am electing to reset every second day by starvation. Fortunately found a muddy ditch so drinking murky water as required. Very little murky water found otherwise, toilets are mostly paper. Normal issues finding a pot for the campfire.
You can eat raw food but doesn't get you far unless you come across a lot of eggs, they are good for 5 points and no dysentry.
Oh, this is also the 1st time in 2500 hours that I have been getting the dysentery bug lol.
Suspect electing to die will get old. Will keep my eye on the chats to see if the numbers of rabbits and chickens improve before I spend any more money on the game.

Take out your bow and ready an arrow. See the crosshair in the middle? The cone is pretty big. Now walk around: the cone will get slightly bigger. Now hold right click and zoom. The cone will get much smaller. If you're using a bow, you need to stand still for a second and zoom for the best accuracy.

Look through your skills, and put a point into animal tracking. Now you'll locate any nearby rabbit/chicken when crouching.

I highly doubt you have 2500 hours if you're being defeated by very basic issues.

Lol, left the 8k pregen and loaded a 10k pregen--not as bad but still a bit left. gave up on animal tracker as it was annoying back in alpha 18. But thanks for your kind advice.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Zenlin:

Originally posted by Zenlin:

Interesting point, I have not used Animal tracker since alpha 18 or 19 I think. believe it was only useful for tracking animals you saw, may look into that thanking you

Gak now I remember why I stopped using it, every time you are crouched which Iam often in a stealth build I am told nothing in range. Annoying after a while.

Yeah, that ruins it. Over and over, "nothing in range", "nothing in range"....

Its even worse when you are in a POI and something does pop up, now you have that on your compass clogging up the UI when you are trying to find those sleepers.

There really needs to be a toggle or separate action for tracking, rather than just always tracking when crouching.