Are traders even worth it?

[Neverwinter]

i understand they needed a nurf but from what ive played its just not worth it anymore, i finished a t3 and was rewarded with 2 bits of grilled meat. what do you guys think?

[delerium76]

You should get enough credits from a tier 3 to buy a book or something. It's not that bad. Sometimes the reward sucks, but most of the time I get something decent, especially when it offers those crafting bundles with 6 books in them.

[Antearz]

Originally posted by Neverwinter:

i understand they needed a nurf but from what ive played its just not worth it anymore, i finished a t3 and was rewarded with 2 bits of grilled meat. what do you guys think?

Yes they are.
However its Different from Before.

In A21 the Main Reason for the Trader being OP was the Rewards he gave.
Because You would Quickly get High Tier High Quality Weapons and Equipment from the Rewards.
Meanwhile what You could Buy was Generally not really worth it. I often Smelted the Dukes because You got massive amounts of Dukes and it was an easy way to get Brass.

In 1.0 this is Different. The Rewards have been Nerfed alot. Now the Reward is Generally more of a Small Bonus. The Dukes Reward has also been Nerfed Significantly. So You get far less Dukes than before.
But now if You level up with the Trader. The Trader will have Higher Tier Items and sometimes even good Equipment. But most of all You can Buy General Crafting Items and Books there.

[Gaping Bacon Hole]

Upgrading "The Daring Adventurer" skill in the Intellect skill tree will potentially give better rewards, but will also give extra rewards for completion of missions. And from my experience even some T1 rewards were pretty decent, like schematics/recipes for a weapon mod, or 2 copies of a book. Lastly, unless you're able to craft a workbench and make a bicycle quickly (which now seems improbable), doing several quests for a trader will land you a bicycle as a reward. To me that's well worth doing quests. Plus, you can double loot POIs...once before a quest is activated, and once during/after a quest is activated on that specific POI. There many ways to win.

[Xandor]

I think I got somewhere between 4-8k money of one of the hardest ones I done so far. I think it was a tier 5 in wasteland, most likely a infested one (I had a lot of fights with 3 radiated + several ferals in the same fight).

But you can do multiple quests in a day, you get some bonus item from the quest and a decent chunk of cash. Usually you can do quests that are 150-400m away although some are 800+ meter away which is painful to travel.

You also get significant bonuses from getting to next quest tier. (bike, boxes with a few things, multiple legendary parts etc)

Worth doing but you could rush between houses to loot multiple houses faster without traveling to trader, would be equally worth it I think.

Loot mailboxes before starting quest to respawn them, loot book stores before starting quest since it gives a lot of magazines. You can also respawn cars with quests so good if you salvage them and I assume if you take the perk to be able to pick up landmines then forts could be amazing since they have so many landmines around them.

Quests are really good but the item reward after completing one is really minor (although a box of books = 6 books worth 300 each = 1800 value if you would buy those books)

[Mithrandir]

In my experience, they're definitely worth it. I play survival and at day 18, they're still my main source of ammo. Also, the bike reward is game changing. Great source of mags too.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Neverwinter:

i understand they needed a nurf but from what ive played its just not worth it anymore, i finished a t3 and was rewarded with 2 bits of grilled meat. what do you guys think?

I think you aren't mentioning the other options. You also aren't factoring in the money you received in payment, the increase in reputation with the trader, or the fact that the quest may have reset the POI filling it completely with loot again.

Go ahead and refrain from doing quests if you don't think them worth it. Lots of people do traderless playthroughs so it's definitely possible but it is also viewed as a type of challenge since doing the quests are, in fact, still worth it.

[Gizmat]

They're the least painstaking way for me to buy my groceries in the early game so, yeah they're still super worth it.

Not as powerful as before yes, but their utility in giving you a bunch of random stuff, exp from quests, and being able to sell useful gear once they leveled up beats out how hard the devs nerfed them.

[MiSFiT77]

I've always looked on Trader quests as a double (triple) edged thing.
Firstly it gives you an excuse to go clear a building, get exp, and loot some stuff
Then trader gives you a bit of money and possibly a nice prize
Then you can sell some of the cool stuff and spend the money, plus the money the trader just gave you on more cool stuff.
The problem I always encounter is that after a while, the trader doesn't really have anything I need, since I already bought all his ammo and gunpowder.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by MiSFiT77:

I've always looked on Trader quests as a double (triple) edged thing.
Firstly it gives you an excuse to go clear a building, get exp, and loot some stuff
Then trader gives you a bit of money and possibly a nice prize
Then you can sell some of the cool stuff and spend the money, plus the money the trader just gave you on more cool stuff.
The problem I always encounter is that after a while, the trader doesn't really have anything I need, since I already bought all his ammo and gunpowder.

Infestation missions is very rewarding in regard of ammo. I find the only ammo I make myself is 7.62 AP, Contact Grenades and molotovs. Haven't really bought much from traders this run, except bought frame and handlebars from Bob for a Motorcycle.

[comet_65cali]

Traders are worth it for infestations. I even failed a tier 6 in the desert at about level 80, went back and redo the end-room. Got a Tier-6 SMG (could already make them, but not using up resources was nice.)

I mostly use them for mods I can't craft, skill mags/books/schematics I need or don't have, and then just get basic resources like gas, glue, ductape, ammo crafting supplies, and cement, maybe some canned food from Rekt.

Honestly the traders should have more schematics, normally the only ones they carry are just for the drone.

[onanonehand8]

I think traders are a tool to affect play. I use what is available. I pay little heed to the game is too...

[BanDHMO]

Interesting to see this take. I skipped the last version and now feel like traders are borderline OP in 1.0.

Maybe it's the Daring Adventurer I invested in, but traders are by far the best source of higher-end equipment than I can make myself. The two tricks:

I build my base right by the trader. This makes the extra trip to sell loot and collect rewards easy.

I travel to other traders for purchases. The original one has just junk usually, but even going to Jen after the first "trade routes" quest gives a chance for some good stuff.

[Crasharr]

Personally I do feel the trader has been hit very hard with the nerfbat. Sure it still has a use but I started off speccing hard into daring adventurer but after a few missions at max level i dropped it completely. The trader still has its uses but its no longer the only way to play the game, you're better off cheesing top tier POI's for the reward chests doing the nerd pole thingy and do some lower trader missions to fill in the gaps. Mining is still the way to go for exp and some decent cash for me.

[God Bless The Dead]

Yeah they are worth it lol... Just for the infested quests alone, I have not made a single bullet in years, as I have chests full from doing only infested quests and all the tokens I will ever need to buy what else I need, but I only really want bullets.

[GraveRob]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Neverwinter:

i understand they needed a nurf but from what ive played its just not worth it anymore, i finished a t3 and was rewarded with 2 bits of grilled meat. what do you guys think?

I think you aren't mentioning the other options. You also aren't factoring in the money you received in payment, the increase in reputation with the trader, or the fact that the quest may have reset the POI filling it completely with loot again.

Go ahead and refrain from doing quests if you don't think them worth it. Lots of people do traderless playthroughs so it's definitely possible but it is also viewed as a type of challenge since doing the quests are, in fact, still worth it.

lmao good to see the gatekeeping mods still having the " No, youre wrong about your opinion" attitude.