I don't like the new armor system.

[Crashtian]

Hello, good day, my name is Crashtian and I will be your negative poster today. Good times, anyways...

I don't really like the new armor system. It's in no way that the armor is bad, or that the stats make the game unbalanced or ruins builds... like the system functions fine. (Maybe a little balance tweaking)

But "having" to keep a bunch of different outfits, for different tasks is not really a mechanic I have any interest in engaging in.

And I'm not saying the old system was really any better. You were still basically railroaded into a small set of armors.

But having to either carry an entire additiomal set of clothing (or two depending on how far you may be going from home) or having to to back and change between tasks so you don't miss out on bonuses that, over time have incredible value, is just more filler busy work.

[Tahnval]

Originally posted by Crashtian:

[..] But "having" to keep a bunch of different outfits, for different tasks is not really a mechanic I have any interest in engaging in. [..] just more filler busy work.

That's it in a nutshell.

Maybe it would be OK if there was a simple swap mechanic. For some things, anyway. Farming, maybe. Maybe the wardrobe mentioned in plans somewhere. Quick swap from normal set to farming set.

If we're going down the fantasy RPG route of enchanted armour (which we are in A22/1.0), I'd prefer to be able to choose which enchantments to apply to which armour.

[mathaniel]

I still use Padded armor for my armor lol. I am a champion of this game w oh what 11k hours and as many years almost? But the new armor doesn`t interest me. Too much of a hassle to swap this and change that lol. So, as I have done for ages, I use padded armor up to 6 and max out mods in it. It actually offers a lot of "stuff". Now way on up into very high BM hordes, it isn`t very good for fisticuffs lol. And I have always preferred hands on rather than be in a fortress/base with all kinds of stuff doing my killing for me jmo. jmo

[DarkFaceGlow]

I just where the set that makes food decrease slower. End of story. The best armor is not getting hit!

[Pain Weasel]

After playing a bit more I have to say that I don't really like the outfit system either.

Since outfits are the only clothes/armor we pretty much have to use them, but their bonuses are too good. They are absurdly good once you reach Q6.

In my last game I decided to give them a thorough testing just to see how they worked out in actual game play, so I put points into the armor skills early on, both medium and heavy since the loot bonuses stack. By Day 14 I had maxed out armor crafting and workshops and started crafting Q6 outfits just in time for the second Blood Moon.

Every single aspect of the game got faster and easier after that, so much so it sort of ruined that play through. Yeah, I was swapping armor but only certain pieces. I didn't care about the set bonuses. Plus the increased storage in vehicles means I could carry an entire wardrobe with me with no issues.

I gathered more materials in less time, I got more XP for almost everything I did (it seems bugged for upgrading blocks), I could buy anything for far below its base price, I needed fewer magazines and I did far more damage. Essentially I spent far less time on the survival aspects of the game, and all that was left to do was run quests which I did faster because I was doing so much more damage.

All of that meant I leveled up faster, which means I spent more skill points and just about every point I spent increased the drop rate of some other magazine. Maxing out crafting in less time meant I got T3 weapons in almost no time at all. I went from using a Q1 .44 Magnum to a Q6 Desert Vulture in 2 days thanks to a visit to Crack A Book, a loop through a few cities to loot mailboxes & the Nerd chest armor.

I'm on Day 22 right now and so far I've maxed out every single crafting skill I am actually using. I've maxed out workshops, armor, pistols, vehicles, electronics, traps, cooking, salvage tools, repair tools and probably a few others I am forgetting. All thanks to the outfits.

Anyway, I'm thinking of modding the outfits to reduce their bonuses and starting a new game since I ruined this one with too much of a good thing.

[Helios]

Where are the glasses, the caps, the jeans etc?

I hate this new system because of that...

[Tsuru]

Man having to buy clothes for winter when i have perfectly functional shorts and tshirts, that a terrible IRL system

[GodsFavoriteAnt]

Armor type should define the protection given
Clothing should be how we customize armor to look
Mods should control the bonuses derived from our armor
Assign the set bonuses to the mods

This is a simple system that would open up customization and let us look and perform how we want to.

[Malakoff]

The Funpimps seem to struggle greatly with making game design choices. Are we making character classes via what points we assign in the perk system? Or are we making character classes via the armor we wear? Or are we making character classes via the weapons/tools we find?

This game is all over the place and they can't seem to make up their minds.

[RedVomit]

It's a comment on the state of gaming today that people feel they HAVE TO keep a suit of every armor for X activity.

Just choose what you your toon would wear and deal with the consequences........ This is the same same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that ruined D&D tabletop, this meta only attitude.... Don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard minmaxxer but I still want to be reasonable. I was actually sad when they changed the system to general weather protection vs, "hey you live in the desert, take that puffer off you dummy"

[Ares25D]

I just wear what ever outfit gives me the best combat bonuses for my build and ignore everything else

[RedVomit]

Originally posted by Ares25D:

I just wear what ever outfit gives me the best combat bonuses for my build and ignore everything else

This. Just be your character. I've thrown out books before because I don't feel like my buffoon knows about machine guns, even though you GeT xP fRoM BooKs

[cnote261]

Every one of my characters has a maxed-out, cigar-modded barter hat in their motorcycle. That's the extent of my willingness to bother with crafting any armor beyond what I wear for fighting zombies.

I was super happy to scrounge around in my armor box and put together a miner outfit last night, though. I had every last skill point in Fortitude, and I really needed some iron to smelt into steel, so the armor saved me from en eternal hell of slowly tink-tinking my way to several thousand steel using a stone axe.

So I like the flexibility of the new armor system, but I don't really engage with it much.

[thestile]

Originally posted by cnote261:

Every one of my characters has a maxed-out, cigar-modded barter hat in their motorcycle. That's the extent of my willingness to bother with crafting any armor beyond what I wear for fighting zombies.

I was super happy to scrounge around in my armor box and put together a miner outfit last night, though. I had every last skill point in Fortitude, and I really needed some iron to smelt into steel, so the armor saved me from en eternal hell of slowly tink-tinking my way to several thousand steel using a stone axe.

So I like the flexibility of the new armor system, but I don't really engage with it much.

Yeah, it's definitely worth swapping for something like the barter hat one with the cigar because that's a huge boost to trade👍

Also, mining and farming gear is pretty worth it. I keep farm gear in a box next to my farm so I can swap at harvest time

[MayaTKOTC]

Originally posted by SHIENHAUSSER:

Originally posted by Ares25D:

I just wear what ever outfit gives me the best combat bonuses for my build and ignore everything else

This. Just be your character. I've thrown out books before because I don't feel like my buffoon knows about machine guns, even though you GeT xP fRoM BooKs

i take all of them. make three of everything for the trader with maxed out barter. non-violent leveling. let my wood spike trap pits kill the horde and replace them as needed from my tree farm.

[Lady MacBeth]

I mean so far I see no need to wear a full set. Its kinda like in Monster Hunter a mixed set seems best. So far I have settled in on Preacher Gloves and Chest as probably best in their slots. Especially those gloves so much free damage. The other slots (head and feet) don't seem all that impressive. So I've not any particular feelings one way or the other for them.