So, check your map for traders before you get too far.

[seven]

I started a game and just picked the first pregen in the list, Pregen04kA. Finished up through tier 3 quests and still no opening trade route to Bob. Well, there's no Bob. I figured I'd be safe playing one of the maps they include with the download, but no.

[Underscorecow]

Thats kind of funny. Im wondering what went wrong, were the pregen maps generated using an older version of the map generator and never updated?

[Ogami]

Did you go to the right trader for the next trading route quest?
They are now in order, meaning, Rekt in the forest will give you the trade route quest that leads to Jen in the Burned Forest, Jen will give you the trade route quest that leads to Bob in the desert and so on.
If you go to the wrong trader thats not meant to give you the next trade route quest it wont show up in the options even if you filled up the points for the current quest tier.

[seven]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Did you go to the right trader for the next trading route quest?
They are now in order, meaning, Rekt in the forest will give you the trade route quest that leads to Jen in the Burned Forest, Jen will give you the trade route quest that leads to Bob in the desert and so on.
If you go to the wrong trader thats not meant to give you the next trade route quest it wont show up in the options.

There are no Bobs on the map. Open prefabs.xml in the Pregen04kA world folder and you'll find no "trader_bob".

If I wasn't so annoyed I'd check all the other premade worlds. If they are going to force a specific progression on the player, it seems like their world generation should check to see that all the traders are represented.

[Mithrandir]

Originally posted by seven:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Did you go to the right trader for the next trading route quest?
They are now in order, meaning, Rekt in the forest will give you the trade route quest that leads to Jen in the Burned Forest, Jen will give you the trade route quest that leads to Bob in the desert and so on.
If you go to the wrong trader thats not meant to give you the next trade route quest it wont show up in the options.

There are no Bobs on the map. Open prefabs.xml in the Pregen04kA world folder and you'll find no "trader_bob".

If I wasn't so annoyed I'd check all the other premade worlds. If they are going to force a specific progression on the player, it seems like their world generation should check to see that all the traders are represented.

Agreed. If there's no Bob, it looks like a pregen they should fix before V1.0 stable.

[Ogami]

Honestly the pregen maps are pretty useless now when creating a custom map only takes like 30 seconds. I would just keep Navezgane and then selfmade maps.

[seven]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Honestly the pregen maps are pretty useless now when creating a custom map only takes like 30 seconds. I would just keep Navezgane and then selfmade maps.

Whether the pregen maps are useless is beside the point. Those pregens are just RWG maps that tfp included. If they can have missing traders then your "selfmade maps" could be lacking as well.

I checked all the pregen maps. Only 2 are broken, but it's a broken that should not occur if they have any sanity checks in their RWG.

Pregen04kA is missing Trader Bob.

Pregen04kD is missing Trader Joel.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by seven:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Honestly the pregen maps are pretty useless now when creating a custom map only takes like 30 seconds. I would just keep Navezgane and then selfmade maps.

Whether the pregen maps are useless is beside the point. Those pregens are just RWG maps that tfp included. If they can have missing traders then your "selfmade maps" could be lacking as well.

I checked all the pregen maps. Only 2 are broken, but it's a broken that should not occur if they have any sanity checks in their RWG.

Pregen04kA is missing Trader Bob.

Pregen04kD is missing Trader Joel.

4k maps struggle with generation a bit. It's a known issue; Recommend 6k+ at this time.

And at the end of the day, It's not like it breaks the game, at least atm.. It just means you gotta go *gasp* explore a bit. If there's no bob, then explore till you find the trader that comes after bob. You know what biome they're in.

[RSRanger76]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by seven:

Whether the pregen maps are useless is beside the point. Those pregens are just RWG maps that tfp included. If they can have missing traders then your "selfmade maps" could be lacking as well.

I checked all the pregen maps. Only 2 are broken, but it's a broken that should not occur if they have any sanity checks in their RWG.

Pregen04kA is missing Trader Bob.

Pregen04kD is missing Trader Joel.

4k maps struggle with generation a bit. It's a known issue; Recommend 6k+ at this time.

And at the end of the day, It's not like it breaks the game, at least atm.. It just means you gotta go *gasp* explore a bit. :winter2019happyyul: If there's no bob, then explore till you find the trader that comes after bob. You know what biome they're in.

It kinda does break the game a bit. It prevents me from completing the new trader challenge side quest. I'd consider that broken. The big question is. can they fix this without me having to restart my world and losing all my progress?

[Helios]

Originally posted by RSRanger76:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

4k maps struggle with generation a bit. It's a known issue; Recommend 6k+ at this time.

And at the end of the day, It's not like it breaks the game, at least atm.. It just means you gotta go *gasp* explore a bit. :winter2019happyyul: If there's no bob, then explore till you find the trader that comes after bob. You know what biome they're in.

It kinda does break the game a bit. It prevents me from completing the new trader challenge side quest. I'd consider that broken. The big question is. can they fix this without me having to restart my world and losing all my progress?

Try to replace rekt with bob in that list maybe?

[Prince Persona]

You should be able to Spawn a Trader using Debug Mode.
F1 (to enter console)
Type: dm (to enter debug mode)
Press F6 (to enter Spawn Menu)
Select Trader you are missing from the menu.
Not sure if it was changed but this worked in the past.

[seven]

Originally posted by RSRanger76:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

4k maps struggle with generation a bit. It's a known issue; Recommend 6k+ at this time.

And at the end of the day, It's not like it breaks the game, at least atm.. It just means you gotta go *gasp* explore a bit. :winter2019happyyul: If there's no bob, then explore till you find the trader that comes after bob. You know what biome they're in.

It kinda does break the game a bit. It prevents me from completing the new trader challenge side quest. I'd consider that broken. The big question is. can they fix this without me having to restart my world and losing all my progress?

I agree. No, it doesn't render the save unplayable, but it does break the intended gameplay. And new players, which I'm sure "1.0" has brought in, are not going to easily know what to do. And what if that missing trader was Rekt? Or worse, Jen, and the only trader experience they have is Rekt?

Perhaps coding for successfully including all the traders on 4K is difficult, but checking for a failure condition is not.

What I really hope tfp will do is add a new settng to RWG. An option where you can toggle between "Story Mode" with their on rails progression, and a "Sandbox" option that brings back the random to RWG.

[RSRanger76]

Originally posted by Helios:

Originally posted by RSRanger76:

It kinda does break the game a bit. It prevents me from completing the new trader challenge side quest. I'd consider that broken. The big question is. can they fix this without me having to restart my world and losing all my progress?

Try to replace rekt with bob in that list maybe?

The map gave me 2 trader Hughs so I would need to replace one of those I think

[seven]

Originally posted by RSRanger76:

Originally posted by Helios:

Try to replace rekt with bob in that list maybe?

The map gave me 2 trader Hughs so I would need to replace one of those I think

That might work. If I get around to it that's what I'll try. Easiest would be to edit prefabs.xml in the world folder and change one of those trader_hugh to trader_bob. Best would be one in an area you haven't been to yet.

What Prince Persona suggested will work for the Meet trader bob challenge, but the spawned trader will not persist so can't use him for missions etc.

[seven]

Originally posted by seven:

Originally posted by RSRanger76:

The map gave me 2 trader Hughs so I would need to replace one of those I think

That might work. If I get around to it that's what I'll try. Easiest would be to edit prefabs.xml in the world folder and change one of those trader_hugh to trader_bob. Best would be one in an area you haven't been to yet.

What Prince Persona suggested will work for the Meet trader bob challenge, but the spawned trader will not persist so can't use him for missions etc.

So, that worked. I edited prefabs.xml and changed one of the trader_hughs to trader_bob. I went back to Jen and now she had an opening trade route mission for me. Went to Bob (formerly known as Hugh) and got the Meet trader Bob completion message. So, that is a way to fix it.

[KhanWolf95]

Originally posted by seven:

I started a game and just picked the first pregen in the list, Pregen04kA. Finished up through tier 3 quests and still no opening trade route to Bob. Well, there's no Bob. I figured I'd be safe playing one of the maps they include with the download, but no.

Same ♥♥♥♥ happened to me, no Bob or even Joel on my 4k world random gen. Great logic Fun Pimps, couldnt even code it right to require a bare minimum of 1 of each trader for biomes. I get 3 Trader Rekts out of my 5 on the map lmao.