7 Days to Die

7 Days to Die

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Twisted Traveller 2024년 5월 6일 오전 9시 46분
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$44.99 is way too much for this. Even in a 1.0 state.
I've been playing and supporting 7D2D since it's release year, having got many friends to buy it in this ""Alpha"" stage and even running small community servers for it more than once. I have to note I have never felt comfortable buying 7d2d at full price, like 3 out of the 20~ people I've played this with have bought it at full price. I, or them, have always found the $7 keys you can find online.

I do not in anyway agree that this game is worth $44.99. For reference, Project Zomboid is $20, Resident Evil 4 (The newest one) is $40 (And all the other REs are less), Helldivers 2 is also $40. This is simply placing 7d2d into a bracket it cannot compete in with how janky, dated and unfinished this game has always been. The trailer even shows stuttering/FPS issues, the animations look really dated and that goes for the graphics, everything this game has going on is at a point where it was relatively impressive 7 years ago, now it's unfortunately a relic comparatively.

I do understand tons of people keep coming in here going "WELL I'VE PLAYED THIS GAME FOR YEARS AND SO HAVE YOU! IT'S WELL WORTH $45!!!" and I simply retort with this, I am looking at this as if I was a new customer coming to the store page and seeing this game, most casual people playing video games will play them based on how the trailers look, how the graphics are and so on. If I had just watched the Resident Evil 4 trailer than saw this in the same price bracket I wouldn't be spending $45 on this, nor would 99% of people which severely kills this game's potential of growth. I would look at this game then look at Project Zomboid where I can buy 4 copies of the game for the same price to play with friends and immediately end up going to PZ despite it being "Less complex" simply because it also has much wider coverage and a less janky look to it all.

This game is firmly setting itself out of the "Indie going it alone" bracket and "Double/Triple A product" bracket which is an extremely dangerous thing to do. This is also a game which for the past 5-6 patches has constantly changed out the entire foundation of it's game to change the fundamental game mechanics because the community cannot decide on what it prefers in terms of progression and neither can the devs. Maybe that'll all change in the 1.0+ patch and subsequent ones, but I personally don't feel it will.

It's a real shame. I do want this game to succeed but it feels the team at TFP have been deeply out of touch for a long time and this shows it.
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Agenda 2025 2024년 9월 16일 오후 11시 04분 
Yes, this game is awesome. I would pay for the Joke Mod that is free that merges old 7 Days to Die with new...and throws in absolutely crazy. I rode a chicken today.:steamhappy:
dredre99877 2024년 9월 17일 오전 12시 11분 
LOL player count dropping by the day, also about to drop out of top 300 in sales, at 257. It is amazing what hype does for a game
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James 2024년 9월 17일 오전 12시 37분 
These TFP bots are getting out of hand. 😉 I'm kidding ofcourse lol.

In all seriousness though, I agree. It is worth 45 IMO. Lucky for me, I don't have to pay 45 since I've already bought the game ~10 times at 10 dollars or less every time over the course of x amount of years, and I don't own a console and so I have no interest in that.

But in an alternate universe where I had just discovered this game today and had to pay 45 for it, then I would be happy with my purchase. And this is coming from a cheap SOB who will almost exclusively wait to buy games until they're on sale at 25% or more and will almost never pay more than 25 dollars for ANY game, no matter how long I have to wait.

Sure, there are a lot of things about the game (direction and decision wise) that I don't necessarily agree with, but the positives still outweigh the negatives by a pretty large margin IMO and the 4k+ hours I have put into this game (not counting offline and mod creation time) is a testament to this.

The only other games I've put more time into than this one is; Maybe the entire Sims series as a whole (been playing since S1). Battlefield series (since BF2). Elder scrolls series (since Oblivion). And fallout 4 (5k hours not including offline + modding).
Mithrandir 2024년 9월 17일 오전 2시 20분 
So true that the positives outweigh the negatives by a nice margin.

And for the hours I've played this, that price is the best "low cost per hour of play" deal I've seen in decades.
wampa 2024년 9월 17일 오전 2시 35분 
This game make me think of minecraft, kinda same spirit.

When you look the first minecraft and the price of it, and what you can do in minecraft now and the price of it, i hope they will do kinda the same

( i don't talk about the part where they rob children with modder work, hello microsoft so you like slave and children eh? i know the worlds is like that, the illusion of society and humanity is like that, kill all the rats dancing on the boat, want to be true captain of the styx when will drown alone in the abyss)

edit: typo typo, who doesn't love typo?
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onanonehand8 2024년 9월 17일 오전 2시 59분 
In the last decade, I have absolutely loved two or three games. But after a thousand hours, I no longer play them, they are still on my desk top, but I always pass them up.

I don't absolutely love this game, but I sure like it. And after more than 3000 hours I still play it almost daily, all in vanilla.
Kara 2024년 9월 17일 오전 3시 28분 
Ummmm then a LOT of good games by honest devs are really underselling themselves!

This game can be worth 45 dollars when there is a storyline like they promised, and maybe just maybe they finish up making the plants 3D.....come on guys...Oh and uh maybe replace that car model that has been their since 2013. All they did was polish a little bit, spend way too much on voice acting, and jack up the price. This is an EA game being milked. Let's not pretend otherwise ok? lol...
Kara 2024년 9월 17일 오전 3시 30분 
Macdallan님이 먼저 게시:
✅PreX' Stylez님이 먼저 게시:
omg i just noticed the price increase

What you noticed isn't a price increase, it was the removal of the early access discount.
Pure cope.
onanonehand8 2024년 9월 17일 오전 3시 59분 
Kara님이 먼저 게시:
Ummmm then a LOT of good games by honest devs are really underselling themselves!

This game can be worth 45 dollars when there is a storyline like they promised, and maybe just maybe they finish up making the plants 3D.....come on guys...Oh and uh maybe replace that car model that has been their since 2013. All they did was polish a little bit, spend way too much on voice acting, and jack up the price. This is an EA game being milked. Let's not pretend otherwise ok? lol...
I still have my 2006 BMW, and I love it. It is one of the best cars I have owned.

I agree the story (hopefully) will make the game better.
onanonehand8 2024년 9월 17일 오전 4시 01분 
Kara님이 먼저 게시:
Macdallan님이 먼저 게시:

What you noticed isn't a price increase, it was the removal of the early access discount.
Pure cope.
My thought:

Joke
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GinsengSamurai 2024년 9월 17일 오전 4시 36분 
Worth is subjective.

Is 7 Days To Die worth $45? If you're frugal, see next to no value in gaming, tight on money, and/or is ridiculously critical on what you deem is worthy on the penny versus content created, then 7 Days To Die might not be worth it. For others, $45 is 'whatever'.

There's a saying my uncle likes to say, "You're meant to spend what you make, and you can always make more money."

7DTD is a game I pass time with playing with friends. For $45, after over 900 hours, that's money well spent. If it wasn't worth it, surely, people wouldn't even consider buying it right? People do have a choice right? It's not like they come onto Steam and are somehow forced to buy any game they don't want right?

So I don't understand why some people are so critical about what the publisher decided how to price their own game. Don't like the $45 price tag? Then get it on sale. Believe TFP didn't do enough for the game? Then don't buy the game. Of course, I mean, if you've played an Early Access title for hundreds to thousands of hours and paid $7-$10 for it, but to this day, you're still complaining about its value, I really just have to shake my head at that. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
Manos cálidas 2024년 9월 17일 오전 5시 27분 
CrunchyDaz님이 먼저 게시:
I would think that a game that holds someones attention for 10 years would be worth $44.
Not to a newcomer it's not.
mathaniel 2024년 9월 17일 오후 11시 06분 
How can you speak for newcomers? People try to speak for other people and champion a cause they, think has issues for "newcomers" who they don`t even know. How? More importantly, why? If I was a newcomer and read this I would respond riki tik, "don`t speak for me", you don`t know me, butt out" lol. just sayin. I hate people trying to speak for me or include me in their asinine comments. See how many hours I have in this game, without my modded play hours and I could say "heck yeah it`s worth it for any gamer". But I don`t try to assume I can speak for others. If it`s your friends let them play on your server. You obviously own the game and have had many "free content hours. Could be wrong, usually am:-)
dredre99877 2024년 9월 17일 오후 11시 30분 
mathaniel님이 먼저 게시:
How can you speak for newcomers? People try to speak for other people and champion a cause they, think has issues for "newcomers" who they don`t even know. How? More importantly, why? If I was a newcomer and read this I would respond riki tik, "don`t speak for me", you don`t know me, butt out" lol. just sayin. I hate people trying to speak for me or include me in their asinine comments. See how many hours I have in this game, without my modded play hours and I could say "heck yeah it`s worth it for any gamer". But I don`t try to assume I can speak for others. If it`s your friends let them play on your server. You obviously own the game and have had many "free content hours. Could be wrong, usually am:-)

https://youtube.com/shorts/ypwvPenI0qU?si=C7an3GtRvPg-dH50


Amount of time does not mean amount of enjoyment, and never will.
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James 2024년 9월 17일 오후 11시 47분 
dredre99877님이 먼저 게시:
https://youtube.com/shorts/ypwvPenI0qU?si=C7an3GtRvPg-dH50


Amount of time does not mean amount of enjoyment, and never will.
I hate that people like you rely so much on tiktok and youtube shorts for information these days with no context behind it whatsoever.
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