Dedicated server Performance is way better

[The Double-G_Wiggler]

Just opened a dedicated server for my Singleplayer experience and im shocked how much better the game perform now. Even in towns i get almost everytime 60fps at least.
Im on ryzen 3900x, 32GB RAM, 4070ti

[SylenThunder]

It can work. IF you have the hardware to support it. Which you do.
Basically, you are splitting the main processing workload between two cores instead of one.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

well duh thats the whole point of a dedicated server XD

[Combat Manuel]

Game runs so bad even in little bases or towns with all sorts of optimization inside and outside of the game + confic i had to stop a couple years ago (at the point almost best hardware you can get ryzen 5900x and 3080). Even these days everyone just playing all low. Really hope their "optimizations" for release do the job. And tbh 60 fps is absolute playable bottomline, shutters, bad frame times etc in this game will make even 60 fps unplayable.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Combat Manuel:

Game runs so bad even in little bases or towns with all sorts of optimization inside and outside of the game + confic i had to stop a couple years ago (at the point almost best hardware you can get ryzen 5900x and 3080). Even these days everyone just playing all low. Really hope their "optimizations" for release do the job. And tbh 60 fps is absolute playable bottomline, shutters, bad frame times etc in this game will make even 60 fps unplayable.

remember the best joke aswell they wanna full release the game out of alpha soon

[Combat Manuel]

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

Originally posted by Combat Manuel:

Game runs so bad even in little bases or towns with all sorts of optimization inside and outside of the game + confic i had to stop a couple years ago (at the point almost best hardware you can get ryzen 5900x and 3080). Even these days everyone just playing all low. Really hope their "optimizations" for release do the job. And tbh 60 fps is absolute playable bottomline, shutters, bad frame times etc in this game will make even 60 fps unplayable.

remember the best joke aswell they wanna full release the game out of alpha soon

Yeah we all had to stop playing, my friends and i, perfromance was just beyond worse. I got 1000 h but today i really wonder how ppl endure this game running so extremly poor.

[ElDudorino]

You have 1000 hours in the game and wonder how people endure it? Uhh...

Anyway, i don't know about the 5900x specifically but AMD processors tend to have kinda poor per-core performance, which is why they sold the younguns the lie that core count is everything. So if you're having issues I would assume it's due to that.

Personally I haven't noticed performance issues in 7DtD except for one occasion where I was raiding a Higashi across the street from a Dishong and about halfway up the tower the FPS suddenly dropped to single digits seemingly out of nowhere, then picked back up a minute later. This was on a 9700k with a GTX 1070.

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by The Double-G_Wiggler:

Just opened a dedicated server for my Singleplayer experience and im shocked how much better the game perform now. Even in towns i get almost everytime 60fps at least.
Im on ryzen 3900x, 32GB RAM, 4070ti

So to make sure I'm understanding, you're running the dedicated server on the same system you're playing on and performance is better than if you played the game in SP mode normally?

Never would have occurred to me but that's pretty cool. So I guess if you're doing actual multiplayer it's pretty much always better to run a dedicated server and connect to it even if you don't have a dedicated machine.

[Trooper Bri]

It's amazing how many people these days don't know how to, or don't spend time optimizing their rigs. Game players versus real gamers I guess.

I'm not even migrating 7D2D to my new PC. It never dips below 40fps on this aging 17-8700 w/16GB RAM, and a lowly 2080 TI card.

Complaining doesn't fix frames, gamers do.

[Real Mofo]

Originally posted by Trooper Bri:

It's amazing how many people these days don't know how to, or don't spend time optimizing their rigs. Game players versus real gamers I guess.

I'm not even migrating 7D2D to my new PC. It never dips below 40fps on this aging 17-8700 w/16GB RAM, and a lowly 2080 TI card.

Complaining doesn't fix frames, gamers do.

I second that.... ;)

[Combat Manuel]

Originally posted by ElDudorino:

You have 1000 hours in the game and wonder how people endure it? Uhh...

Anyway, i don't know about the 5900x specifically but AMD processors tend to have kinda poor per-core performance, which is why they sold the younguns the lie that core count is everything. So if you're having issues I would assume it's due to that.

Personally I haven't noticed performance issues in 7DtD except for one occasion where I was raiding a Higashi across the street from a Dishong and about halfway up the tower the FPS suddenly dropped to single digits seemingly out of nowhere, then picked back up a minute later. This was on a 9700k with a GTX 1070.

Yes i do, the problem is that perfromance became worse and worse over the years, so i wonder how ppl can play that today because it became unplayable.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Trooper Bri:

It's amazing how many people these days don't know how to, or don't spend time optimizing their rigs. Game players versus real gamers I guess.

I'm not even migrating 7D2D to my new PC. It never dips below 40fps on this aging 17-8700 w/16GB RAM, and a lowly 2080 TI card.

Complaining doesn't fix frames, gamers do.

sounds like someone has 0 idea how things work XD

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by Combat Manuel:

Originally posted by ElDudorino:

You have 1000 hours in the game and wonder how people endure it? Uhh...

Anyway, i don't know about the 5900x specifically but AMD processors tend to have kinda poor per-core performance, which is why they sold the younguns the lie that core count is everything. So if you're having issues I would assume it's due to that.

Personally I haven't noticed performance issues in 7DtD except for one occasion where I was raiding a Higashi across the street from a Dishong and about halfway up the tower the FPS suddenly dropped to single digits seemingly out of nowhere, then picked back up a minute later. This was on a 9700k with a GTX 1070.

Yes i do, the problem is that perfromance became worse and worse over the years, so i wonder how ppl can play that today because it became unplayable.

The game has become more demanding over the years as it has been built up. If your hardware is not up to par, or you have software causing a problem, it will get increasingly worse.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Combat Manuel:

Yes i do, the problem is that perfromance became worse and worse over the years, so i wonder how ppl can play that today because it became unplayable.

The game has become more demanding over the years as it has been built up. If your hardware is not up to par, or you have software causing a problem, it will get increasingly worse.

oh so i guess we need super Nasa computers that nobody can pay for to run the game huh? i know a few people and probably tons of other strangers with High end systems that still have tons of issues with this game xD dont blame users systems for the poor optimization this game has like srsly the bad peformance doesnt even give you anything in exchange the textures etc arent making up for it or anything... and yet tons of people pretend as if this issue doesnt exist xD

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

The game has become more demanding over the years as it has been built up. If your hardware is not up to par, or you have software causing a problem, it will get increasingly worse.

oh so i guess we need super Nasa computers that nobody can pay for to run the game huh? i know a few people and probably tons of other strangers with High end systems that still have tons of issues with this game xD dont blame users systems for the poor optimization this game has like srsly the bad peformance doesnt even give you anything in exchange the textures etc arent making up for it or anything...

Nope, and I have shown that before. I'm not blaming users for poor optimization, and I will agree that there is a lot of optimization that needs to be done. Main reason I never enable reflections in the game in fact.

But even accounting for that, the game is perfectly playable on nearly decade-old hardware if it is properly configured and the system has been optimized to get the best performance. IF you take into account that you need to adjust the settings for the hardware configuration and features that have not yet been optimized.

The biggest issue I have seen is people thinking that just because they can get 500FPS in GTA-V, and 170FPS in CyberPunk, that they should be able to get similar results from an un-optimized game that is still being developed. So a lot of you just enable it for 4k with Ultra settings because you think you should be able to, and then you piss and moan when that doesn't work out in your favor. Never mind that you should not have expected that to work in the first place.

And do note, that all of this discussion is completely off-topic from the OP's discussion when starting this thread.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

oh so i guess we need super Nasa computers that nobody can pay for to run the game huh? i know a few people and probably tons of other strangers with High end systems that still have tons of issues with this game xD dont blame users systems for the poor optimization this game has like srsly the bad peformance doesnt even give you anything in exchange the textures etc arent making up for it or anything...

Nope, and I have shown that before. I'm not blaming users for poor optimization, and I will agree that there is a lot of optimization that needs to be done. Main reason I never enable reflections in the game in fact.

But even accounting for that, the game is perfectly playable on nearly decade-old hardware if it is properly configured and the system has been optimized to get the best performance. IF you take into account that you need to adjust the settings for the hardware configuration and features that have not yet been optimized.

The biggest issue I have seen is people thinking that just because they can get 500FPS in GTA-V, and 170FPS in CyberPunk, that they should be able to get similar results from an un-optimized game that is still being developed. So a lot of you just enable it for 4k with Ultra settings because you think you should be able to, and then you piss and moan when that doesn't work out in your favor. Never mind that you should not have expected that to work in the first place.

And do note, that all of this discussion is completely off-topic from the OP's discussion when starting this thread.

i play on 60fps capped and drop below 60 a lot even tho i should have 0 issues running this game same goes for a few others of my friends that play att 60fps-120fps capped they have lots of stuttering small freezes when etc and fps drops from 120+fps down to 40-30fps... 2 of my friends have also tried running the game at the lowest settings possible with their good systems and got the same results even at 1080p

also steam discussions will always go off-topic thats normal for steam threads and is 100% guaranteed to happen no matter what the topic is also i dont see anything off topic here the discussion is about performance and not just the fact that dedicated servers run better since the main topic is performance in this case and not just stating the info that dedicated servers exist