4th tier melee weapons instead of just 3 or even just a graphic overhaul for them.

[Will]

For Agility it can be a Katana.

Strength can get a power sledge and an actual mace: flanged, winged, morningstar etc

Perception can have a war spear, boar spear, pike of any variety, etc the kitchen knife on a stick really doesn't look or feel top tier for any sense of aesthetics or immersion

Endurance is easily the least attractive melee option in the game and kills the immersion it really makes me want to have 3rd person so i can use the awesome skills and consumable setup without having to actually see the weapon I'm using. The cork screw on it is probably the worst offender but the multiple blades don't help either. you could have done a trench knife in reverse grip ( this would let the power attack and harvest use the blade in a stab or slash or even combo between the two or even include the punches for 3 separate attack options) or a punch dagger or a T handle affixed to a set of steel knuckle dusters. anyway i just find the visual of the steel knuckles so repulsive i cant get past it enough to actually use them for long.

intelligence is already a full item behind the others and i don't really have anything stun baton wise but im sure you could find something. electric sword/dagger/mace which could potentially also benefit from a second attribute for shock and bleed/armorpen/broken as fck with 5 separate effects all scaling damage (looking at you clubs its pretty easy to see the favoritism here, its like they combined the best aspects of 3-4 perks to make the club perk)

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by Will:

For Agility it can be a Katana.
...

I have been asking for this for about eight years now, and they keep telling me "No". We did end up with a machete though.

[Will]

it really makes sense given that the final level of it is literally called samurai. they could make it a tier 6 drop only weapon or a quest reward.

[TheChoccoBiccy09]

If you don’t mind me piggy backing on your idea, I wouldn’t mind a legendary special weapon for each skill tree category, both for melee and guns.
For example, their could be a 4th tier fists weapon called the “power fist” and have a special attribute only for that weapon, like knocking zombies away, or a machine gun called the “bullet hose” where it has bottomless clip and only needs to be stocked up with lead and gunpowder.
Of course these are just examples, but any sort of special 4th tier legendary weapon would be nice.

[katsuragi]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Will:

For Agility it can be a Katana.
...

I have been asking for this for about eight years now, and they keep telling me "No". We did end up with a machete though.

If they're afraid that bullies will call them Weebs and make them cry then they could make tier 4 a Longsword instead.

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Originally posted by Will:

it really makes sense given that the final level of it is literally called samurai. they could make it a tier 6 drop only weapon or a quest reward.

Do you know how difficult it is to find a real, japanese forged Katana in USA?

I'm not saying it's impossible, mind you, but even the most dedicated and rich collectors in the USA probably only have a "cheap" knockoff of the real thing. Heck, I think nowadays it would be difficult to find a good one even in modern Japan !

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by ...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...:

Originally posted by Will:

it really makes sense given that the final level of it is literally called samurai. they could make it a tier 6 drop only weapon or a quest reward.

Do you know how difficult it is to find a real, japanese forged Katana in USA?

I'm not saying it's impossible, mind you, but even the most dedicated and rich collectors in the USA probably only have a "cheap" knockoff of the real thing. Heck, I think nowadays it would be difficult to find a good one even in modern Japan !

Why not make one out of scrap? Our character can make really high quality weapons and machines out of bunch of scrap. He/She is better than MacGyver ^^

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by ...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...:

Do you know how difficult it is to find a real, japanese forged Katana in USA?

I'm not saying it's impossible, mind you, but even the most dedicated and rich collectors in the USA probably only have a "cheap" knockoff of the real thing. Heck, I think nowadays it would be difficult to find a good one even in modern Japan !

Why not make one out of scrap? Our character can make really high quality weapons and machines out of bunch of scrap. He/She is better than MacGyver ^^

Yeah, I can alrady see it in my mind... MacGyver's Scrap Katana!

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by ...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...:

Do you know how difficult it is to find a real, japanese forged Katana in USA?

I'm not saying it's impossible, mind you, but even the most dedicated and rich collectors in the USA probably only have a "cheap" knockoff of the real thing. Heck, I think nowadays it would be difficult to find a good one even in modern Japan !

Why not make one out of scrap? Our character can make really high quality weapons and machines out of bunch of scrap. He/She is better than MacGyver ^^

Well to be honest, a true Kata is a lot more rare because of how they are made. It's blended metal that is tuned many times in the forging process. I have a blade that is around 1200 years old. It has been turned more than 300 times. Which basically means that a smithy spent a large portion of his life making this one sword. I have two others that are more recently made (only a couple of hundred years old), and you can certainly tell the difference in quality. It is considerably different than how the European sword blades are made. (I have a few of those as well.)

So I can see how from a "player can make this" mechanic that it would not really fit properly. They should be something like a very rare loot item though IMHO.

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Will:

For Agility it can be a Katana.
...

I have been asking for this for about eight years now, and they keep telling me "No". We did end up with a machete though.

They might have said no because of different moves required and they didn't want to go through another motion capture routine for it.

[WillowWisp]

As an intelligence combat main, the neglect is agony

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Why not make one out of scrap? Our character can make really high quality weapons and machines out of bunch of scrap. He/She is better than MacGyver ^^

Well to be honest, a true Kata is a lot more rare because of how they are made. It's blended metal that is tuned many times in the forging process. I have a blade that is around 1200 years old. It has been turned more than 300 times. Which basically means that a smithy spent a large portion of his life making this one sword. I have two others that are more recently made (only a couple of hundred years old), and you can certainly tell the difference in quality. It is considerably different than how the European sword blades are made. (I have a few of those as well.)

So I can see how from a "player can make this" mechanic that it would not really fit properly. They should be something like a very rare loot item though IMHO.

Lawnmower blade + some handle and misc components. Boom. Done. Scrap Katana!

Like discount Shishkebab from Fallout and this game has magic flaming weapon mod too so one could make an actual Shishkebab Sword xD

Besides crafting a makeshift katana is less nonsensical than smelting and crafting working bullets in a makeshift mud brick forge or making functional robotic turrets with working advanced IFF system out of household items and scrap.

EDIT: However finding components for said sword/scrap katana and/or the weapon itself could work as rare loot only yea.

[Dwarf_Bastard]

A Katana is a very famous weapon in games and well-known in RL. While 7dtd being slowly "modernized", it still doesn't have most of the common things in it. Katana is one of those.

The weapon thing in 7dtd is quite... not entertaining. All the weapons do ~ same damage. Relating to early-mid game. Of course, on day 1000 it will somehow change. Don't start it. Some of the weapons have different attack range and that's it. In an open world looter-shooter game, you should be able to... well, find things. People have many strange and cool things stored in their houses. A random Morningstar and a knight armor in some mansion? Why not? A mustang in some garage that you can re-modify into the zombie slashing machine or leave like it is, so it had more speed, instead of heavy metal plates on? Or just wrench it down.

The cosmetics thing that's been forced through games since forever changed the way games are made, and it will probably stay this way forever. Many players want their characters to look unique and fashionable.

I've just seen the A22 road, and i can tell there are 2 things that will probably change the game big time: beautiful characters (We all know where it's going) and the Steam Workshop(We also know where it's going) . The Workshop will make 7dtd into Skyrim. All those YT videos of how "I've made this game into something else with 999 mods", "why bother playing the vanilla", etc. From that point even less players might want to play an unmodded game. Servers will probably become a mess. (wait, there are servers?)

And here comes the question: Why for the devs to even add something into the game after adding the workshop? You want a lightsaber? Workshop. You want more zombies? Workshop. You want more vehicles? Workshop. Bandits? Workshop. You want more weapons? Workshop.

[finn_humpfer]

knifs

why a machete butt no katana

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

I've seen some violin butts, but never machete butts honestly.
Serious answer: a real Katana is not a weapon you'd commonly find in Arizona.

[⚜Смэагол⚜ #Hot24]

You can't find katana in Arizona
But there is full functioning junk drone that will fly always behind you.

Still i thought the same about having special weapon for all weapon tiers. For example Minigun in AR skill tree or a powerfull full auto cannon that shoots shotgun shells (like in Metro 2033)