can't craft cement mix by hand?

[Vorl]

So, I got the cement skill, and it says I should be able to make cement mix. I can't find it anywhere in my list.

Can we not make cement mix by hand anymore? If that's the case I think that's a really silly change.

[Kainybutt]

Forge plus the cement mixer.

[Vorl]

again, if that's the only option, that's stupid. Hell, I make it by hand, why do I "need" a cement mixer? I can see it being a nice thing later after I capped the crafting skill, and still need to make a few thousand, but right now I want to make it by hand.

I also don't have a small engine yet.

Just a stupid change IMNSHO.

[Kainybutt]

引用自 Vorl：

again, if that's the only option, that's stupid. Hell, I make it by hand, why do I "need" a cement mixer? I can see it being a nice thing later after I capped the crafting skill, and still need to make a few thousand, but right now I want to make it by hand.

I also don't have a small engine yet.

Just a stupid change IMNSHO.

Any complete car has a chance to give engine or a battery or both after the first stage . The much rarer component im my mind is the scrap cable.

[misesfan]

Scrap cable is easy-peasy from an oven using a wrench....The engine is the hard piece. And not to hijack this thread, but wtf - I cannot find the plans for a crossbow anywhere's......

[Lerch Addams]

引用自 Vorl：

again, if that's the only option, that's stupid. Hell, I make it by hand, why do I "need" a cement mixer? I can see it being a nice thing later after I capped the crafting skill, and still need to make a few thousand, but right now I want to make it by hand.

I also don't have a small engine yet.

Just a stupid change IMNSHO.

I agree that requiring a cement mixer is a little over the top.

Concrete can be mixed by hand (definately not recommended in real life!).

Both should be doable in game.

By hand should be slow, using a Mixer should dramatically speed up the process.

[GirthQQuakes]

Except this isnt quickcrete you pick up at your local home depot. This is home made concrete where you need to make the sand, add the lime, blah blah all by yourself. While it could be done by hand, its also a video game.

Sure, i could take apart a car with a knife and allot of time, but the game makes me use a wrench or other suitable tool. I accept that.

[Dragorin]

Cement Mixer isn't very fast, you are going to want more than one. Oh and now you'll also need crushed sand for making a lot of things, Cement, Stone, gravel. Desert becomes more important to find.

[GirthQQuakes]

Sand in lake beds and shores. Theres also a glitch while making sand that will give you infinite quantities. Gravel and stone come from, obviously, stone... so no, finding desert isnt important.

[Dragorin]

引用自 Theodore：

Sand in lake beds and shores. Theres also a glitch while making sand that will give you infinite quantities. Gravel and stone come from, obviously, stone... so no, finding desert isnt important.

I haven't started a RWG world yet I'm on Navs. Are lake beds and shores common now in RWG because I only found like two lakes in 3 months time in 8 different RWG worlds in A13.

If you build big bases you will want to find a desert. Sure you can make everything without finding a desert. Just grind stone down to sand. But then I've got to farm 3x the amount of stone and if you didn't notice we aren't getting as much now as we did in A13. So I'd say finding a desert will be pretty high on my to do list.

Need stone for - melting in forge for cement dust
Need stone for - mixing with sand for gravel
Need stone for - mixing with sand and gravel for cement mix

[Vorl]

I also think they nerfed collecting stone a bit too much.

[Mastercow]

引用自 Vorl：

I also think they nerfed collecting stone a bit too much.

Stone collection is fine as it is now. Once you start increasing your mining skill and getting better qualities picks, stone collection gets absurdly easy.

[Lerch Addams]

引用自 Theodore：

Except this isnt quickcrete you pick up at your local home depot. This is home made concrete where you need to make the sand, add the lime, blah blah all by yourself. While it could be done by hand, its also a video game.

Sure, i could take apart a car with a knife and allot of time, but the game makes me use a wrench or other suitable tool. I accept that.

Disassembling a car with a knife would be impossible.
Mixing concrete without a cement mixer is not impossible.

Concrete components wouldn't change whether you use a premix or mix the components yourself.

You still don't need a cement mixer to mix concrete.

I assure you that concrete can be mixed in a bucket or on a flat piece of plywood in small quantities if needed.

If we're claiming realizm then the only real advantage that a mixer provides is mixing slightly greater quantities than mixing by hand (using one similiar to the one illustrated in the game).

The other benefit is that a mixer will keep a mix from setting for a little bit longer while it's running.